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Do you think the ZR1 wing will retrofit?

 
Old 11-13-2017, 12:20 PM
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Default Do you think the ZR1 wing will retrofit?

New ZR1 wing, (both small and large) will they attach to other corvettes)

So I don't know much about the part yet as I don't know what its part number is, but it looks like that it is attached to a "lower wing" which looks like a mini Z51 spoiler.

The question is, how much further down does it go, and could one remove a Z51/Z06 spoiler and attach it.

Granted I don't need the down force, and the wing has to be ridiculously expensive, but I like the look of the smaller wing.
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I read somewhere that the larger wing is anchored to the sub-frame for stability... I would think that the smaller spoiler would simply bolt-on like the others. Nonetheless, I suspect that both could be retrofitted.
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I believe the wings (small and large) are integrated into the frame,
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Originally Posted by RipcordZ51 View Post
I believe the wings (small and large) are integrated into the frame,
They would have to have attachment points, one would think they are added. But maybe there are some supports that would be missing.

Now, those would be for actual down force, I'm wondering if you just wanted it as a cosmetic would it support.
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Supports or not, somebody will bolt on a shopping cart wing. Maybe something from JC Whitney, or Pep Boys? lol
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One of the videos discussed this. If it were just attached to the lid it would warp the lid with 1000 pounds of down force, so the wing is actually attached to the frame, which takes the brunt of the load. Seems to me that would make it more difficult to retrofit. Not that it couldn't be done, but it's much more than a bolt-on project and might take some serious surgery.

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Originally Posted by sTz View Post
I read somewhere that the larger wing is anchored to the sub-frame for stability... I would think that the smaller spoiler would simply bolt-on like the others. Nonetheless, I suspect that both could be retrofitted.
The larger wing is definitely tied into the frame (bumper support structure I think), and is definitely NOT just surface mounted as are all current C7 spoilers.

The question is -- did GM in any way mod the C7 frame's bumper support on 2019's to accept the ZR1 big wing mounts? I would *guess* not, but we don't know for certain at this point.
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I'm hoping they offer a kit with factory mounting options. Meaning if I take my bumper off, they can supply a mounting bracket that will work with a previous year C7.
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Old 11-13-2017, 08:23 PM
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Naw, the small one wouldn't look much bigger than a Z06 "Stage 3" spoiler with the wicker bill attached. We've already seen a few Z51's upgrade to that spoiler.

The high one I think would look a bit odd, but only because it's so exaggerated while the rest of the car wouldn't be,
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Can anyone say "Rice?"
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Would be interesting to see OP. Initially, they may require proof (vin number) to order any ZR1 specific parts from the dealer parts counter. They did this in 2014 when the Z28 came out. Luckily, I had a buddy with a Z28, so no problems getting a few much needed upgrades for my 1LE. For those looking for ZR1 parts, you better make some ZR1 friends quickly, just in case.
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Old 11-14-2017, 02:08 AM
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Curious about the front fitment more than the wing. The increased airflow would certainly be welcomed though on the fence about how the larger side vents would look on a base/Z51. Apparently they designed it to have better clearance too (think I heard this from Doug DM?) than adding a lower splitter which is a nice bonus.
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Originally Posted by Defiance
Curious about the front fitment more than the wing. The increased airflow would certainly be welcomed though on the fence about how the larger side vents would look on a base/Z51. Apparently they designed it to have better clearance too (think I heard this from Doug DM?) than adding a lower splitter which is a nice bonus.
Bumper won’t lineup without at least fenders. Also I think the center of the hood is different so that wouldn’t line up either. Sadly...
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Old 11-14-2017, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by rrsperry View Post
Supports or not, somebody will bolt on a shopping cart wing. Maybe something from JC Whitney, or Pep Boys? lol
I believe that youtuber Streetspeed717 installed a similair wing to his Z06 and then took it back off. Not sure where he got it from I think it was carbon fiber but I have no idea how secure it was, meaning, I doubt very seriously it was anchored to his frame. For the record I thought it looked pretty good on his car, though I don't like his wraps.
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Old 11-14-2017, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by LT1 Z51 View Post
Bumper won’t lineup without at least fenders. Also I think the center of the hood is different so that wouldn’t line up either. Sadly...


The way they tied the new nose into the new hood complicates things. It wasn't as obvious on the pics of the Sebring Orange ZR1, but this pic of the WGG ZR1 really shows how the hood contours were brought down into the new nose:

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The Camaro is probably surface mounted at three points.
The ZR1vertical wing bracket spacing and base mounting looks similar. They would be doing owners an injustice not having them switch out, especially with the big wings practical issues.
When I hear their limiting design specific simple variables I wonder.
Anyway, it makes sense the splitters and wings switch out, and starting bigger you wouldn't then use the smaller one on road tracks anyway.
The question at this point is the straight 1/4 and 210mph usage, switched out or not you're not going touring mode for that!
They are protecting their warranty. We've seen a car worn out on track.

How will it parsed out?

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Originally Posted by 4thC4at60 View Post
Can anyone say "Rice?"
Not all of us are waxers, some of us actually track the car
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it looks like a ricer. UGLY
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Originally Posted by 4thC4at60 View Post
Can anyone say "Rice?"
Originally Posted by Red Devil Z51 View Post
it looks like a ricer. UGLY
I agree I think it looks like something a teenager or early 20 person would put on a Honda Civic. I can not help but think of this photo every time I see it.

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Good Lord. A functional wing, even a large one, on a capable sports car made for the track, is not rice.

This is rice:



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