StreetSpeed's ZR1 is for sale already
06-14-2018, 11:25 AM
#82
Le Mans Master
I'm not an attorney to do pro bono service on the internet, but you can take my "opinion" to heart. The car is advertised as a demo. Based on youtube videos this car was not used as a dealer demo. That is factual, not just an opinion. Wait until GM denies warranty on it. If it comes to a legal battle, the seller would loose. For me, it's a non-issue as I would not consider buying it. Neither would any person who knows the history of the car. Personally, I would not consider buying a non-ZTK 7M car even with 0 miles. Neither did Street17. The selling dealer should do a full disclosure on this sale to protect the buyer AND himself.
06-14-2018, 12:08 PM
#83
Banned Scam/Spammer
I'm not an attorney to do pro bono service on the internet, but you can take my "opinion" to heart. The car is advertised as a demo. Based on youtube videos this car was not used as a dealer demo. That is factual, not just an opinion. Wait until GM denies warranty on it. If it comes to a legal battle, the seller would loose. For me, it's a non-issue as I would not consider buying it. Neither would any person who knows the history of the car. Personally, I would not consider buying a non-ZTK 7M car even with 0 miles. Neither did Street17. The selling dealer should do a full disclosure on this sale to protect the buyer AND himself.
This car is the very definition of a Demo. I don't know where you get your "facts" from but a simple internet search could tell you really anyone can drive a Demo car.
http://www.realcartips.com/newcars/0...emo-cars.shtml
https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/...-car/index.htm
https://www.autobytel.com/car-buying...-deals-104220/
06-14-2018, 04:22 PM
#84
Le Mans Master
This car is the very definition of a Demo. I don't know where you get your "facts" from but a simple internet search could tell you really anyone can drive a Demo car.
http://www.realcartips.com/newcars/0...emo-cars.shtml
https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/...-car/index.htm
https://www.autobytel.com/car-buying...-deals-104220/
http://www.realcartips.com/newcars/0...emo-cars.shtml
https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/...-car/index.htm
https://www.autobytel.com/car-buying...-deals-104220/
I think I expressed my views on this subject enough, so take it or leave it, I'm out for now. I may chime in later as we learn new information on the sale of this car. I predict there will be more controversy about it in the future.
06-14-2018, 04:38 PM
#85
Team Owner
False! Demo cars are not driven on race tracks, dragstrips and have modified exhaust on them.You showing me examples of demo car advices on the internet does not make this car a demo.
I think I expressed my views on this subject enough, so take it or leave it, I'm out for now. I may chime in later as we learn new information on the sale of this car. I predict there will be more controversy about it in the future.
I think I expressed my views on this subject enough, so take it or leave it, I'm out for now. I may chime in later as we learn new information on the sale of this car. I predict there will be more controversy about it in the future.
One call to Ebay would get the ad pulled! Deceptive ad and with the 20 you tube video's it's IMO beyond dumb to list it as new!
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06-14-2018, 04:56 PM
#86
Source: I’m an eBay seller since 1997 with 18,900+ feedback rating at 100%. Owned eBay “Trading Post” brick and mortar store for years
06-14-2018, 11:06 PM
#87
Team Owner
I think your wrong but Really could careless since I have less than no interest in buying but the person buying will! Ebay seller and you think the deal selling the used car with 20 videos showing everything with the car at race tracks etc then with an owner plus wearing out the tires so it has new tires ? Then say it is new is Ok?
I disagree on that~!
Last edited by 3 Z06ZR1; 06-14-2018 at 11:12 PM.
06-14-2018, 11:53 PM
#88
Incorrect? Like you have a thing to with Ebay policy?
I think your wrong but Really could careless since I have less than no interest in buying but the person buying will! Ebay seller and you think the deal selling the used car with 20 videos showing everything with the car at race tracks etc then with an owner plus wearing out the tires so it has new tires ? Then say it is new is Ok?
I disagree on that~!
I think your wrong but Really could careless since I have less than no interest in buying but the person buying will! Ebay seller and you think the deal selling the used car with 20 videos showing everything with the car at race tracks etc then with an owner plus wearing out the tires so it has new tires ? Then say it is new is Ok?
I disagree on that~!
I guess you would require a “new” car (by your definition) with 30 miles to have some sort of disclosure and proof of how those miles were put on? And because this car doesn’t have this disclosure for the 3000 it has on it the dealer is pulling some sort of scam?
The buyer should do his/her due diligence and either buy it or not. They could always ASK the dealer how the miles were put on ya know... If they don’t, they either don’t care or will live it
06-15-2018, 04:31 AM
#89
Banned Scam/Spammer
False! Demo cars are not driven on race tracks, dragstrips and have modified exhaust on them.You showing me examples of demo car advices on the internet does not make this car a demo.
