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Old 12-14-2018, 02:55 PM
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So you've got development ECMs. That doesn't count.
Old 12-14-2018, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff V.


So you've got development ECMs. That doesn't count.
Development and non development
Old 12-14-2018, 03:29 PM
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Either way, you're loading calibrations to these things with GMs security keys. Of course that's going to work.

Those of us in the outside world don't have access to GMs code signing and development systems, and so we can't write changes to these controllers.
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Originally Posted by Jeff V.
Either way, you're loading calibrations to these things with GMs security keys. Of course that's going to work.

Those of us in the outside world don't have access to GMs code signing and development systems, and so we can't write changes to these controllers.

As I try to send you more accurate and detailed responses, my replys are being held for moderation...just thought I'd let you know
Old 12-14-2018, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Link Eng



As I try to send you more accurate and detailed responses, my replys are being held for moderation...just thought I'd let you know
Keep posting, the censorship will go away.
Old 12-14-2018, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by range96
Keep posting, the censorship will go away.
Three of my posts have been held so far. Probably because I'm revealing to much ha
Old 12-14-2018, 04:40 PM
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I think it's either 10 or 15 posts before you get out of the moderation queue.
Old 12-15-2018, 12:17 AM
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It would be nice to see proof of non development ecu being modifiable. Not to mention In vehicle with every other module communicating properly after said changes. It sounds like you guys are a testing house, of course they will let you in.
Old 12-17-2018, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Link Eng


I have all the documentation on how the modules communicate with one another, but I'll never be in a situation that allows me to test this in a full vehicle. I tested how it would communicate with other modules outside of the vehicle, once the correct signals were simulated.

Here is a screenshot of the aforementioned software at hand.



I find it strange that you're able to speak so freely about GM's intellectual property in a public forum. Because if your company is a 3rd party test facility for them, I would find it highly unlikely that a NDA (non-disclosure agreement) isn't in place to prevent the sharing of any information/knowledge about any of their products, systems, workflows, etc. I'm interested in this topic just like everyone else but you might wanna be careful what you choose to share.

j/s
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Originally Posted by truth.b
I find it strange that you're able to speak so freely about GM's intellectual property in a public forum. Because if your company is a 3rd party test facility for them, I would find it highly unlikely that a NDA (non-disclosure agreement) isn't in place to prevent the sharing of any information/knowledge about any of their products, systems, workflows, etc. I'm interested in this topic just like everyone else but you might wanna be careful what you choose to share.

j/s

I completely understand where you are coming from, that's why I'm selective of the information and pictures that I post. I'm not posting anything to compromise my situation, other than publicly available information.
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Originally Posted by Link Eng


Three of my posts have been held so far. Probably because I'm revealing to much ha
It's an anti-spam measure in place with all new registrants. The only thing you have posted that has been censored was deleted by you.

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Does GM do the actual testing after you make the changes or since you have the engines do you have an engine dyno and give them the results? What end result is GM seeking? Tuning for; 100+ octane, E85, emission work, fuel economy, more hp or maybe less hp for other applications?
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Originally Posted by savewave
It's an anti-spam measure in place with all new registrants. The only thing you have posted that has been censored was deleted by you.

Aside from the posts I did delete, there were a few long winded posts that were held and somehow lost.
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I give up. Seems nobody is getting in this ecm. who wants a zr1?
Old 12-18-2018, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by BearZ06
Does GM do the actual testing after you make the changes or since you have the engines do you have an engine dyno and give them the results? What end result is GM seeking? Tuning for; 100+ octane, E85, emission work, fuel economy, more hp or maybe less hp for other applications?
We do the testing and share the results. And to answer your question vaguely, yes amongst other things.
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Originally Posted by Zr1lsx
I give up. Seems nobody is getting in this ecm. who wants a zr1?
If your giving my it away for pennies on the dollar, I may know a few recepients lol
Old 12-19-2018, 05:17 PM
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First off, definitely not Hennessy or any other company out there has successfully cracked the E99. We are still hoping it comes sooner than later, but people stating that companies like Hennessey are building packages and tuning them are just smoke and mirrors. We have done a couple new ZR1s and only push them as far as the stock ECM will allow us to keep them reliable. Once we are able to tune the ECMs, you will see some great numbers out of this platform!
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Old 12-19-2018, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Late Model Racecraft
First off, definitely not Hennessy or any other company out there has successfully cracked the E99. We are still hoping it comes sooner than later, but people stating that companies like Hennessey are building packages and tuning them are just smoke and mirrors. We have done a couple new ZR1s and only push them as far as the stock ECM will allow us to keep them reliable. Once we are able to tune the ECMs, you will see some great numbers out of this platform!
Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!
Old 12-19-2018, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Late Model Racecraft
First off, definitely not Hennessy or any other company out there has successfully cracked the E99. We are still hoping it comes sooner than later, but people stating that companies like Hennessey are building packages and tuning them are just smoke and mirrors. We have done a couple new ZR1s and only push them as far as the stock ECM will allow us to keep them reliable. Once we are able to tune the ECMs, you will see some great numbers out of this platform!
Out of curiosity what have you done so far and what kind of results have you seen?
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Old 12-30-2018, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by ss2z06

Out of curiosity what have you done so far and what kind of results have you seen?

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