Why only slow releasing allocations??
05-29-2018, 09:29 PM
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If you are talking about BGA itself, it has been doing 10 hour days for months, 116 units per day, Mondays through Thursdays only. I do not know what the ZR1 CF supplier has been doing, but even if you are referring to it and it has been doing overtime for months, as jvp noted, 42 wings per week is its maximum capacity.
Several of us have been posting for months and month that the visible carbon fiber is the limitation on ZR1 production. I heard that myself talking with Harlan while at it LA private reveal. I posted it then, a couple of times since, yet few believed it then, and few believe it now.
Sorry, but those are the facts. Do we now think that GM, since the ZR1 is hotter than hot right now, that if they could double or even 50% increase weekly production, that they would not choose to do that. Hell, there are many dealers who have zero ZR1 allocation through next March (the end of 2019 production), who have been clamoring at GM, “I could sell some ZR1’s if you gave me an allocation.”
The 2019 ZR1’s production is supplier limited — and thus capped at 2,500 US units between its March 1st introduction and its end of March, 2019 production.
Several of us have been posting for months and month that the visible carbon fiber is the limitation on ZR1 production. I heard that myself talking with Harlan while at it LA private reveal. I posted it then, a couple of times since, yet few believed it then, and few believe it now.
Sorry, but those are the facts. Do we now think that GM, since the ZR1 is hotter than hot right now, that if they could double or even 50% increase weekly production, that they would not choose to do that. Hell, there are many dealers who have zero ZR1 allocation through next March (the end of 2019 production), who have been clamoring at GM, “I could sell some ZR1’s if you gave me an allocation.”
The 2019 ZR1’s production is supplier limited — and thus capped at 2,500 US units between its March 1st introduction and its end of March, 2019 production.
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05-29-2018, 10:00 PM
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05-31-2018, 05:54 PM
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If you are talking about BGA itself, it has been doing 10 hour days for months, 116 units per day, Mondays through Thursdays only. I do not know what the ZR1 CF supplier has been doing, but even if you are referring to it and it has been doing overtime for months, as jvp noted, 42 wings per week is its maximum capacity.
Several of us have been posting for months and month that the visible carbon fiber is the limitation on ZR1 production. I heard that myself talking with Harlan while at it LA private reveal. I posted it then, a couple of times since, yet few believed it then, and few believe it now.
Sorry, but those are the facts. Do we now think that GM, since the ZR1 is hotter than hot right now, that if they could double or even 50% increase weekly production, that they would not choose to do that. Hell, there are many dealers who have zero ZR1 allocation through next March (the end of 2019 production), who have been clamoring at GM, “I could sell some ZR1’s if you gave me an allocation.”
The 2019 ZR1’s production is supplier limited — and thus capped at 2,500 US units between its March 1st introduction and its end of March, 2019 production.
Several of us have been posting for months and month that the visible carbon fiber is the limitation on ZR1 production. I heard that myself talking with Harlan while at it LA private reveal. I posted it then, a couple of times since, yet few believed it then, and few believe it now.
Sorry, but those are the facts. Do we now think that GM, since the ZR1 is hotter than hot right now, that if they could double or even 50% increase weekly production, that they would not choose to do that. Hell, there are many dealers who have zero ZR1 allocation through next March (the end of 2019 production), who have been clamoring at GM, “I could sell some ZR1’s if you gave me an allocation.”
The 2019 ZR1’s production is supplier limited — and thus capped at 2,500 US units between its March 1st introduction and its end of March, 2019 production.
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06-01-2018, 02:55 PM
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If you are talking about BGA itself, it has been doing 10 hour days for months, 116 units per day, Mondays through Thursdays only. I do not know what the ZR1 CF supplier has been doing, but even if you are referring to it and it has been doing overtime for months, as jvp noted, 42 wings per week is its maximum capacity.
Several of us have been posting for months and month that the visible carbon fiber is the limitation on ZR1 production. I heard that myself talking with Harlan while at it LA private reveal. I posted it then, a couple of times since, yet few believed it then, and few believe it now.
Sorry, but those are the facts. Do we now think that GM, since the ZR1 is hotter than hot right now, that if they could double or even 50% increase weekly production, that they would not choose to do that. Hell, there are many dealers who have zero ZR1 allocation through next March (the end of 2019 production), who have been clamoring at GM, “I could sell some ZR1’s if you gave me an allocation.”
