Track records will fall with the ZR1
02-06-2018, 11:35 AM
#101
Race Director
Speculation is 772. Ford only said, 700+. Supercharged 5.2 In comparison, my '14 GT500 had 748rwhp (850ish crank)from the 5.8 with a pulley, off-road X and tune. 772 at crank from a 5.2 is going to be pushing it longevity wise. The 32v DOHC engines make so much more power for the size. If our 6.2was 32v DOHC, probably be 600 crank NA, 850 crank supercharged. That's only thing Ford does better than Chevy still. Ditch the pushrods already.
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02-06-2018, 08:37 PM
#102
Le Mans Master
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02-06-2018, 09:19 PM
#103
Instructor
Heck yea I totally agree!!
Yesterday, in the Ask Tadge section, Jim Mero responded to the Question of the Week. In it he mentioned that with the new calibration setting upgrade the ZO6/Z07 did a 2:39.77 at the VIR Grand Course. That breaks the Viper ACR record driven by Chris Winkler. Prior to that, Mero had the VIR record at 2:41.32 then the new Viper ACR broke that with a 2:40.02. Now Tadge has said that this new ZR1 is 2.5 seconds faster than Mero's time of 2:41.32 = 2:38.82. WOW !!! Faster than the ACR by 1.2 seconds. This ZR1 is going to kill the Laguna Seca record held by the ACR.
02-06-2018, 09:59 PM
#104
Clearly I am doing this youtube thing wrong.
02-07-2018, 02:36 AM
#105
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
I am a youtuber and I made a video on the ZR1 and I was so happy to hear how well the ZR1 performed on the VIR track because I have been on that track before. I created a YouTube video on being on that track. My channel name is Cgarnerspeed252 please feel free to check it out and subscribe.
Last edited by skank; 02-07-2018 at 03:08 AM.
02-07-2018, 05:24 AM
#106
Le Mans Master
Wrongo! ;)
Virginia International Raceway Grand East Course (post 01/2014)
http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/virgin...e-post-01-2014
King ZR1 posted a jaw-dropping 2.37.3 time — over a second under the 2.38.6 lap record announced by Ford just last week.
Ford’s GT time, in turn, had bested the Dodge Viper ACR’s 2.40.0 time — one of 13 American race track lap records the Snake set in 2015 before the car was retired from production last year.
Chevy also announced this week that Mero lowered the Z06’s VIR best with a 2:39.77 lap.
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/bus...way/109986000/
Last edited by johnglenntwo; 02-07-2018 at 07:12 AM.
02-07-2018, 08:21 AM
#107
Melting Slicks
Virginia International Raceway Grand East Course (post 01/2014)
http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/virgin...e-post-01-2014
02-07-2018, 09:29 AM
#108
Le Mans Master
Yes, this guy brought up an old Skank post! ;)
I am a youtuber and I made a video on the ZR1 and I was so happy to hear how well the ZR1 performed on the VIR track because I have been on that track before. I created a YouTube video on being on that track. My channel name is Cgarnerspeed252 please feel free to check it out and subscribe.
And Thanks!
Last edited by johnglenntwo; 02-07-2018 at 08:07 PM.
02-22-2018, 10:13 AM
#110
Skank talked to Milner at Mazda. Milner said, "Any of the C7R drivers are faster than Mero"!
They now have significant down force - more like they're used to!
No excuses so maybe they'll get it on!
BUT lets calculate that for Giggles:
1:53.5/X = 1:57.03/7:01.3
X=6:48.6; beats Performante
They now have significant down force - more like they're used to!
No excuses so maybe they'll get it on!
BUT lets calculate that for Giggles:
1:53.5/X = 1:57.03/7:01.3
X=6:48.6; beats Performante
02-22-2018, 10:55 AM
#111
Le Mans Master
I recall his speaking of The Nurburgring directly then!
Also, you might want to recalculate that with the ZR1's actual time on the Grand now! But, within 10s of the GT2 RS's time still works for me without a Callaway -200lb ZR1!
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2:37.25(157.25s)/X = 2:40.02(160.02s)/7:01.3(421.3s)
X=6:54
Last edited by johnglenntwo; 03-01-2018 at 09:48 PM.
02-22-2018, 01:13 PM
#112
I'm not a big fan of all the ring time speculation but the difference in ZR1 speeds on the straights at VIR over the Z06 was telling. There will be a lot of time made up in the high speed sections.
02-22-2018, 01:34 PM
#113
Le Mans Master
Good thought!
Oh well, maybe that GM/Callaway ZR1!
Last edited by johnglenntwo; 02-28-2018 at 12:39 AM.
02-22-2018, 04:09 PM
#114
On a wide open track like the Ring where horsepower and downforce are the name of the game, the ZR1 should acquit itself well. I'm still thinking it will eke out a sub-7min time.
Last edited by Kappa; 02-22-2018 at 04:16 PM.
02-22-2018, 05:08 PM
#115
Le Mans Master
Probably!
Agreed, the ZR1 was accelerating through 150mph like a freight train where the Z06 was clearly starting to hit a wall. Not only that, but its speed through and exiting the Esses was a good 5-6mph faster than the Z06.
On a wide open track like the Ring where horsepower and downforce are the name of the game, the ZR1 should acquit itself well. I'm still thinking it will eke out a sub-7min time.
On a wide open track like the Ring where horsepower and downforce are the name of the game, the ZR1 should acquit itself well. I'm still thinking it will eke out a sub-7min time.
If they do indeed run they will probably play it safe checking up on the throttle (Tadge's stated 7' Goal).
Last edited by johnglenntwo; 02-27-2018 at 05:55 AM.
02-22-2018, 05:17 PM
#116
The Ferrari 599XX weighs about the same the as the ZR1 and turned a sub 7 lap. Granted, it makes more downforce than the ZR1 and probably runs more aggressive tires but, it has been done.
02-22-2018, 05:19 PM
#117
Le Mans Master
Slicks!
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...i-599xx-review
Scary trying to surpass this thing!
Last edited by johnglenntwo; 02-22-2018 at 05:27 PM.
02-22-2018, 05:29 PM
#118
A million dollar race car. About 3,350lb with variable up to almost 1,400lb of DF!
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...i-599xx-review
Scary trying to surpass this thing!
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...i-599xx-review
Scary trying to surpass this thing!
Scary? No. I really don't see what the big deal is.
02-22-2018, 05:42 PM
#119
Le Mans Master
Right! ;)
Unless I'm gathering correctly about the weight issue, and safety!? THAT INTANGIBLE CAPABLE SOFTWARE!?
Last edited by johnglenntwo; 03-01-2018 at 09:54 PM.
02-22-2018, 11:16 PM
#120
Doing the math
From the vir zr1 time vs the pre-updating calibration z06 (15 z06 vir time), the zr1 gains 1 second every 40 seconds. So that's about 11 seconds or almost 11 seconds over the ring. Rumour was z06 got under 7:10 at the Ring with Mero so zr1 should be some seconds below 7.