When Titans Collide: The GT2 RS vs the 2019 ZR1
#121
Le Mans Master
That "Death Trap!" ;)
Well simply look at the last generation of both cars. The C6 ZR1 obviously depreciated pretty good. The 997 GT2RS when new cost 245k and looking for one now you cannot fine one for anywhere near that price. They all went up in value like many other 911's.
The GT2RS is an investment and the ZR1 is a depreciating asset.
The GT2RS is an investment and the ZR1 is a depreciating asset.
Last edited by johnglenntwo; 12-15-2017 at 04:02 AM.
#123
Team Owner
hahaha, yeah, you're right, nobody wants an old car, I guess I should just junk my Grand National.
#124
Le Mans Master
The 997 GT2 RS is Now just an expensive musium piece! ;)
Given enough Boost, there will always be room for a lower cost fuller butt dust magnet GN (add that easy lighter straight six engine compartment Big *** Turbo room)!
The 997 GT2 RS platform has no such utility! It's just fraught with danger.
Last edited by johnglenntwo; 12-16-2017 at 09:50 AM.
#126
Le Mans Master
Demon!? ;)
Some of us are more sophisticated than that! Pike's Peak - BE THERE!
And parse this:
And parse this:
- Same smog certifications
- Total price
- Roll bar
- Fire extinguisher
- (Callaway SC?)
- Same streetability
Last edited by johnglenntwo; 12-16-2017 at 02:35 PM.
#127
Drifting
#128
Scraping the splitter.
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#129
Team Owner
https://youtu.be/-7rShGJvmE4
Given enough Boost, there will always be room for a lower cost fuller butt dust magnet GN (add that easy lighter straight six engine compartment Big *** Turbo room)!
The 997 GT2 RS platform has no such utility! It's just fraught with danger.
Given enough Boost, there will always be room for a lower cost fuller butt dust magnet GN (add that easy lighter straight six engine compartment Big *** Turbo room)!
The 997 GT2 RS platform has no such utility! It's just fraught with danger.
#130
Melting Slicks
Originally Posted by themonk
You can easily add 150 bhp to any turbo Porsche without taking up any more room......a tune and meth kit will see to that.
#131
Le Mans Master
Oh yeah, guess I was thinking Supra! ;)
But, that's not what we are seeing at The Ring these days! They aren't even laying down all its power until the final straight. They micro managed every aspect of that run, and yes Electronically. The shocks and suspension are keeping it flat in all four corners individually. Add AWSteering, ABS brakes, and dynamic engine mounts; It is all controlled like no other for all those Porschephiles, and their money!
On the straights it's using HP momentum over torque twist exclusively.
Into curves its using a stability corner braking.
Most significantly they have the eLSD locking the wheels on curve exiting.
They've conquered it, but only in a very emphatic deliberate way!
Just sneaking up the turbo boost in the 997 GT2 RS is even more suicide for its purpose!
Last edited by johnglenntwo; 12-18-2017 at 12:34 AM.
#132
Le Mans Master
#133
Team Owner
an air cooled '97 turbo is worth more than a new ZR1 and there's a reason for that. As much as I love the C7 it is no where near in the same class as a 911 and for that I'm glad for if they were I wouldn't be able to afford a new one.
#135
Banned Scam/Spammer
#137
Le Mans Master
Sure! He also has essentially put his opinion above GM's Mero about The Ring!? ;)
Amazing how guys (and/or Trolls!) set themselves up against written facts and try to blame it on me!
A break Please!?
A break Please!?
Last edited by johnglenntwo; 12-17-2017 at 10:31 AM.
#139
Le Mans Master
Absolutely! The internet is an awesome Tool! ;)
I knew it because I Know The 911. Those tall tweaked (especially rear) tires couldn't be getting through those curves all by themselves!
And my aforementioned relative Grand National concepts still essentially work! I saw one of those things at a Cars and Coffee recently, but, sorry I actually don't stare at Old cars!
And
I've always thought if they did Turbos instead of cylinders the Vette would be Way ahead!
Last edited by johnglenntwo; 12-18-2017 at 09:14 AM.
#140
^^^^^^^
Conversely MANY thought "push rods" "V8 architecture" and classic "bore/stroke" ratios would have been obsolete and obliterated years ago. And here we are discussing how close track-worthy the 120K ZR1 is to the "next level" (in price) 340K+ titanium pipes RS...
Maybe S/C will prove to be the "best" thing for Corvette as well..
I've always thought if they did Turbos instead of cylinders the Vette would be Way ahead!
Maybe S/C will prove to be the "best" thing for Corvette as well..