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Old 12-01-2017, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Kappa
If you read the article, 1st lap was on cold tires, 2nd lap was hot lap, 3rd was cooldown.

I thought it was moving the f*ck out on the 2nd lap. Maybe its just me.
It must be difficult to start/stop a stopwatch.
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Originally Posted by warhawkmcdaniel
It must be difficult to start/stop a stopwatch.
So what exactly are you trying to say?
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Originally Posted by Kappa
So what exactly are you trying to say?
A lap time tells all.
Old 12-01-2017, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by warhawkmcdaniel
A lap time tells all.
It will tell once a production version gets into a test driver's hands but from a passenger ride along? We aren't seeing much.

As far as lap times go, all we know right now is that a ZR1 ZTK is 2.5 seconds quicker than the Z06 Z07 at whatever configuration GM runs at VIR. If that's the Full Course, that time gap is ridiculous. If it's the Grand Course Car and Driver uses, it's still insane.

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Old 12-01-2017, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Kappa
So what exactly are you trying to say?
he's losing the rear end on almost every turn.

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Old 12-01-2017, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BrunoTheMellow
he's losing the rear end on almost every turn.


We must not be watching the same video.

I see him get loose at 0:58. From the 2nd lap on the car is hooked up. Please give me a timestamp so I can see what you're seeing.

At 2:28, 2:35 and 2:45, he goes WOT in 3rd with no sideslip or audible ignition cut from PTM.

To quote Autoblog:
Even more goes to the carbon ceramic brakes, which are simply ferocious. They're similar to the Z06's Brembos, but with extra heat-treatment and a high-temperature pad compound. But for every stab of the brakes, Tung hammers on the gas just as quickly. We blast for a second or so up a very short straight at the top of the Balcony before hauling down again and heading downhill. The ability to call up positive and negative Gs like this with just a dance on the pedals is mightily impressive. If you think an extra 105 hp and 65 lb-ft would turn the C7 Z06 into an unredeemable mess, think again. The ZR1 can put down the power, and it corners just like an angrier Z06.

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Old 12-01-2017, 08:43 PM
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What happened at the beginning where it seemed to have issues shifting? Just curious
Old 12-01-2017, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by keagan
Is that C6 ZR1 territory without really pushing it?
Randy ran a :25.7 in the Z06. And that's Randy alone in the car and we know Randy is fast.
I wouldn't doubt one bit this car is 2-3 seconds faster than the Z06.
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Old 12-01-2017, 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Snorman
Randy ran a :25.7 in the Z06. And that's Randy alone in the car and we know Randy is fast.
I wouldn't doubt one bit this car is 2-3 seconds faster than the Z06.
S.
would you say in your opinion that the price tag justifies 2-3 sec?
Old 12-02-2017, 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by charles7970
would you say in your opinion that the price tag justifies 2-3 sec?
Sure. I think the ZR1 brings more acceleration, grip and potential to the table. In the end you're still getting a helluva' bargain at ~$120k.
If you're not going to track the heck out of the car? Eh...maybe not. But I'm not one to tell people how to spend their money or use their car.
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Old 12-02-2017, 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Kappa


We must not be watching the same video.

I see him get loose at 0:58. From the 2nd lap on the car is hooked up. Please give me a timestamp so I can see what you're seeing.

At 2:28, 2:35 and 2:45, he goes WOT in 3rd with no sideslip or audible ignition cut from PTM.

To quote Autoblog:
He's also not on the gas hard/early in many turns. Even the time stamps you give, he's not WOT until he's basically out of the turn completely. For example, the 2:28 youre citing: He isn't WOT until the steering angle is down to a mere 16 degrees (and about to be straight)


The car has a ton of power- it can use more rubber. Unless you can go WOT through the whole turn, you're traction limited and wider tires can help


Originally Posted by charles7970
would you say in your opinion that the price tag justifies 2-3 sec?
2-3 seconds on a track like that is a lot. And we're not talking 2-3 seconds off a miata's lap time. Seconds get more exponentially expensive, especially when they come with a warranty.

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Old 12-02-2017, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Snorman
Randy ran a :25.7 in the Z06. And that's Randy alone in the car and we know Randy is fast.
I wouldn't doubt one bit this car is 2-3 seconds faster than the Z06.
S.
Ahh I see, it might end up splitting the 918 and the ACR with a good run Hoping I'm being a bit conservative with that guess.
Old 12-02-2017, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by village idiot
we're we watching the same video?
Cold tires!
Old 12-02-2017, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Snorman
Randy ran a :25.7 in the Z06. And that's Randy alone in the car and we know Randy is fast.
I wouldn't doubt one bit this car is 2-3 seconds faster than the Z06.
S.
Easily!
Old 12-02-2017, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by village idiot
He's also not on the gas hard/early in many turns. Even the time stamps you give, he's not WOT until he's basically out of the turn completely. For example, the 2:28 youre citing: He isn't WOT until the steering angle is down to a mere 16 degrees (and about to be straight)


The car has a ton of power- it can use more rubber. Unless you can go WOT through the whole turn, you're traction limited and wider tires can help




2-3 seconds on a track like that is a lot. And we're not talking 2-3 seconds off a miata's lap time. Seconds get more exponentially expensive, especially when they come with a warranty.
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Old 12-02-2017, 10:16 AM
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The G meter was useless in that car. Obviously it was configured for the other Vettes. Very apparent the car is faster than it's predecessors.
Old 12-02-2017, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Snorman
The guy just ran a ~:29 with a passenger letting off 200 yards from start/finish, lol.
S.

C'mon Sean...you KNOW the car sucks

I love the comment about the transmission downshifting (during the warm up lap) in the middle of a corner. Oh well. C7 Forum has been this way for 4+ years now, I guess it's too much to hope for change.

Lord, deliver us from the CF "experts".

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Old 12-02-2017, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Chicago1
What happened at the beginning where it seemed to have issues shifting? Just curious
Cold tires. No shifting issues, the tires broke loose.
Old 12-02-2017, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Kappa
It will tell once a production version gets into a test driver's hands but from a passenger ride along? We aren't seeing much.

As far as lap times go, all we know right now is that a ZR1 ZTK is 2.5 seconds quicker than the Z06 Z07 at whatever configuration GM runs at VIR. If that's the Full Course, that time gap is ridiculous. If it's the Grand Course Car and Driver uses, it's still insane.
It's the Full Course, if I'm not mistaken. 2.5 seconds on the Full Course would translate into 3.5 seconds (possibly more) I would guess on the Grand Course.
I would also guess that GM avoids the Grand Course configuration out of deference to C&D. Jim Mero was at the 2015 LL and did run the Grand Course in a C7 Z06 and did a 2:41:32!!!! Note that Mero is in a manual car.

The time that C&D lists for the C7 Z06 is THEIR time, not Mero's. FWI, C&D's time for the C7Z06 is 2:44:6 (the same manual car that Mero used)

Here it is:


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Old 12-02-2017, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by warhawkmcdaniel
A lap time tells all.
Which the driver was obviously NOT trying to do.


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