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Old 04-26-2018, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by keagan
While that’s nice of Team Corvette to give their competition time, deep down I can’t help but think this is all bait. Why didn’t they release a time when they broke the VIR record a week before the FGT broke it? It’s like they are waiting to drop a bomb. Like yeah you go ahead and take an hour of our rental time, no biggie, we got this one in the bag kinda thing. I will never believe the ZR1 did 7:12. Has any of the more recent sports, super cars been attempting a record run at Laguna after the ACR? It’s kinda quiet over there.

You mean kind of like Tadge did with the Z06?? It was along the lines of we...ran it and we were very pleased with the time. Stay tuned because we're going to be releasing it very soon......

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Originally Posted by Xanthophyll
You mean kind of like Tadge did with the Z06?? It was along the lines of we...ran it and we were very pleased with the time. Stay tuned because we're going to be releasing it very soon......
Lol, only this time he ain’t saying nothing. I’ll be glad when this is all over, whether it comes out next month or in a decade, I can then go back to saving my pennies to buy my first Vette.
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Originally Posted by Achmed
According to this article GM volunteered their track time to help Porsche https://www.carthrottle.com/post/che...3-rs-ring-lap/
Indeed and now you guys know I am in the "know"....

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...post1597046656

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Told ya! ROLF!

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Maybe Porsche was sandbagging and Corvette felt bad about the P slow time.or Corvette knew they had nothing for Porsche and decided to leave.

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Originally Posted by Telepierre
Indeed and now you guys know I am in the "know"....

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...post1597046656

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Originally Posted by keagan
While that’s nice of Team Corvette to give their competition time, deep down I can’t help but think this is all bait. Why didn’t they release a time when they broke the VIR record a week before the FGT broke it? It’s like they are waiting to drop a bomb. Like yeah you go ahead and take an hour of our rental time, no biggie, we got this one in the bag kinda thing. I will never believe the ZR1 did 7:12. Has any of the more recent sports, super cars been attempting a record run at Laguna after the ACR? It’s kinda quiet over there.
jvp did say though that while they went faster than 7:12 they didn't get the run they were hoping for the to weather or such, I think that was near their last day at the ring.
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Old News!

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jvp did say though that while they went faster than 7:12 they didn't get the run they were hoping for the to weather or such, I think that was near their last day at the ring.
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Just read this on Bridge to Gantry's Dale Lomas Twitter feed.

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Hey #corvettezr1 lovers... the white laptime car just had 1 lap of the #Nürburgring to itself for a fast lap. Hopefully this one will be faster than Monday? Conditions are quite warm!
We wait!

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We wait!
would be cool but what are the chances that just a one lap try would give a sub 7
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Originally Posted by Achmed
would be cool but what are the chances that just a one lap try would give a sub 7
Unlikely but then again aren't Mero's records with the C6s only one lap?..at least that is how I remember them...
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Maybe Oliver ain’t got use to the car at the Ring yet.
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Originally Posted by Telepierre
Unlikely but then again aren't Mero's records with the C6s only one lap?..at least that is how I remember them...
I could be wrong but I think I read that the 2012 Z06 and ZR1 ring times were 3 laps each.

Do we even know if it was Jim driving? It could have been Oliver. His post on instagram last Fall included something to the effect of him working on "taming" the ZR1 at the Ring, so it didn't sound overly confident. Plus while he's an excellent C7.R driver, he had a considerably slower lap time than Andy Pilgrim when they drove Grand Sports at Atlanta Motorsports.
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I think we ll never hear about this time
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Originally Posted by UnhandledException
I think we ll never hear about this time

I think you're right. (I hope I'm wrong.)

Sigh.
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Sad we never got an official GM laptime for any of the C7 cars. I believe that’s correct?

So weird because GM hyped ring times so much with the C5 and C6 along with the CTS-V.

makes you wonder?

so, I have a 2018 GT3 and am on the list for an RS. Waiting for allocation with the next wave that is supposed to be coming. If I don’t get an RS, I’m quite happy with my normal 991.2 GT3. I have similar laptimes already between it and my 2010 ZR1 which I still have. Love that car and not getting rid of it.

I’ve had two GT cars so far (GT4 and now this GT3) and it’s very fun and the almost flat depreciation curve doesn’t hurt either.