The 2019 ZR1’s production is supplier limited — and thus capped at 2,500 US units between its March 1st introduction and its end of March, 2019 production.
Several of us have been posting for months and month that the visible carbon fiber is the limitation on ZR1 production. I heard that myself talking with Harlan while at it LA private reveal. I posted it then, a couple of times since, yet few believed it then, and few believe it now.
Sorry, but those are the facts. Do we now think that GM, since the ZR1 is hotter than hot right now, that if they could double or even 50% increase weekly production, that they would not choose to do that. Hell, there are many dealers who have zero ZR1 allocation through next March (the end of 2019 production), who have been clamoring at GM, “I could sell some ZR1’s if you gave me an allocation.”
The 2019 ZR1’s production is supplier limited — and thus capped at 2,500 US units between its March 1st introduction and its end of March, 2019 production.
06-01-2018, 04:18 PM
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Great post. In recent years many of the constraints would be on the quality visible carbon fiber parts like roof panels and ground effects. For example you may have ordered a Z06 with carbon flash painted CF and your order was accepted, but somebody else who ordered with visible CF had to wait out a constraint. Apparently there are not a lot of sources for the visible CF.
06-01-2018, 05:10 PM
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ztk??
06-01-2018, 05:15 PM
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Sorry, yes it’s ZTK. AW A8 coupe, JB int, red caliper, red stitch and belts the simple stuff lol. No known constraints thru build pick up process, was ordered Feb/23 picked up for prod first part of March and lingered without tpw till mid April with a tpw of 5/21 which was built on that Monday.
06-23-2018, 08:40 AM
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As I understand it both the low and high wings come from a company called BeBotech and they are having issues producing the wings.
06-23-2018, 08:48 AM
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The can only produce just over 40 ZR1's per week due to the manufacturing process at the supplier from what I understand, I haven't heard of anything going on constraint which would mean there is an issue getting whatever item is on constraint.
06-27-2018, 05:42 PM
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The layman might be convinced of this....the Production Man says build a 2nd set of Rate Tooling and find a 2nd fabrication source.....no Manufacturer should have a single source bottleneck that would kill Production in the event of a catastrophic event (e.g. autoclave down indefinitely)….been there done that lol! This is traditionally done with Composite Manufacturing and before you go there JVP yes, I have over 20 years Experience in Managing Large Scale Composite Manufacturing Facilities that build parts smaller than these all the way to complete Aircraft Body Sections/Wings so I likely know what I'm talking about when it comes to Nickle and Dime parts the size of C7 Carbon Fiber parts!
06-27-2018, 06:04 PM
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The layman might be convinced of this....the Production Man says build a 2nd set of Rate Tooling and find a 2nd fabrication source.....no Manufacturer should have a single source bottleneck that would kill Production in the event of a catastrophic event (e.g. autoclave down indefinitely)….been there done that lol! This is traditionally done with Composite Manufacturing and before you go there JVP yes, I have over 20 years Experience in Managing Large Scale Composite Manufacturing Facilities that build parts smaller than these all the way to complete Aircraft Body Sections/Wings so I likely know what I'm talking about when it comes to Nickle and Dime parts the size of C7 Carbon Fiber parts!
06-27-2018, 07:23 PM
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06-27-2018, 07:46 PM
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It's probably not a good idea to "think" you know someone's background/capabilities/business understanding based on nothing....you might be a little surprised if you did! I have a complete understand of how "cheap" GM is when it comes to 2nd sources and paying for rate tooling since I was also a potential supplier bidding for their work, and you?
06-27-2018, 08:46 PM
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It's probably not a good idea to "think" you know someone's background/capabilities/business understanding based on nothing....you might be a little surprised if you did! I have a complete understand of how "cheap" GM is when it comes to 2nd sources and paying for rate tooling since I was also a potential supplier bidding for their work, and you?
06-27-2018, 08:55 PM
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Thanks for clearing that up. You are bitter you did not get the contract so you are bashing the General. I know who and what I need to know. The thread is about ALLOCATIONS not GM Supplier politics. Production of the ZR1 was never planned to be on the same level as the Z06.
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