SS717 M7 ZR1 went 10’s!
#41
Team Owner
#42
Drifting
Just a little comparison to show how amazingly fast the new ZR1 is!
The fastest stock Z06, M7, stock tire, is VennieA. Lets just compare it to Mike run.
Track data: 60', 1/8, MPH, 1/4, MPH
VennieA; 1.667, 7.040, 100.28, 10.901, 127.08
Mike ZR1; 1.921, 7.245, 102.11, 10.941, 133.72
The ZR1 is crazy fast on the back half 31.61mph compared to the Z06 26.8mph.
If Mike would have cut a 1.667 like VennieA did, Mike might have gone a 10.5?
Fasten your seatbelts, we are going to see some crazy fast ZR1 times coming!
The fastest stock Z06, M7, stock tire, is VennieA. Lets just compare it to Mike run.
Track data: 60', 1/8, MPH, 1/4, MPH
VennieA; 1.667, 7.040, 100.28, 10.901, 127.08
Mike ZR1; 1.921, 7.245, 102.11, 10.941, 133.72
The ZR1 is crazy fast on the back half 31.61mph compared to the Z06 26.8mph.
If Mike would have cut a 1.667 like VennieA did, Mike might have gone a 10.5?
Fasten your seatbelts, we are going to see some crazy fast ZR1 times coming!
Last edited by Bob U; 04-19-2018 at 03:41 PM.
#43
Team Owner
Hard to say since the list is on the honor system. He may have had tires and not said.
His 60ft is way better than the normal.
The stock Z06 manual is not that quick. His time is all from the 60ft
The Z06 left a lot on the table you can do. The z06 goes fast with a few mods. The cars are mostly the same. The ZR1 right now is non tunable and till that gets cracked.
The ZR1 is limited
Last edited by 3 Z06ZR1; 04-19-2018 at 03:36 PM.
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blb078 (04-19-2018)
#44
The stock C7 z06 m7 is way off the ZR1's pace. The 60ft here is the difference and not sure what tire he used.
Hard to say since the list is on the honor system. He may have had tires and not said.
His 60ft is way better than the normal.
The stock Z06 manual is not that quick. His time is all from the 60ft
The Z06 left a lot on the table you can do. The z06 goes fast with a few mods. The cars are mostly the same. The ZR1 right now is non tunable and till that gets cracked.
The ZR1 is limited
Hard to say since the list is on the honor system. He may have had tires and not said.
His 60ft is way better than the normal.
The stock Z06 manual is not that quick. His time is all from the 60ft
The Z06 left a lot on the table you can do. The z06 goes fast with a few mods. The cars are mostly the same. The ZR1 right now is non tunable and till that gets cracked.
The ZR1 is limited
Last edited by charles7970; 04-19-2018 at 03:38 PM.
#45
Drifting
The stock C7 z06 m7 is way off the ZR1's pace. The 60ft here is the difference and not sure what tire he used.
Hard to say since the list is on the honor system. He may have had tires and not said.
His 60ft is way better than the normal.
The stock Z06 manual is not that quick. His time is all from the 60ft
The Z06 left a lot on the table you can do. The z06 goes fast with a few mods. The cars are mostly the same. The ZR1 right now is non tunable and till that gets cracked.
The ZR1 is limited
Hard to say since the list is on the honor system. He may have had tires and not said.
His 60ft is way better than the normal.
The stock Z06 manual is not that quick. His time is all from the 60ft
The Z06 left a lot on the table you can do. The z06 goes fast with a few mods. The cars are mostly the same. The ZR1 right now is non tunable and till that gets cracked.
The ZR1 is limited
#46
Melting Slicks
Here is your list https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...fast-list.html
Last edited by racerns; 04-19-2018 at 03:54 PM.
#47
Team Owner
#48
Race Director
#49
Team Owner
The C6 ZR1 has similar power to weight ratio, same gearing , same tires as the M7 C7 Z06. There are 3 M7s listed on the stock with stock tire Z06 fast list and all of them have a 60' time of 1.7X or better.
Here is your list https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...fast-list.html
Here is your list https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...fast-list.html
The C7 Z06 is near 400lbs with higher gear over the C6 Z06. The ZR1 is lighter as well. Both should out 60ft the heavier C7Z06 car.
The M7 stock 60ft times I discounted due to the honor system of the fast list.
I had 2 C6 z06's and the ZR1 and two C7 z06's I know the cars !
Your 3 examples at least 1 or more are probably not stock rear tires All are cherry picked examples. Not typical at all!
3 doubtful times from the top tracks in mine shaft air!
No way with most cars with most tracks.
Last edited by 3 Z06ZR1; 04-19-2018 at 04:11 PM.
#50
Melting Slicks
Look harder. Stop with the accusations. VinneA was on cup2s I believe. He had pics and video when he ran. Just because you haven't been able to get a good launch with your manuals doesn't mean others haven't.
#51
Drifting
Let's compare the ZR1 A8 run to the M7run.
