Got my build date!!!
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Got my build date!!!
Dealer confirmed April 23 for the build date.
Does anyone know what the turn around is? Dealer said I should be receiving the car sometime in May
Does anyone know what the turn around is? Dealer said I should be receiving the car sometime in May
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M7 or A8?
That's actually kind of discouraging for me since my dealer still hasn't called me with my allocation to submit an order. I was really hoping to get the car in May so I could get it on track in June.
That's actually kind of discouraging for me since my dealer still hasn't called me with my allocation to submit an order. I was really hoping to get the car in May so I could get it on track in June.
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More relevant info:
First off, April 23rd is a TPW is a target production week. If accurate, it could mean that your car could start down the line as late as Friday, April 27th — or since a TPW is a target, your car might now start down the line until the following week.
Conversely, you could be lucky and it even start mid or late week that week before. However, as this is the beginning of integrating ZR1’s into the production line and as they are others with TPW’s before yours, the chances of your’s starting down the line before Monday, April 23rd are small.
So let’s average your car as starting down the line as Wednesday, April 23rd — meaning ideally it would be done by that Friday.
Then as a minimum, there will be a ten day work-week hold on your car (as a brand new model). Could be longer, but highly unlikely not less than two more weeks. The Quality Control hold could be that two weeks (ten days) or three weeks or even longer.
Next, it further depends on where your dealership is, i.e., will it take a three week train ride if your dealer is out west, or a two day to a week transporter ride to your dealer.
So many unknowns, but “sometime during May” is a reasonable estimate.
Best of luck!
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DebRedZR1 (03-13-2018)
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I don't fully understand the order process that dealers use but your statement caused my ears to perk up. I was in a similar situation with my dealer in that they said they had allocation for 2019 build and I had one of those allocations but they couldn't give me an order number. After pressing them on it, they were just being slow in getting the orders in the system and I finally got an order number which I could verify status with GM Customer Service. My understanding from my dealer and the forum here is that dealers with allocation can submit orders. When that order gets accepted by GM is completely unknown. Thus, it sounds like your dealer should be able to submit your order if they were getting any allocation for 2019 ZR1. I would call them and press them on this point.
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Elegant and Hoosier, thanks for the order info.=) Much confusion out there on allocations/order process etc.
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There is a bunch of confusion. I think the normal process is not so clear. The ZR1 process is abnormal so it makes it worse. I think many dealers don't even fully understand it. Said differently, they can't explain it to me so that tells me they don't understand it. Some of the dealers that post here regularly definitely helped me figure out what I thought should be happening.
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Any dealer who has received the Dec. 12, 2017 document saying that they will be receiving a ZR1 allocation (or more), can submit a ZR1 order at any time. It will sit in GM’s computer as a status 1100 order.
That means just being a place holder, that is until GM taps that dealer on the shoulder right before, or the morning of the Thursday start of an ordering consensus. At that point, GM is saying, we will accept your order this consensus (assuming no constraints, which thankfully, there are none except for a limit of blue stitching — but even that is going away in the next three weeks).
What is especially toughh for those who have ordered a ZR1, is the very slow production rate. And GM is not going to accept an order (it’s going to status 2000 or higher) if they do not have an upcoming production slot). Kai told us months ago, in a Kentucky radio interview, that the ZR1 production rate is “less than 200 per month.” That translates into a total of approximately 2,500 ZR1 orders within the entire U.S. being now and GM’s current estimate of ending 2019 ZR1 production roughly a year from now. In fact, in that Dec. 12th document it literally says, the end of 2019 ZR1 production “is estimated to be March, 2019.”
Even the very largest, top ZR1 allocation dealers (which are receiving over 30 ZR1 allocations between now and March, 2019) are only getting one ZR1 picked up during a consensus, and then not every week. This ZR1 production acceptance roll-out is super, super, super slow. And at the same time, with only 2,500 being produced this 2019 production year, that is not surprising.
That means just being a place holder, that is until GM taps that dealer on the shoulder right before, or the morning of the Thursday start of an ordering consensus. At that point, GM is saying, we will accept your order this consensus (assuming no constraints, which thankfully, there are none except for a limit of blue stitching — but even that is going away in the next three weeks).
What is especially toughh for those who have ordered a ZR1, is the very slow production rate. And GM is not going to accept an order (it’s going to status 2000 or higher) if they do not have an upcoming production slot). Kai told us months ago, in a Kentucky radio interview, that the ZR1 production rate is “less than 200 per month.” That translates into a total of approximately 2,500 ZR1 orders within the entire U.S. being now and GM’s current estimate of ending 2019 ZR1 production roughly a year from now. In fact, in that Dec. 12th document it literally says, the end of 2019 ZR1 production “is estimated to be March, 2019.”
Even the very largest, top ZR1 allocation dealers (which are receiving over 30 ZR1 allocations between now and March, 2019) are only getting one ZR1 picked up during a consensus, and then not every week. This ZR1 production acceptance roll-out is super, super, super slow. And at the same time, with only 2,500 being produced this 2019 production year, that is not surprising.
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I'd imagine that as they get into a groove and figure out how to schedule these better, things may(!!) speed up a bit. But I wouldn't hold your collective breath waiting for it.
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I've a buddy who works at the plant, and he's begun building some of the ZR1s for some popular YouTubers. According to him, the production time for each ZR1 is quite a bit longer than the rest of the cars; there's just more to it.
I'd imagine that as they get into a groove and figure out how to schedule these better, things may(!!) speed up a bit. But I wouldn't hold your collective breath waiting for it.
I'd imagine that as they get into a groove and figure out how to schedule these better, things may(!!) speed up a bit. But I wouldn't hold your collective breath waiting for it.
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There are no constraints from the factory on the ZR1 at this time. Exception: Up to three more weeks on “blue stitching.” However, that is not a 100% constraint, e..g, meaning that some orders with it are being accepted, while some are not.
The issue is for most, not constraints on options nor colors. Post # 9 delineates why most ZR1 orders have not been picked up; in fact our best estimate is that only around 150 ZR1 orders have been accepted, with 22 of those going directly to Spring Mountain.
The issue is for most, not constraints on options nor colors. Post # 9 delineates why most ZR1 orders have not been picked up; in fact our best estimate is that only around 150 ZR1 orders have been accepted, with 22 of those going directly to Spring Mountain.
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