1/4 Mile Time
01-22-2018, 12:12 AM
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1/4 Mile Time
Any guesses on what this will be for the small wing ZR1? Would be nice do see a 10.5 or 10.6 but not sure the extra 100hp would do that. And yes before those of you come on here stating "so and so's" z06 ran 10.XX I know. I'm not talking about someone's best time at Atco with a 20mph tail wind, perfect weather, and track conditions. I'm referring to an average time. Meaning what the car should run on any given day at any given track. All GM says it should be under 11 seconds, if a Z06 is pretty much a 10.9-11.0 car(again yes I know there are cars that have ran faster, and some slower) then I'd hope it be below 11 seconds.
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01-22-2018, 12:27 AM
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I don't think high 9s even on a hero run is possible. A McLaren 720s which has been dyno'd on more than one occasion to have 685-690rwhp so you're talking upper 700hp or low 800hp at the crank(yes they under state their HP ratings, always have for some reason), weighs about 300lbs less, doesn't have the drag from the track focus pieces is doing high 9s and 10 flat, and they probably have a better launch/traction control system too.
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01-22-2018, 12:35 AM
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The car is getting 100 hp but with more slightly more forward biased
weight and more rolling resistance with the same amount or slightly less traction.
I look for a bigger improvement over 120mph but in the 1/4 I'm not expecting much on the stock rubber. Depends on the 60ft improvement.
01-22-2018, 12:41 AM
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Read his post again! He is not talking about hero runs on the Z06 and the transmission choice is a huge factor here.
The car is getting 100 hp but with more slightly more forward biased
weight and more rolling resistance with the same amount or slightly less traction.
I look for a bigger improvement over 120mph but in the 1/4 I'm not expecting much on the stock rubber. Depends on the 60ft improvement.
The car is getting 100 hp but with more slightly more forward biased
weight and more rolling resistance with the same amount or slightly less traction.
I look for a bigger improvement over 120mph but in the 1/4 I'm not expecting much on the stock rubber. Depends on the 60ft improvement.
01-22-2018, 12:28 PM
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Any guesses on what this will be for the small wing ZR1? Would be nice do see a 10.5 or 10.6 but not sure the extra 100hp would do that. And yes before those of you come on here stating "so and so's" z06 ran 10.XX I know. I'm not talking about someone's best time at Atco with a 20mph tail wind, perfect weather, and track conditions. I'm referring to an average time. Meaning what the car should run on any given day at any given track. All GM says it should be under 11 seconds, if a Z06 is pretty much a 10.9-11.0 car(again yes I know there are cars that have ran faster, and some slower) then I'd hope it be below 11 seconds.
I think using the SC757 (Callaway) is likely a good judge and they claim 10.5 at 135mph in their cars.
I have NO DOUBT that it'll run 9's on a tire.
01-22-2018, 01:00 PM
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I think there are A LOT of people in the 10.8s range in a bone stock A8 C7Z. NOT hero runs. Personally I think 10.5s 'avg.' and likely 10.1 to 10.2s on a hero run.
I think using the SC757 (Callaway) is likely a good judge and they claim 10.5 at 135mph in their cars.
I have NO DOUBT that it'll run 9's on a tire.
I think using the SC757 (Callaway) is likely a good judge and they claim 10.5 at 135mph in their cars.
I have NO DOUBT that it'll run 9's on a tire.
01-22-2018, 10:44 PM
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GM said high 10's on M7 model. Information comes from the Auto Week magazine dated January 8th. That's .3 quicker than the C7 Z06 manual. We probably won't see concrete numbers for quite some time.
02-14-2018, 04:44 PM
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Just bumping this up to see if anyone has heard any other info on any kind of times, not only 1/4 but verified 0-60 etc. Figured with all the sightings people have been seeing maybe someone got lucky enough to ride in one that may be able to comment. I know it's still early but you never know.
02-14-2018, 10:37 PM
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If you want to compete with the A8 Z06 at the strip in a ZR1 you better buy the A8!
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02-14-2018, 11:00 PM
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I think there are A LOT of people in the 10.8s range in a bone stock A8 C7Z. NOT hero runs. Personally I think 10.5s 'avg.' and likely 10.1 to 10.2s on a hero run.
I think using the SC757 (Callaway) is likely a good judge and they claim 10.5 at 135mph in their cars.
I have NO DOUBT that it'll run 9's on a tire.
