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Old 04-24-2018, 08:38 AM
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After finding out the dealer wouldn’t do a tire “swap” from the Cup2’s to Pilot SS, I’m leaning toward taking delivery and street driving the car with the Cup2’s on it. The alternative is to buy Pss’s from the dealer and have them installed and then have the Cup2’s shipped 800 miles to me to sell.. BS I’m not interested in doing. Anyone who has experience with Cup2’s on the street please chirp it here. Has anyone out there been successful in doing a swap somehow?

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Drive it home, swap to SS and sell the Cup 2's on here.

The Cup 2's on the street won't last as long, don't like water and are difficult to drive when cold.

Once they heat up, they'll pick up all sorts of debris and fling it. They are track tires.

They are great tires but for a specific purpose only.
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Originally Posted by Robert R1
Drive it home, swap to SS and sell the Cup 2's on here.

The Cup 2's on the street won't last as long, don't like water and are difficult to drive when cold.

Once they heat up, they'll pick up all sorts of debris and fling it. They are track tires.

They are great tires but for a specific purpose only.
I appreciate your input.
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Well said Robert R. Slip and slide until they heat up and are debris magnets when the heat up. A great track tire.
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What tires do you recommend
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I run cup2's on the track and I heat cycle the new ones on the road before I track. I usually put several hundred miles on the street before tracking and the tires are great if it's not raining. I haven't noticed that they're any more difficult to drive cold than the pss's and I swap them out regularly. The cups actually seem to ride better to me. Ymmv.

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I had Cup 2's and Toyo R888's in the past. Geezus they are not that bad unless it's a downpour and you hit standing water. All summer tires when cold is dangerous if you're planning on mashing the pedal.

If there's no downpour, drive the car normally and you'll be fine. If there's a lot of rain, take it really easy and try to stay in the middle lane (less chance of hydroplaning). The grooves on these race tires do a crappy job of channeling water so hydroplaning is more suitable to happen on them.

Aside from that, no big deal really.
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Originally Posted by SoCalFinest
I had Cup 2's and Toyo R888's in the past. Geezus they are not that bad unless it's a downpour and you hit standing water. All summer tires when cold is dangerous if you're planning on mashing the pedal.

If there's no downpour, drive the car normally and you'll be fine. If there's a lot of rain, take it really easy and try to stay in the middle lane (less chance of hydroplaning). The grooves on these race tires do a crappy job of channeling water so hydroplaning is more suitable to happen on them.

Aside from that, no big deal really.
I Have Cup2s on my Z06 and have driven the car in the rain and lived to type this. Warm up the Cup2s before spirited driving and they have tons of grip.

I will agree that the Cup2s pick up everything off the road so if this is a problem, then the Super Sports are for you.

I only got 7200 miles out of the Cup2s before I had to replace them and they are not cheap!!!
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Originally Posted by Rinaldo Catria
After finding out the dealer wouldn’t do a tire “swap” from the Cup2’s to Pilot SS, I’m leaning toward taking delivery and street driving the car with the Cup2’s on it. The alternative is to buy Pss’s from the dealer and have them installed and then have the Cup2’s shipped 800 miles to me to sell.. BS I’m not interested in doing. Anyone who has experience with Cup2’s on the street please chirp it here. Has anyone out there been successful in doing a swap somehow?
Where is the selling dealer located? If they're close I'll buy the tires and pick them up. Or maybe we can have the dealer ship them directly to me. Let me know.
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Tire rack sells the Pilot ss. About $1,700. for a set of 4.

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Costco sells the PSS's for $1650 - but if you want them to mount them, make sure it is warm out and leave the tires in the sun. Did a set of 4 on my ZR1 last December ... first day it took 3 hours and they totally failed. Next day we left them in 90 degree sun and it still took 2.5 hours. I am at 610 to the ground and the 20's will hook up nicely once they are warm... at least when they are under a year old
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Originally Posted by Ramsair
Costco sells the PSS's for $1650 - but if you want them to mount them, make sure it is warm out and leave the tires in the sun. Did a set of 4 on my ZR1 last December ... first day it took 3 hours and they totally failed. Next day we left them in 90 degree sun and it still took 2.5 hours. I am at 610 to the ground and the 20's will hook up nicely once they are warm... at least when they are under a year old
Did they scratch your rims?
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Originally Posted by vetteb_96C
Did they scratch your rims?
They did not - have to say they were very, very careful. The rims only had 6k on them and were pristine ... any mark or mar would have been immediately noticed. I know they don't like doing them - they almost gave up and sent me to the dealership (they charge $40 a wheel). The 20's are the hardest and take the most time. At one point they had 4 guys working on one tire.

Not sure why the pic is sideways - anyway... they gave it the extra, extra effort.
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Originally Posted by Robert R1
Drive it home, swap to SS and sell the Cup 2's on here.

The Cup 2's on the street won't last as long, don't like water and are difficult to drive when cold.

Once they heat up, they'll pick up all sorts of debris and fling it. They are track tires.

They are great tires but for a specific purpose only.
Another option would be to install an aftermarket wheel/tire package to reduce the hassle of swapping tires. Keep the OEM wheels/cup tires for the track days and then mount them back on come trade-in time and re-use or sell your aftermarket set-up.
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R888Rs if they have your needed sizes.

Maybe buy a set of 18" wheels for the car with R888Rs mounted on them for summer use. That would be a HUGE improvement in performance. Those huge diameter wheels really drag an engine and brakes down with their large moment of inertia.

I drive my R888Rs in the rain and it's totally fine.

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Thanks for the input. Question: I assume there’s no caliper clearance issues with the carbon ceramic brakes?
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Originally Posted by Rinaldo Catria
After finding out the dealer wouldn’t do a tire “swap” from the Cup2’s to Pilot SS, I’m leaning toward taking delivery and street driving the car with the Cup2’s on it. The alternative is to buy Pss’s from the dealer and have them installed and then have the Cup2’s shipped 800 miles to me to sell.. BS I’m not interested in doing. Anyone who has experience with Cup2’s on the street please chirp it here. Has anyone out there been successful in doing a swap somehow?
Is there a specific reason the dealer will not allow you to buy PSS from them and have them mount/balance the tires?

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Originally Posted by Rinaldo Catria
Thanks for the input. Question: I assume there’s no caliper clearance issues with the carbon ceramic brakes?
That would be a question for your wheel supplier.
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Originally Posted by RichieRichZ06
Is there a specific reason the dealer will not allow you to buy PSS from them and have them mount/balance the tires?
I think I have things on the way to being worked out. A bit of a misunderstanding on my part too.. I will have Pilot SS mounted at the dealer before delivery to me. Then hopefully I might be able to sell the new CUP2’s on this forum and have them shipped by the dealer to the buyer. Or by some miracle, picked up there.
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Remember to remind the service tech to use the rotor pillows that come with the car to protect the carbon ceramic rotors from damage in case the wheel barrel hits the rotors when the wheel is being removed. If the rotor chips, it will need to be replaced. Something to look for if you don't see the car until afterwards.


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