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Old 12-24-2017, 07:50 PM
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Default 2.50s short course should be good for simple long course like I had! ;)

Originally Posted by Achmed
lol it's a wash because the extra 105 hp comes with 36 lbs of weight and both cars use the same tires.

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These are the latest times claimed by GM for the z06. They also claimed the zr1 is 2.5 seconds faster than the zr1 at the shorter full course, implying about 1:53.5

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but production corvette weight distribution is based on the assumption that the an extra Jim Mero weight man is in the driver seat and passenger seat must be empty. Therefore advantage = Mero over Gavin
Skank talked to Milner at Mazda. Milner said, "Any of the C7R drivers are faster than Mero"!
They now have significant down force - more like they're used to!
No excuses so maybe they'll get it on!

BUT lets calculate that for Giggles:
1:53.5/X = 1:57.03/7:01.3
X=6:48.6; beats Performante

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Originally Posted by johnglenntwo
Skank talked to Milner at Mazda. Milner said, "Any of the C7R drivers are faster than Mero"!
They now have significant down force - more like they're used to!
No excuses so maybe they'll get it on!
You're absolutely right Johnglenntwo !!! I asked Tommy Milner point blank if he could beat Mero around Laguna Seca. And he said "yes for sure". The question is, which one of the six drivers would be fastest at the Nordshliefe ?? Porsche has a few drivers that have a lot of time around the ring. I actually think Antonio Garcia might be the fastest of the four main drivers and he certainly is probably the lightest. But he may not have any time on the ring !

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Old 12-24-2017, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by meadowz06
There is NO way the Z06 beats the ZR1 on ANY track of any kind! Period.
Ever been on a track where the fastest car has several hundred horsepower less than the hot dog car? Happens all the time. That is why handling is so important.

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Originally Posted by Bill Dearborn
Ever been on a track where the fastest car has several hundred horsepower less than the hot dog car? Happens all the time. That is why handling is so important.

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may be the grand sport should be taking all the corvette lap records lol
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Originally Posted by skank
You're absolutely right Johnglenntwo !!! I asked Tommy Milner point blank if he could beat Mero around Laguna Seca. And he said "yes for sure". The question is, which one of the six drivers would be fastest at the Nordshliefe ?? Porsche has a few drivers that have a lot of time around the ring. I actually think Antonio Garcia might be the fastest of the four main drivers and he certainly is probably the lightest. But he may not have any time on the ring !
Milner beat Randy Pobst in a z06 around road atlanta while talking the whole time to the camera fwiw
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Originally Posted by Achmed
Milner beat Randy Pobst in a z06 around road atlanta while talking the whole time to the camera fwiw
That's right. I remember that video!!
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https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...gring-lap-time

With Porsche test driver Lars Kern and factory racing driver Nick Tandy taking turns on the track, the car was setting times below 6:50 almost immediately. In the end it was Kern who set the fastest time.
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Originally Posted by 19th_hole
https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...gring-lap-time

With Porsche test driver Lars Kern and factory racing driver Nick Tandy taking turns on the track, the car was setting times below 6:50 almost immediately. In the end it was Kern who set the fastest time.
In theory Tandy should be able to run a faster lap than a development engineer test driver. But these test drivers are getting real fast these days.
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Originally Posted by skank
In theory Tandy should be able to run a faster lap than a development engineer test driver. But these test drivers are getting real fast these days.
Lars Kern does also race professionally, and has experience endurance racing at the Ring.
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Default I thought you/he mentioned this Skank! Here it is -

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In theory Tandy should be able to run a faster lap than a development engineer test driver. But these test drivers are getting real fast these days.
http://www.superchevy.com/events/vem...t-nurburgring/

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While it's impressive that Chevrolet has been able to claim some records using in-house amateur drivers, it would be interesting to see how much time they have left on the table by throwing some pros into the seat. Antonio Garcia is probably the fastest at Corvette racing, right now.

