MOTOR TREND February 2018
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Melting Slicks
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MOTOR TREND February 2018
I'm sure some of you guys have seen the ZR1 Convertible in this month's issue of MT. Here's a little snippet I thought was interesting coming from a GM guy."The ZR1 shares then bones of the Z06 but adds more power more refinement ,a giant wing,and a "PLEDGE THAT IT'S FOR EVERYONE" I may be wrong but I take that to mean ANYONE CAN BUY ONE THAT WANTS ONE, that the price will /would not be really high. Well $150,000 and maybe more is HIGH and not affordable for lots of Corvette buyers. Yes I know it's special and that's their business but please GM DON'T BS us. If the ME is that much I'm out
Walter Raulerson
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I could be wrong but i think they mean that it's a supercar that is affordable compared to high end exotics. Of course not everyone can afford a 150k car, hell a lot of people can't afford a 50k car, which is why the corvette itself in "base" form is somewhat exclusive.
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Melting Slicks
Wow, I surely hope that the ME is $150,000 and up so that I don't see one every time I turn around. I am hoping for a front engine C8 that is basically an evolution of the C7, plus a separate new high-end ME line that competes with the exotics. Even if an ME is $150,000, that's still $100,000+ less than the cars it's competing with.
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I'm sure some of you guys have seen the ZR1 Convertible in this month's issue of MT. Here's a little snippet I thought was interesting coming from a GM guy."The ZR1 shares then bones of the Z06 but adds more power more refinement ,a giant wing,and a "PLEDGE THAT IT'S FOR EVERYONE" I may be wrong but I take that to mean ANYONE CAN BUY ONE THAT WANTS ONE, that the price will /would not be really high. Well $150,000 and maybe more is HIGH and not affordable for lots of Corvette buyers. Yes I know it's special and that's their business but please GM DON'T BS us. If the ME is that much I'm out
Walter Raulerson
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Sorry. It’s price has been announced starting at $120K (with more than a few already saying theirs will exceed $150K as they equip it); and second, it production has already been announced as being 200 or less per month (with the production cycle for 2019 current being “approximately” 13 months long (the word approximately comes from GM in a document to its dealers who have 1 or more ZR1 allocations.
#5
Google doesn't help...there is a million definitions out there.
Is it price?
Is it the use of carbon fiber?
What exactly?
Don't tell me it's limited production...there is nothing "super" about that.
If measured in performance, the Z06 and the now dead Viper certainly qualify.
Both destroy 90% of the Euro "Supercars" around a track on a regular basis.
In a straight line, they are second only to a few, and most are AWDs.
FWIW and IMO, performance is the primary distinction.
"Supercars" should be able to outperform ordinary cars by a considerable amount.
GM already has a "supercar," the ZR1 is simply a variant.
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desmophile (01-01-2018)
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I think this whole thing about what is and is not a Supercar is a little ridiculous.
Google doesn't help...there is a million definitions out there.
Is it price?
Is it the use of carbon fiber?
What exactly?
Don't tell me it's limited production...there is nothing "super" about that.
If measured in performance, the Z06 and the now dead Viper certainly qualify.
Both destroy 90% of the Euro "Supercars" around a track on a regular basis.
In a straight line, they are second only to a few, and most are AWDs.
FWIW and IMO, performance is the primary distinction.
"Supercars" should be able to outperform ordinary cars by a considerable amount.
GM already has a "supercar," the ZR1 is simply a variant.
Google doesn't help...there is a million definitions out there.
Is it price?
Is it the use of carbon fiber?
What exactly?
Don't tell me it's limited production...there is nothing "super" about that.
If measured in performance, the Z06 and the now dead Viper certainly qualify.
Both destroy 90% of the Euro "Supercars" around a track on a regular basis.
In a straight line, they are second only to a few, and most are AWDs.
FWIW and IMO, performance is the primary distinction.
"Supercars" should be able to outperform ordinary cars by a considerable amount.
GM already has a "supercar," the ZR1 is simply a variant.
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OK, are you saying it's primarily price?
#8
Team Owner
People buy them and hold them for few months and sell them. Mainly because of money reasons!
1200 or more is a house payment for most. A Z06 costs 2-4 times the average Joes car!