I am interested in the C7 ZR1, but will want a $20k discount like I got on my 2010 ZR1 so will need to wait a while or I may never get it if they don’t build enoufh of them. Also, want to hear real-world reports on hot weather performance and any degradation. That is one thing I love about the GT Porsches. They just don’t overheat and they feel fresh after a very hard track weekend. My coolant sits at 185 and my oil temp is 220-225 flogging the GT3 at COTA and other tracks around Texas. It’s nice.

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Originally Posted by QUIKAG
Sad we never got an official GM laptime for any of the C7 cars. I believe that’s correct?

I believe that is correct too.

For the C8 reveal there will be a map of VIR in the display background rather than the Nurburgring ;-)

Jokes aside, it's not surprising to me that GM isn't investing as much in chasing ring times (as much as I'd like to see a sub-7 minute time), as many of the top times are now achieved with "street cars" that have basic functions deleted for weight savings or that such limited production cars have blurred the lines with production cars. The first odd new record was the "Nismo GTR" which clearly had aftermarket parts yet still is listed on the production cars lap Ring time listing.
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Originally Posted by QUIKAG
Sad we never got an official GM laptime for any of the C7 cars. I believe that’s correct?

So weird because GM hyped ring times so much with the C5 and C6 along with the CTS-V.

makes you wonder?

so, I have a 2018 GT3 and am on the list for an RS. Waiting for allocation with the next wave that is supposed to be coming. If I don’t get an RS, I’m quite happy with my normal 991.2 GT3. I have similar laptimes already between it and my 2010 ZR1 which I still have. Love that car and not getting rid of it.

I’ve had two GT cars so far (GT4 and now this GT3) and it’s very fun and the almost flat depreciation curve doesn’t hurt either.

I am interested in the C7 ZR1, but will want a $20k discount like I got on my 2010 ZR1 so will need to wait a while or I may never get it if they don’t build enoufh of them. Also, want to hear real-world reports on hot weather performance and any degradation. That is one thing I love about the GT Porsches. They just don’t overheat and they feel fresh after a very hard track weekend. My coolant sits at 185 and my oil temp is 220-225 flogging the GT3 at COTA and other tracks around Texas. It’s nice.
Good info. For sure a 9 year old C6, even if it's a ZR1 does not have the pizzaz of an '18 GT3. But it's telling that a car that can commonly be bought for $65K (stockish?) runs the same lap times as a $180k wonder car.
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Originally Posted by Suns_PSD
Good info. For sure a 9 year old C6, even if it's a ZR1 does not have the pizzaz of an '18 GT3. But it's telling that a car that can commonly be bought for $65K (stockish?) runs the same lap times as a $180k wonder car.
I'm a former ZR1 owner and loved that car. However, comparing what a used car goes for commonly, to the new price of its competitor really means nothing. Further, the GT3 is pretty ,much the same since 2014. I do agree its still impressive on the part of the ZR1 however.

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If a time doesn't translate than there simply still is too much fundamentally wrong with the car. IE The Viper's front tires, and the C7's extra weight, possibly.
The Ring literally shakes that stuff out. Tadge's "Proving of Mettle" if we will!


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Originally Posted by johnglenntwo
If a time doesn't translate than there simply still is too much fundamentally wrong with the car. IE The Viper's front tires, and the C7's extra weight, possibly.
The Ring literally shakes that stuff out. Tadge's "Proving of Mettle" if we will!


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Originally Posted by Suns_PSD
Good info. For sure a 9 year old C6, even if it's a ZR1 does not have the pizzaz of an '18 GT3. But it's telling that a car that can commonly be bought for $65K (stockish?) runs the same lap times as a $180k wonder car.
All true. I do think I can ultimately be faster in the GT3 as I learn how a 911 handles as it’s VERY different than the Vette. I’m very experienced with Vettes, 911 not so much. That said, the way the 911 digs out of a corner is extremely impressive. Right at apex, just nail the gas and the car sits down in the back and just rockets out of the corner with the slightest bit of push that I believe is almost negated with the rear wheel steer. Also, the braking is immense even with the steel brakes. It’s much more benign that I expected as I thought it would be tail happy, but it’s way less so than the ZR1.

Anyway, just love both cars for very different reasons. The ZR1 is a keeper I’ve had since new for over 7 years and I still smile when I drive it. That said, the 9,000rpm wail of the flat six is impressive especially with a GRP center exhaust bypass. Below is a quick clip of me running down the front straight at COTA:


Then again, this is my ZR1 and that beautiful LS9 running down the back straight at COTA:

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