Porsche used Mark Weber, I think, on that epic Nurburgring GT2 lap, and with F1 and WEC credentials you would have to say that Porsche was treating this pretty seriously.
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Originally Posted by skank
You know Motor Trend will get a GT2 RS and the ZR1 at Laguna Seca with Randy Pobst driving both. Then we will see where the ZR1 stands in the grand scheme of things. After all, they have a lot of data on the ZR1 after 3 days of testing last spring
What are the chances that you'll be there again to watch if/when this happens? How I'd love to have a peek at the track action that day!

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Old 12-25-2017, 02:16 PM
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Just checked the video, and I'm wrong about Weber. Thought I had read that somewhere, but Porsche has a strong lineup of drivers, so they probably have several people who could match or beat this.
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Originally Posted by Les
What are the chances that you'll be there again to watch if/when this happens? How I'd love to have a peek at the track action that day!
Oh I'll be there if they show up. Like the previous times that I've attended the Motor Trend tests, they will never allow me to time their laps while watching it with them. I would have to leave and time it from a different location than the start finish line. Of course I still wouldn't broadcast the times to the forum here out of respect for their storyline. But I certainly could give our forum a thumbs up if our ZR1 were to blitz the 911.

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Originally Posted by skank
Oh I'll be there if they show up. Like the previous times that I've attended the Motor Trend tests, they will never allow me to time their laps while watching it with them. I would have to leave and time it from a different location than the start finish line. Of course I still wouldn't broadcast the times to the forum here out of respect for their storyline. But I certainly could give our forum a thumbs up if our ZR1 were to blitz the 911.
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Originally Posted by skank
Oh I'll be there if they show up. Like the previous times that I've attended the Motor Trend tests, they will never allow me to time their laps while watching it with them. I would have to leave and time it from a different location than the start finish line. Of course I still wouldn't broadcast the times to the forum here out of respect for their storyline. But I certainly could give our forum a thumbs up if our ZR1 were to blitz the 911.
Skank,
I was hanging out with a couple of Ford GT owners this weeeknd and they claim that the "rumor" is Randy ran Laguna Seca in the New Ford GT just recently and the story will be in Motor Trend in a month or so. Did you happen to see or hear of such a thing happening?

Although the NFGT is pretty much unattainable for most of us due to availability and cost, it will be interesting to see how this car does at Laguna Seca compared to the ZR1 and the ACR-E.

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Originally Posted by skank
You're absolutely right Johnglenntwo !!! I asked Tommy Milner point blank if he could beat Mero around Laguna Seca. And he said "yes for sure". The question is, which one of the six drivers would be fastest at the Nordshliefe ?? Porsche has a few drivers that have a lot of time around the ring. I actually think Antonio Garcia might be the fastest of the four main drivers and he certainly is probably the lightest. But he may not have any time on the ring !
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Originally Posted by skank
Oh I'll be there if they show up. Like the previous times that I've attended the Motor Trend tests, they will never allow me to time their laps while watching it with them. I would have to leave and time it from a different location than the start finish line. Of course I still wouldn't broadcast the times to the forum here out of respect for their storyline. But I certainly could give our forum a thumbs up if our ZR1 were to blitz the 911.
Skank and some kind of political involvement!? I thought he may have tweaked his original story! Either that or I remembered it right, wrongfully!?
When does Mero post times at Laguna Seca!http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/laguna-seca-post-1988

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Old 12-25-2017, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Les
What are the chances that you'll be there again to watch if/when this happens? How I'd love to have a peek at the track action that day!
lets go!! you have a spare bedroom for me?
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Originally Posted by Boba Fett
lets go!! you have a spare bedroom for me?
Man, if you made the trip I could probably set you up. My dad's house (he passed away in '09 but my stepmom still lives there) is about 3 miles from the front entry at Laguna Seca. The wife and I stay there on race weekends and it's a sweet set up. I suspect I could convince her to let you use the spare bedroom.


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