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Old 04-19-2018, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Detoxx03
It can happy with either more seat time from him if he wasn’t swapping dr’s on or from a driver with more experience launching a M7. Set you blind hate aside dude.
Say what? ! Maybe better detox!

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Just a little comparison to show how amazingly fast the new ZR1 is!

The fastest stock Z06, M7, stock tire, is VennieA. Lets just compare it to Mike run.

Track data: 60', 1/8, MPH, 1/4, MPH
VennieA; 1.667, 7.040, 100.28, 10.901, 127.08
Mike ZR1; 1.921, 7.245, 102.11, 10.941, 133.72

The ZR1 is crazy fast on the back half 31.61mph compared to the Z06 26.8mph.
If Mike would have cut a 1.667 like VennieA did, Mike might have gone a 10.5?

Fasten your seatbelts, we are going to see some crazy fast ZR1 times coming!

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Originally Posted by Bob U
Just a little comparison to show how amazingly good the new ZR1 is!

The fastest stock M7 street tire Z06 compared to Mike run;

VennieA Z06 M7 1.667, 7.040, 100.28, 10.901, 127.08
Mike ZR1
The stock C7 z06 m7 is way off the ZR1's pace. The 60ft here is the difference and not sure what tire he used.

Hard to say since the list is on the honor system. He may have had tires and not said.

His 60ft is way better than the normal.
The stock Z06 manual is not that quick. His time is all from the 60ft

The Z06 left a lot on the table you can do. The z06 goes fast with a few mods. The cars are mostly the same. The ZR1 right now is non tunable and till that gets cracked.
The ZR1 is limited

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Originally Posted by 3 Z06ZR1
The stock C7 z06 m7 is way off the ZR1's pace. The 60ft here is the difference and not sure what tire he used.

Hard to say since the list is on the honor system. He may have had tires and not said.

His 60ft is way better than the normal.
The stock Z06 manual is not that quick. His time is all from the 60ft

The Z06 left a lot on the table you can do. The z06 goes fast with a few mods. The cars are mostly the same. The ZR1 right now is non tunable and till that gets cracked.
The ZR1 is limited
Agreed especially if you look at the high trap speed numbers the ZR1's are going to fly! With bolt on's easily in the 140+ range

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Old 04-19-2018, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 3 Z06ZR1
The stock C7 z06 m7 is way off the ZR1's pace. The 60ft here is the difference and not sure what tire he used.

Hard to say since the list is on the honor system. He may have had tires and not said.

His 60ft is way better than the normal.
The stock Z06 manual is not that quick. His time is all from the 60ft

The Z06 left a lot on the table you can do. The z06 goes fast with a few mods. The cars are mostly the same. The ZR1 right now is non tunable and till that gets cracked.
The ZR1 is limited
There are numerous M7 with this kind of 60 foot, 1.6?? on stock tires.
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Originally Posted by 3 Z06ZR1
A C6 is past tense and has nothing to do with the 60ft times of the new car!
Show me the list of 1.7's in the C7 Z06 stock with stock rubber?
The C6 ZR1 has similar power to weight ratio, same gearing , same tire sizes as the M7 C7 Z06. There are 3 M7s listed on the stock with stock tire Z06 fast list and all of them have a 60' time of 1.7X or better.

Here is your list https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...fast-list.html

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Originally Posted by Bob U
There are numerous M7 with this kind of 60 foot, 1.6?? on stock tires.
Where at! Not that I see anywhere. The fast list has the one and I don't buy it was on stock tire. 1.8 Is very good for stock rubber with the M7.
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Originally Posted by 3 Z06ZR1
His did 31 mph increase on the back half when the A8 only did 25mph on the back half!
Yup but the A8 was already busting 110 MPH in the 1/8th in only 6.5 seconds. Even with a 31 MPH back half the A8 still pulling away from the M7 hard
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Originally Posted by racerns
The C6 ZR1 has similar power to weight ratio, same gearing , same tires as the M7 C7 Z06. There are 3 M7s listed on the stock with stock tire Z06 fast list and all of them have a 60' time of 1.7X or better.

Here is your list https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...fast-list.html
All bunk!
The C7 Z06 is near 400lbs with higher gear over the C6 Z06. The ZR1 is lighter as well. Both should out 60ft the heavier C7Z06 car.
The M7 stock 60ft times I discounted due to the honor system of the fast list.
I had 2 C6 z06's and the ZR1 and two C7 z06's I know the cars !


Your 3 examples at least 1 or more are probably not stock rear tires All are cherry picked examples. Not typical at all!
3 doubtful times from the top tracks in mine shaft air!
No way with most cars with most tracks.

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Originally Posted by 3 Z06ZR1
Where at! Not that I see anywhere. The fast list has the one and I don't buy it was on stock tire. 1.8 Is very good for stock rubber with the M7.
Look harder. Stop with the accusations. VinneA was on cup2s I believe. He had pics and video when he ran. Just because you haven't been able to get a good launch with your manuals doesn't mean others haven't.
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Let's compare the ZR1 A8 run to the M7run.