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Le Mans Master
Soon as you drive it off the lot, you mind as throw 20k out the window. Cause these will be had for under 100k in no time. Just look at that C7 turd
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Wow, I surely hope that the ME is $150,000 and up so that I don't see one every time I turn around. I am hoping for a front engine C8 that is basically an evolution of the C7, plus a separate new high-end ME line that competes with the exotics. Even if an ME is $150,000, that's still $100,000+ less than the cars it's competing with.
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ZR1 Cost
I'm sure some of you guys have seen the ZR1 Convertible in this month's issue of MT. Here's a little snippet I thought was interesting coming from a GM guy."The ZR1 shares then bones of the Z06 but adds more power more refinement ,a giant wing,and a "PLEDGE THAT IT'S FOR EVERYONE" I may be wrong but I take that to mean ANYONE CAN BUY ONE THAT WANTS ONE, that the price will /would not be really high. Well $150,000 and maybe more is HIGH and not affordable for lots of Corvette buyers. Yes I know it's special and that's their business but please GM DON'T BS us. If the ME is that much I'm out
Walter Raulerson
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Racer
I think it's going to be fairly exclusive, but I also think that those that can afford it (and purchase one) will want the 2020 mid-engine, and a used C7 ZR1 will be affordable for mortals. Ok, maybe that's just wishful thinking.
In the meantime, I'm working my *** off to be able to afford one (after I get the wife a new house somewhere warmer than Illinois). Happy wife, happy life.
In the meantime, I'm working my *** off to be able to afford one (after I get the wife a new house somewhere warmer than Illinois). Happy wife, happy life.
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Purchase
I think it's going to be fairly exclusive, but I also think that those that can afford it (and purchase one) will want the 2020 mid-engine, and a used C7 ZR1 will be affordable for mortals. Ok, maybe that's just wishful thinking.
In the meantime, I'm working my *** off to be able to afford one (after I get the wife a new house somewhere warmer than Illinois). Happy wife, happy life.
In the meantime, I'm working my *** off to be able to afford one (after I get the wife a new house somewhere warmer than Illinois). Happy wife, happy life.
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Racer
I think this whole thing about what is and is not a Supercar is a little ridiculous.
Google doesn't help...there is a million definitions out there.
Is it price?
Is it the use of carbon fiber?
What exactly?
Don't tell me it's limited production...there is nothing "super" about that.
If measured in performance, the Z06 and the now dead Viper certainly qualify.
Both destroy 90% of the Euro "Supercars" around a track on a regular basis.
In a straight line, they are second only to a few, and most are AWDs.
FWIW and IMO, performance is the primary distinction.
"Supercars" should be able to outperform ordinary cars by a considerable amount.
GM already has a "supercar," the ZR1 is simply a variant.
Google doesn't help...there is a million definitions out there.
Is it price?
Is it the use of carbon fiber?
What exactly?
Don't tell me it's limited production...there is nothing "super" about that.
If measured in performance, the Z06 and the now dead Viper certainly qualify.
Both destroy 90% of the Euro "Supercars" around a track on a regular basis.
In a straight line, they are second only to a few, and most are AWDs.
FWIW and IMO, performance is the primary distinction.
"Supercars" should be able to outperform ordinary cars by a considerable amount.
GM already has a "supercar," the ZR1 is simply a variant.
I concur!!!!
If it performs like a supercar, it is a supercar.
Unless it is a motorcycle, that's a whole nother question
If it doesn't it isn't, no matter how chic.
I care little for "exclusivity".
I value greatly the simplest engineering that gets the desired result, as much as I admire the engineering artistry of other supercars.
I named our Z06 "Raquel", with nods to Ms. Welch.
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I think it's going to be fairly exclusive, but I also think that those that can afford it (and purchase one) will want the 2020 mid-engine, and a used C7 ZR1 will be affordable for mortals. Ok, maybe that's just wishful thinking.
In the meantime, I'm working my *** off to be able to afford one (after I get the wife a new house somewhere warmer than Illinois). Happy wife, happy life.
In the meantime, I'm working my *** off to be able to afford one (after I get the wife a new house somewhere warmer than Illinois). Happy wife, happy life.
#20
In the meantime I sit and wait here in the cold look forward to hearing about a new ZR1.