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Old 11-19-2017, 04:59 PM
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OK, I thought you might know something about it.
I don't think I have ever seen it driven around town.
In fact, I see very few C7s on the street.
Most of my driving is downtown, out by the airport, and W. Salem.
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Not sure which is faster, but would take the GT over the ZR1 in a heartbeat. Although, I would certainly miss the V8 rumble.
Old 11-20-2017, 08:50 PM
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Default Z06 vs Ford GT on the track

Originally Posted by Flyboy22
Who will be faster on a track? My money is on the Chevy
Depends on your definition of track car. To me a track car is not a race car. If you want to compare these cars race prepped and driven by pros as race cars then maybe the GT.

Non pro drivers on the same tires and were driven to the track by their owners--Z06/ZR1

'Cause so far I have never seen a GT at my track, Utah Motorsports Campus. If you don't show up.........how can you claim to your car to be the better track car?

These cars, in stock configuration, don't compete in the race same category that I know of . So if you want to compare them in non-race settings, set your parameters--stock except same tires (I think the Z and the GT have the same tires), driven to the track by their owners.

I declare in that setting the Z06 is the better track car. I am waiting for someone in a GT to show up and make me shut up

I look forward to a ZR1 showing up at our track too!!!!

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Old 11-20-2017, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Newton06
Who has ever even seen a GT on the track?

They are sitting in collectors' warehouses/garages.

This thread is irrelevant.
Well, there is that one little race called Le Mans.

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Old 11-20-2017, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Ruz
Well, there is that one little race called Le Mans.
Are we talking race cars where the sanctioning bodies set all sorts of rules to keep things "equal", or are we talking "track cars" that us mortals drive?

I make a distinction between "track car" and "race car", as noted in a prior post.

If we don't define what we are debating, it makes no more sense than deciding the outcome of a horse race based on stats.
Old 11-20-2017, 09:26 PM
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Not sure watch car would win but have you seen the Ford GT track mode in action? The coolest, meanest maneuver ever!
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Old 11-20-2017, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by desmophile
Are we talking race cars where the sanctioning bodies set all sorts of rules to keep things "equal", or are we talking "track cars" that us mortals drive?

I make a distinction between "track car" and "race car", as noted in a prior post.

If we don't define what we are debating, it makes no more sense than deciding the outcome of a horse race based on stats.
You make a valid point, but the whole topic really isn't a valid comparison...the two cars should never be compared.

Hopefully people are happy with their new ZR1's when they are available!

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Old 11-20-2017, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Maxie2U
Not sure who would win but have you seen the Ford GT track mode in action? The coolest, meanest maneuver ever!
On a high speed track the active aero and suspension lowering would be an advantage.

The track I drive at the average speed is less than 70mph, depending on the configuration. In that case the aero is not a huge issue.
Old 11-20-2017, 09:36 PM
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Ford GTs are sold out for years. Why would Ford risk destroying one for no reason. The exclusivity created more than enough demand. IMO you better hope junior steals pop's GT to see one being tracked to it limits.
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Originally Posted by Ruz
You make a valid point, but the whole topic really isn't a valid comparison...the two cars should never be compared.

Hopefully people are happy with their new ZR1's when they are available!
I agree that this is a low quality question to debate.

I believe that the guys driving Miatas at the track are having a good time doing what they do. Goodness knows I have had a hoot driving nimble low powered cars. Shifter karts are a blast. Its all good

I would still like to have a Ford GT and a ZR1 show up at the track so I can see what they can do
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Originally Posted by Kevova
Ford GTs are sold out for years. Why would Ford risk destroying one for no reason. The exclusivity created more than enough demand. IMO you better hope junior steals pop's GT to see one being tracked to it limits.
I have already seen one video on this site where a guy came across a new GT on the track.

The people that are owning these cars aren't the type that are just squeaking by with rent and worrying about keeping them pristine. Heck, one of the prereqs to have your order accepted was that you would actually drive the vehicle...and where else to have more fun than on a track?

I think the limiting factor on seeing one is just the sheer rarity of the car. I don't think they have even delivered more than 50 of them so far...
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Originally Posted by Kevova
Ford GTs are sold out for years. Why would Ford risk destroying one for no reason. The exclusivity created more than enough demand. IMO you better hope junior steals pop's GT to see one being tracked to it limits.
This is a problem with the Ford GTs.

But for those that own them, if they want me to believe they have a better "track car", they will have to come to the track and make me believe. Otherwise, they have a wonderful garage trophy.
Old 11-20-2017, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by redzone
What data are you basing this on? It's faster around a track than a Mclaren 720S. I'd say that's pretty farkin quick.
Source? I haven't seen any comparison between the two. The 720S destroys it in a straight line and can't imagine it would lose too much ground around the corners.
Old 11-21-2017, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by blue_bomber697
Source? I haven't seen any comparison between the two. The 720S destroys it in a straight line and can't imagine it would lose too much ground around the corners.
Source was Ford. Before you laugh that off, it's been several months since they said this so don't you think Mclaren would have raised bloody Hell were it not true? I forget the track, maybe COTA? Anyway, they said it was a full second faster than the Mclaren and up over two seconds on the F488.
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Originally Posted by sunsalem
THIS.
I don't know why there even is a comparison between the 2.
Very different cars, aimed at very different markets.
The Corvette is built on an assembly line.

The GT is not built by Ford. Google "Multimatic". Purpose built race car modified for street use. Cool, but not a mass produced vehicle.
Old 11-21-2017, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by blue_bomber697
Source? I haven't seen any comparison between the two. The 720S destroys it in a straight line and can't imagine it would lose too much ground around the corners.
In roadracing, "corners" is where it's at.

Originally Posted by vetluvr
The Corvette is built on an assembly line.

The GT is not built by Ford. Google "Multimatic". Purpose built race car modified for street use. Cool, but not a mass produced vehicle.
True.
Old 11-21-2017, 01:19 PM
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Less weight does more than increased power.

GT all day (given equal drivers). As driver skill increases, I see the gap only increasing.

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Old 11-21-2017, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by schaibaa
On paper the Ford should be much faster. 800lbs less and only down 100hp. The power to weight ratio is better on the ford, it has lower drag, more weight over the rear, active aero , DCT. I’m not sure how the ZR1 would keep up.
3560-3250= 800lbs? How about 310lbs
The ZR1 has 4.7lb/hp the gt has 5.02lb/hp.

The ZR1 also has a lot more tire under it.
So the ZR1 has a better power to weight ratio and better tire to weight ratio. It's going to be faster.

Originally Posted by redzone
What data are you basing this on? It's faster around a track than a Mclaren 720S. I'd say that's pretty farkin quick.
What's your data source? Ford's marketing department? If they beat a 720S, that's because it was on standard P Zeros running against a GT on Cup2's with the carbon fiber wheels, no A/C and no radio.

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Originally Posted by sunsalem
the ZR1 is a track version of the designed-for-the-street Z06.
The ZR1 is the track version of what was supposed to be the track version of the C7?
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Old 11-22-2017, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by NytmereZ
Who cares IMO, the Ford is a true Canadian exotic that is on another level.
As I said I would never take a Tesla over a vette, I would never take,a vette over any Ford got .
Fixed it for you. Multimatic designed and built the GT and they are based in Markham, Canada.


Not taking anything away from how cool the GT is though.


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