Track data; 60', 1/8, MPH, 1/4, MPH
Mike's ZR1; 1.921, 7.245, 102.11, 10.941, 133.72
Rick's ZR1; 1.575, 6.532, 110.02, 10.122, 135.91

Both very fast cars for their transmission.
The M7 with a small wing, picked up 31.61mph in the back half.
The A8 with wing removed, picked up 25.89mph in the back half.
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Originally Posted by tail_lights
Yup but the A8 was already busting 110 MPH in the 1/8th in only 6.5 seconds. Even with a 31 MPH back half the A8 still pulling away from the M7 hard
Yup the A8 has 30 percent more TQ to the ground over the M7.
10.99 over all low with the A8 and The m7 has only 7.83 about 30 percent
less gearing. Plus the A8 was on slicks! It should have the faster time. But if you look the M7 was pulling back after the 1/8th and picked up 5 mph back on the A8 mph which was not pulling as hard .

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Originally Posted by Bob U
Let's compare the ZR1 A8 run to the M7run.

Track data; 60', 1/8, MPH, 1/4, MPH
Mike's ZR1; 1.921, 7.245, 102.11, 10.941, 133.72
Rick's ZR1; 1.575, 6.532, 110.02, 10.122, 135.91

Both very fast cars for their transmission.
The M7 with a small wing, picked up 31.61mph in the back half.
The A8 with wing removed, picked up 25.89mph in the back half.
Here is a M7 Z06 dyno'd at 636 30 less than Mikes Zr1

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Originally Posted by racerns
Look harder. Stop with the accusations. VinneA was on cup2s I believe. He had pics and video when he ran. Just because you haven't been able to get a good launch with your manuals doesn't mean others haven't.
Think more!
Like the fastest tracks with great prep mine shaft air and a one OFF RUN has anything to do with what most all cars are doing.
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Originally Posted by tail_lights
Yup but the A8 was already busting 110 MPH in the 1/8th in only 6.5 seconds. Even with a 31 MPH back half the A8 still pulling away from the M7 hard
No!!!
I agree the A8 killed it in the 1/8, but the M7 was running it down.
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How can you be running down a car when you aren't going as fast!! The A8 is still pulling away until the M7 reaches the MPH the A8 is going, only then does it finally stops the A8s pull. At that point (if it reaches it, and no telling how far back it is, I'd guess 1/8th of a mile) it will start making ground if it is accelerating faster.
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Originally Posted by tail_lights


How can you be running down a car when you aren't going as fast!! The A8 is still pulling away until the M7 reaches the MPH the A8 is going, only then does it finally stops the A8s pull. At that point (if it reaches it, and no telling how far back it is, I'd guess 1/8th of a mile) it will start making ground if it is accelerating faster.
I agree with your point, the A8 still out mph it in the 1/4.
My point is that the M7 really shines on the back half of the track, just look at the difference in mph increase. The M7 is making up a lot of ground on the A8
If both cars were on Drag Radials the M7 would be a lot closer, the M7 is not going to beat a same configured/mods A8 in a 1/4 race.

A roll race from 50mph would be interesting!

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A bunch of jerks on the forum these days...

That guy is driving the freakin car like its supposed to be driven and having fun while these azzholz sit behind their keyboards and bitch. Im loving what the ZR1 is showing us so far and so far Im SOLD! Gonna wait until next year to trade in my Z06 but meanwhile, gonna sit back and enjoy the ride of thoes who are getting the 1st editions!
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I'm sorry but how is the M7 going to magically catch up/pull on/pass an A8 just because? Both cars make the sam power and the gearing change isn't that big...Put an M7 against an A8 with a god driving the M7 that could shift in 200-300 ms, and they'd be dead even. Put any HUMAN against an A8 and they'll lose. There's NO point where an M7 would be faster if both cars are setup the same.
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Originally Posted by Can'tHave2MuchHP
I'm sorry but how is the M7 going to magically catch up/pull on/pass an A8 just because? Both cars make the sam power and the gearing change isn't that big...Put an M7 against an A8 with a god driving the M7 that could shift in 200-300 ms, and they'd be dead even. Put any HUMAN against an A8 and they'll lose. There's NO point where an M7 would be faster if both cars are setup the same.
The A8 gets the quicker 60ft from the 10.99 over all low.
The M7 has a 7.83 over all low you can do the math and the A8 has about 30 percent lower over all gearing in first.

We know the importance of the fast 60ft in drag racing. The other difference in the times in the drag tires on the A8. The m7 cannot compete in this instance. The M7 can compete in roll racing.
Where the power to weight advantage. The A8 actually dynos' about
about 20-25 rwhp less due to drive train losses.

The shifting speed is way over blown as a factor over an experience stick driver. You can flat foot the manual as well.

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