I think I expressed my views on this subject enough, so take it or leave it, I'm out for now. I may chime in later as we learn new information on the sale of this car. I predict there will be more controversy about it in the future.
I think I expressed my views on this subject enough, so take it or leave it, I'm out for now. I may chime in later as we learn new information on the sale of this car. I predict there will be more controversy about it in the future.
06-15-2018, 04:55 AM
#90
Team Owner
Your definition of “new” clearly differs from that of the law. If you have an issue with that you should write your congressman. I was simply pointing out that nothing in the listing is misleading or violates eBay’s rules.
I guess you would require a “new” car (by your definition) with 30 miles to have some sort of disclosure and proof of how those miles were put on? And because this car doesn’t have this disclosure for the 3000 it has on it the dealer is pulling some sort of scam?
The buyer should do his/her due diligence and either buy it or not. They could always ASK the dealer how the miles were put on ya know... If they don’t, they either don’t care or will live it
If they find later of all the BS that went with this particular car, the final seller, could be on the hook! Wide open for a lawsuit! Like the ZR1 is the last new car any way I would choose! I would buy when a Z06 is available. I'm waiting on the ME as the next purchase.
06-15-2018, 04:55 AM
#91
Legally, nothing is wrong with the ad. Legal definition of new car is simply that it is still on MSO. eBay also says similar definition for their new car and says it should only have demonstration miles on them....which can be many things that the car is "demo."
But looking at GM's Warranty, the buyer better know the history because I can easily see GM deny repairs as the vehicle has clearly done several of the below:
http://www.chevrolet.com/owners/warranty
But looking at GM's Warranty, the buyer better know the history because I can easily see GM deny repairs as the vehicle has clearly done several of the below:
The New Vehicle Limited Warranty does not cover damage caused as a result of the following:
- Collision, fire, theft, freezing, vandalism, riot, explosion, or objects striking the vehicle.
- Misuse of the vehicle such as driving over curbs, overloading, racing, or other competition. Proper Vehicle use is discussed in the Owner’s Manual.
- Alteration, modification, or tampering to the vehicle, including, but not limited to the body, chassis, powertrain, driveline, software, or other components after final assembly by GM.
- Coverages do not apply if the odometer has been disconnected, its reading has been altered, or mileage cannot be determined.
- Installation of non-GM (General Motors) parts.
- Water or fluid contamination.
- Damage resulting from hail, floods, windstorms, lightning, and other environmental conditions.
- Alteration of glass parts by application of tinting films.
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06-15-2018, 05:02 AM
#92
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06-15-2018, 05:07 AM
#93
Would anyone from CF pay essentially MSRP for this car and buy with confidence knowing that it was a legally new car?
I mean it's not an opinion...legally it's a new car! Look up the definition!!! It's new I tell you!
I mean it's not an opinion...legally it's a new car! Look up the definition!!! It's new I tell you!
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06-15-2018, 06:01 AM
#94
Geesh. You guys are a bunch of cry babies. I see many of you list your cars for sale after you drag race them and never mention it on the ad. Go outside and mow the lawn or something positive.
06-15-2018, 08:15 AM
#95
Le Mans Master
Legally, nothing is wrong with the ad. Legal definition of new car is simply that it is still on MSO. eBay also says similar definition for their new car and says it should only have demonstration miles on them....which can be many things that the car is "demo."
But looking at GM's Warranty, the buyer better know the history because I can easily see GM deny repairs as the vehicle has clearly done several of the below:
http://www.chevrolet.com/owners/warranty
But looking at GM's Warranty, the buyer better know the history because I can easily see GM deny repairs as the vehicle has clearly done several of the below:
http://www.chevrolet.com/owners/warranty
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06-15-2018, 08:37 AM
#96
Yeah right! 30 miles? you mean 3000? Write my congressman! If they find later of all the BS that went with this particular car, the final seller, could be on the hook! Wide open for a lawsuit! Like the ZR1 is the last new car any way I would choose! I would buy when a Z06 is available. I'm waiting on the ME as the next purchase.
If they find later of all the BS that went with this particular car, the final seller, could be on the hook! Wide open for a lawsuit! Like the ZR1 is the last new car any way I would choose! I would buy when a Z06 is available. I'm waiting on the ME as the next purchase.
06-15-2018, 09:21 AM
#97
Instructor
We get it.... There's 20 freakin YouTube videos.
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06-15-2018, 02:54 PM
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Who cares, if you don't like it don't buy it. Are you even buying a new ZR1 at all? I doubt it. I don't see how the car was abused anyway. Isn't that what it was built for? This thread has just gone nuts. Typical CF responses getting all worked up over nothing and something that doesn't even concern you. Give it rest. Time to lock this one.