Juechter press comments on C7 ZR1 handling..
12-01-2017, 04:22 PM
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Is Tadge actually putting down the Z06 here? I personally do not see that in this particular comment. The team came our with the Z06 two years before the GS and had additional time to work on the handling of the GS. If the GS didn't handle better on the track, then the team wouldn't have done their job. Every new product should be more capable than the one before it.
^^^ This.....there are too many people on this Forum that overanalyze everything said.....SMH.
12-01-2017, 04:54 PM
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Don’t forget Tadge is in the business of selling cars none the less he should compare their latest offering (ZR1) to their closest competitors (Porsche 911 GT2 RS & Turbo S) not to their previous Top Dog (Z06). He is insulting previous buyers and it’s not right nor necessary. I would take everything Tadge says with a grain of salt. It’s an automotive philosophy of what have you done for me lately. Your 2015, 16, 17 and even 2018 Z06 that you had purchased doesn’t matter now. Time to buy the newest latest and greatest. They are only after your money.
12-01-2017, 05:03 PM
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Just wait until the mid-level ME variant comes out. Then everything that came before that will be crap. LOL.
People get way too caught up in parsing Tadge's words. As the top VLE, it amazes me how much of his time he gives the community. Most don't.
Sometimes I think people look for reasons to get their panties in a wad. You know who has control of whether you get offended? You do. Only a fool delegates that power to perfect strangers.
People get way too caught up in parsing Tadge's words. As the top VLE, it amazes me how much of his time he gives the community. Most don't.
Sometimes I think people look for reasons to get their panties in a wad. You know who has control of whether you get offended? You do. Only a fool delegates that power to perfect strangers.
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12-01-2017, 05:05 PM
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!?
Owe I thought he was trying to revive the C7. The last I heard 2017 ZO6's were littering the dealerships!
Lets F-ing talk about that!
Lets F-ing talk about that!
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12-01-2017, 06:47 PM
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Is Tadge actually putting down the Z06 here? I personally do not see that in this particular comment. The team came our with the Z06 two years before the GS and had additional time to work on the handling of the GS. If the GS didn't handle better on the track, then the team wouldn't have done their job. Every new product should be more capable than the one before it.
...here's a quote from the GM Authority article referenced in the "ZR1 Not Part of Original C7 Plan" thread...'“When we introduced the Z06, we left it all on the field. We couldn’t think of anything we could do to make this car better than it is. That was true at the time, but a couple years later, we started working on some ideas. What could we do to actually up our game even more?” said the Corvette chief."
It's the product evolution that makes being an enthusiast in these times so great...and so frustrating...because you can expect something better will come...
12-01-2017, 07:08 PM
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Is Tadge actually putting down the Z06 here? I personally do not see that in this particular comment. The team came our with the Z06 two years before the GS and had additional time to work on the handling of the GS. If the GS didn't handle better on the track, then the team wouldn't have done their job. Every new product should be more capable than the one before it.
Bill
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12-01-2017, 10:28 PM
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Hmmm...so far this week, I have heard that my Z06 is "sluggish" compared to the ZR1, not as track ready as a GS, (skittish handling) also that it will overheat and go into limp mode if driven on the track!
Maybe they should just discontinue production of the Z06! Sounds like they GM rushed this model and built a mistake!
Maybe they should just discontinue production of the Z06! Sounds like they GM rushed this model and built a mistake!
12-02-2017, 12:40 AM
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You guys need to chill. I don't even own a c7z, I was just pointing out that I thought his comment was strange.
If he felt the GS was so much better handling than c7z then why doesn't GM update the suspension tuning a la 01/02/03 vs 04 c5z (I believe the 04 z06 had updated suspension tuning vs 01/02/03 models),.... simple question...?
If he felt the GS was so much better handling than c7z then why doesn't GM update the suspension tuning a la 01/02/03 vs 04 c5z (I believe the 04 z06 had updated suspension tuning vs 01/02/03 models),.... simple question...?
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12-02-2017, 01:22 AM
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You guys need to chill. I don't even own a c7z, I was just pointing out that I thought his comment was strange.
If he felt the GS was so much better handling than c7z then why doesn't GM update the suspension tuning a la 01/02/03 vs 04 c5z (I believe the 04 z06 had updated suspension tuning vs 01/02/03 models),.... simple question...?
If he felt the GS was so much better handling than c7z then why doesn't GM update the suspension tuning a la 01/02/03 vs 04 c5z (I believe the 04 z06 had updated suspension tuning vs 01/02/03 models),.... simple question...?
here you go it’s essentially the zr1 suspension after this gm update release.
12-02-2017, 03:10 AM
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https://youtu.be/BLrLOxdMqG4
here you go it’s essentially the zr1 suspension after this gm update release.
here you go it’s essentially the zr1 suspension after this gm update release.
12-02-2017, 07:37 AM
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You mean to tell me the iPhone X is better than the iPhone 7+?? Get outta here!
12-02-2017, 08:27 AM
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Everything else being equal!?
The GS and ZR would be somewhat better than the ZO!
Easy Rip-Off!?
That's what the Ring shakes out!
Easy Rip-Off!?
That's what the Ring shakes out!
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12-02-2017, 09:36 AM
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There is a way to put things without insulting your previous buyes/products. We know the.... is better handling /faster/ etc with each new model as improvements are made. Build on it, don't tear it down
12-02-2017, 09:56 AM
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12-02-2017, 10:55 AM
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I think the Z06 was done in haste. They couldn't meet emissions targets(exact quote) for the power they wanted so they slapped a small supercharger on. The result was an amazing car that overheats when driven hard.
The ZR1 looks like it had a lot more development.
The ZR1 looks like it had a lot more development.
12-02-2017, 11:16 AM
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The C7 ZO7 sales cashed in on the C6 ZR1's legacy, popularity of automatic transmissions, and the car market. Screwed up and guys still bought the concept!
TIMES HAVE CHANGED and competition is driving (excuse the pun) the market again!
The ZO6 brand now forever tarnished with the ZR1 the hero, yet again!
TIMES HAVE CHANGED and competition is driving (excuse the pun) the market again!
The ZO6 brand now forever tarnished with the ZR1 the hero, yet again!
Last edited by johnglenntwo; 12-02-2017 at 11:54 AM.
12-02-2017, 12:10 PM
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https://youtu.be/BLrLOxdMqG4
here you go it’s essentially the zr1 suspension after this gm update release.
here you go it’s essentially the zr1 suspension after this gm update release.
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