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Old Yesterday, 08:39 PM   #81
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drive a 1st gen NSX or F355. Both are subjectively more satisfying to drive than a current Z06 in many ways and yet they would get smoked by the Z06 in any quantitative metrics of performance.
Very interesting you bring up those two, I've owned both actually. I agree though, both require an "understanding". Especially in todays world where those cars are grossly underpowered and not straightline fast. The NSX, by those who truly understand the car, is second to almost none...it's an icon for so many reasons. That car isn't about numbers, it's about what Honda presented to you in terms of engineering, purity, reliability, ingress/egress, visibility...it was SUCH a good car and inspired Mclaren in many ways. We even see a "Senna" Edition 720 coming and this STILL goes to NSX in some ways.

In America though...they hated the NSX...they all want to drag race...and if they want to track the car, they still want to be able to drag race....hence, ZR1. The hood shaker track car with a droptop.

I can't say I was a huge fan of the 355 chassis, but the engine clearly was a beauty. Through that tubi exhaust . I personally wouldn't own one again though.
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As a Z06 owner that likes to go to the track, I would offer this view.
If you want to make a ZRI, make it the best track car. No convertible, fix any cooling issues vs Z06, strip the interior and upgrade the suspension in any way you could. At the same time develop some solutions for current/future Z06 owners to solve cooling problems, that should have never been a problem for those that track their cars, A8 or M7. Make the ZR1 the equivalent of the Viper, a good track weapon but stupid on the street.
That shouldn't have been much more expensive than what they have done.
I won't spring for the ZR1. I will upgrade my cooling a little, tune my suspension-DSC, and get some 18" Forgelines and run slicks. I don't need efficiency at 180MPH. The small wing on the ZR1 is not going to help me in 60MPH corners.
I will have spent less than trading in.
And if a ZR1 driver ever takes his car to our track here in SLC, we will see who made the better track car choice.
What are your lap times at Miller?
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Actually I think the new ZR1 is where it should be, the halo car that does everything really well maybe the marketing should reflect that instead of track rat. Nothing wrong with a track rat, I'm a track rat I think the C7 Z06 is the one with the identity crisis to where it fits in. I was really disappointed when it went to the supercharged format instead of big NA power. The Z06 IMO should be the one with the big aero package and light weight and the delete check box. Like I have mentioned just sold my Porsche turbo so I've have been on here lately wanting to get back into a Corvette for a DD. I'll probably end up with a head and cam c6z06, as I really miss having my C5 z06 on the street. I think a c7 GS with a Katech 427 would be the ticket also. Maybe GM should build it and call it a GSRS. Hell I'd buy one.
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I'd buy one, too....
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