I think using the SC757 (Callaway) is likely a good judge and they claim 10.5 at 135mph in their cars.
I have NO DOUBT that it'll run 9's on a tire.
02-14-2018, 11:05 PM
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I think there are A LOT of people in the 10.8s range in a bone stock A8 C7Z. NOT hero runs. Personally I think 10.5s 'avg.' and likely 10.1 to 10.2s on a hero run.
I think using the SC757 (Callaway) is likely a good judge and they claim 10.5 at 135mph in their cars.
I have NO DOUBT that it'll run 9's on a tire.
I think using the SC757 (Callaway) is likely a good judge and they claim 10.5 at 135mph in their cars.
I have NO DOUBT that it'll run 9's on a tire.
A8 is 10.4
02-14-2018, 11:32 PM
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That's no Fun! ;)
Drag slicks and skinny's with 50 psi and likely no air filter, plenty of octane and mine shaft air. Plus other tricks of the trade. Doesn't fool me a bit maybe you! When you average you know you throw high and low out!
If you want to compete with the A8 Z06 at the strip in a ZR1 you better buy the A8!
If you want to compete with the A8 Z06 at the strip in a ZR1 you better buy the A8!
But why so Harsh!?
The C6 ZR1 had DR's, and a clutch spring mod as he said, I'm sure. Why would you need to add more with -2000 DA!?
I also really think DOT DR's are fair ball with a car that comes stock with DOT track tires.
Anyway, like he said average so mid 10s well driven in good conditions relative to the ZO6s 10.8!?
And don't look now but the big wing may actually put down more consistent fast times pitched down! The car probably needs far less intervention so all its torque should be able to amply pay the price. It's effectively some of that rearward missing weight at speed.
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02-15-2018, 12:04 PM
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It's true a manual doesn't get easier with more power!
But why so Harsh!?
The C6 ZR1 had DR's, and a clutch spring mod as he said, I'm sure. Why would you need to add more with -2000 DA!?
I also really think DOT DR's are fair ball with a car that comes stock with DOT track tires.
Anyway, like he said average so mid 10s well driven in good conditions relative to the ZO6s 10.8!?
And don't look now but the big wing may actually put down more consistent fast times pitched down! The car probably needs far less intervention so all its torque should be able to amply pay the price. It's effectively some of that rearward missing weight at speed.
But why so Harsh!?
The C6 ZR1 had DR's, and a clutch spring mod as he said, I'm sure. Why would you need to add more with -2000 DA!?
I also really think DOT DR's are fair ball with a car that comes stock with DOT track tires.
Anyway, like he said average so mid 10s well driven in good conditions relative to the ZO6s 10.8!?
And don't look now but the big wing may actually put down more consistent fast times pitched down! The car probably needs far less intervention so all its torque should be able to amply pay the price. It's effectively some of that rearward missing weight at speed.
It seems it is 3 or 4 different things.
02-15-2018, 12:13 PM
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02-15-2018, 12:29 PM
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Somewhat true! ;)
I have to admit that I'm guilty of that myself. I don't read many long dissertations here from amateurs!
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02-15-2018, 05:41 PM
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My Point! ;)
Any guesses on what this will be for the small wing ZR1? Would be nice do see a 10.5 or 10.6 but not sure the extra 100hp would do that. And yes before those of you come on here stating "so and so's" z06 ran 10.XX I know. I'm not talking about someone's best time at Atco with a 20mph tail wind, perfect weather, and track conditions. I'm referring to an average time. Meaning what the car should run on any given day at any given track. All GM says it should be under 11 seconds, if a Z06 is pretty much a 10.9-11.0 car(again yes I know there are cars that have ran faster, and some slower) then I'd hope it be below 11 seconds.
QUARTER MILE 11.4 sec @ 124.4 mph 11.5 sec @ 127.3 mph
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02-15-2018, 08:19 PM
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Low to flat 11's for the M7, high 10's for the A8.
It's going to be greatly traction limited. However, it will walk the Z06 on the big end due to hp and aero advantages.
As for running close to the 720S/GT2RS/488GTO in straightline? Don't bet on it.
It's going to be greatly traction limited. However, it will walk the Z06 on the big end due to hp and aero advantages.
As for running close to the 720S/GT2RS/488GTO in straightline? Don't bet on it.
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02-15-2018, 09:29 PM
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Traction limited I agree with on the M7 but the ZR1 should beat your list except the 720. On 40 and up runs!