Track data; 60', 1/8, MPH, 1/4, MPH
Mike's ZR1; 1.921, 7.245, 102.11, 10.941, 133.72
Rick's ZR1; 1.575, 6.532, 110.02, 10.122, 135.91
Both very fast cars for their transmission.
The M7 with a small wing, picked up 31.61mph in the back half.
The A8 with wing removed, picked up 25.89mph in the back half.
Track data; 60', 1/8, MPH, 1/4, MPH
Mike's ZR1; 1.921, 7.245, 102.11, 10.941, 133.72
Rick's ZR1; 1.575, 6.532, 110.02, 10.122, 135.91
Both very fast cars for their transmission.
The M7 with a small wing, picked up 31.61mph in the back half.
The A8 with wing removed, picked up 25.89mph in the back half.
#52
Team Owner
10.99 over all low with the A8 and The m7 has only 7.83 about 30 percent
less gearing. Plus the A8 was on slicks! It should have the faster time. But if you look the M7 was pulling back after the 1/8th and picked up 5 mph back on the A8 mph which was not pulling as hard .
Last edited by 3 Z06ZR1; 04-19-2018 at 04:27 PM.
#53
Team Owner
Let's compare the ZR1 A8 run to the M7run.
Track data; 60', 1/8, MPH, 1/4, MPH
Mike's ZR1; 1.921, 7.245, 102.11, 10.941, 133.72
Rick's ZR1; 1.575, 6.532, 110.02, 10.122, 135.91
Both very fast cars for their transmission.
The M7 with a small wing, picked up 31.61mph in the back half.
The A8 with wing removed, picked up 25.89mph in the back half.
Track data; 60', 1/8, MPH, 1/4, MPH
Mike's ZR1; 1.921, 7.245, 102.11, 10.941, 133.72
Rick's ZR1; 1.575, 6.532, 110.02, 10.122, 135.91
Both very fast cars for their transmission.
The M7 with a small wing, picked up 31.61mph in the back half.
The A8 with wing removed, picked up 25.89mph in the back half.
Stock tire
#54
Team Owner
Like the fastest tracks with great prep mine shaft air and a one OFF RUN has anything to do with what most all cars are doing.
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blb078 (04-19-2018)
#55
Drifting
#56
Race Director
How can you be running down a car when you aren't going as fast!! The A8 is still pulling away until the M7 reaches the MPH the A8 is going, only then does it finally stops the A8s pull. At that point (if it reaches it, and no telling how far back it is, I'd guess 1/8th of a mile) it will start making ground if it is accelerating faster.
#57
Drifting
How can you be running down a car when you aren't going as fast!! The A8 is still pulling away until the M7 reaches the MPH the A8 is going, only then does it finally stops the A8s pull. At that point (if it reaches it, and no telling how far back it is, I'd guess 1/8th of a mile) it will start making ground if it is accelerating faster.
My point is that the M7 really shines on the back half of the track, just look at the difference in mph increase. The M7 is making up a lot of ground on the A8
If both cars were on Drag Radials the M7 would be a lot closer, the M7 is not going to beat a same configured/mods A8 in a 1/4 race.
A roll race from 50mph would be interesting!
#58
Melting Slicks
A bunch of jerks on the forum these days...
That guy is driving the freakin car like its supposed to be driven and having fun while these azzholz sit behind their keyboards and bitch. Im loving what the ZR1 is showing us so far and so far Im SOLD! Gonna wait until next year to trade in my Z06 but meanwhile, gonna sit back and enjoy the ride of thoes who are getting the 1st editions!
That guy is driving the freakin car like its supposed to be driven and having fun while these azzholz sit behind their keyboards and bitch. Im loving what the ZR1 is showing us so far and so far Im SOLD! Gonna wait until next year to trade in my Z06 but meanwhile, gonna sit back and enjoy the ride of thoes who are getting the 1st editions!
#59
Pro
Thread Starter
I'm sorry but how is the M7 going to magically catch up/pull on/pass an A8 just because? Both cars make the sam power and the gearing change isn't that big...Put an M7 against an A8 with a god driving the M7 that could shift in 200-300 ms, and they'd be dead even. Put any HUMAN against an A8 and they'll lose. There's NO point where an M7 would be faster if both cars are setup the same.
#60
Team Owner
I'm sorry but how is the M7 going to magically catch up/pull on/pass an A8 just because? Both cars make the sam power and the gearing change isn't that big...Put an M7 against an A8 with a god driving the M7 that could shift in 200-300 ms, and they'd be dead even. Put any HUMAN against an A8 and they'll lose. There's NO point where an M7 would be faster if both cars are setup the same.
The M7 has a 7.83 over all low you can do the math and the A8 has about 30 percent lower over all gearing in first.
We know the importance of the fast 60ft in drag racing. The other difference in the times in the drag tires on the A8. The m7 cannot compete in this instance. The M7 can compete in roll racing.
Where the power to weight advantage. The A8 actually dynos' about
about 20-25 rwhp less due to drive train losses.
The shifting speed is way over blown as a factor over an experience stick driver. You can flat foot the manual as well.