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Old 07-15-2018, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Achmed
I'm not sure where the rumour of same to 100 and 150 as the Z06 started?

It has the same or similar 0-60 (as traction is the limiting factor), braking and skidpad results, no surprise there. The latter two are similar to the GS as well. Beyond 0-60 though is a different story.

ZR1 in this test
0- to 60 3.1
0 to 100 6.5
1/4 mile 11.0 131

Z06 from previous test
C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 3.0 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 6.8 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 11.1 sec @ 127 mph

pretty close results

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Originally Posted by Ted P
ZR1 in this test
0- to 60 3.1
0 to 100 6.5
1/4 mile 11.0 131

Z06 from previous test
C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 3.0 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 6.8 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 11.1 sec @ 127 mph

pretty close results
0-to 150mph and beyond is where the bigger supercharger in the c7 zr1 makes the difference over the c7z06. Both the c6z06 and c6zr1’s post better results to 150 and beyond to a higher top speed then the c7z06.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Gizmo


0-to 150mph and beyond is where the bigger supercharger in the c7 zr1 makes the difference over the c7z06. Both the c6z06 and c6zr1’s post better results to 150 and beyond to a higher top speed then the c7z06.
Bull. C7Z has posted much faster 1/2 and especially 1 mile than the C6 Z06. It also had faster 1/2 mile than the C6 ZR1 and matched it @ 1 mile...

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Originally Posted by Ted P
ZR1 in this test
0- to 60 3.1
0 to 100 6.5
1/4 mile 11.0 131

Z06 from previous test
C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 3.0 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 6.8 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 11.1 sec @ 127 mph

pretty close results
lol "conveniently" leaving out the zero to 150 as well as ignoring the faster ZR1 test that wasnt in 93 degree heat.

Even using the slowest ZR1 test vs the fastest Z06 test like you did, its 60-100 in 3.4 vs 3.8 seconds, not close at all. And 60-127 in 8.1 for the Z06 vs 60-131 in 7.9 for the ZR1.

Like i said the results are similar to 60 because of traction, but beyond that they are two different cars, even when you cherry pick test results
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Fixed it for for you, and since you're using the fastest Z06 test to date its fair to use the same for the ZR1 too.

Originally Posted by Ted P
ZR1 in this test (slowest CD test to date)

0- to 60 3.1
0 to 100 6.5
0 to 150 15.3
1/4 mile 11.0 131

ZR1 from previous test
C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 3.0 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 6.1 sec
Zero to 150 mph: 13.7 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 10.8 sec @ 135 mph
60 mph to 100 mph: 3.1 sec
60 mph to 150 mph: 10.7 sec


Z06 from previous test (fastest CD test to date)
C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 3.0 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 6.8 sec
Zero to 150 mph: 17.8 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 11.1 sec @ 127 mph
60 mph to 100 mph: 3.8 sec
60 mph to 150 mph: 14.8 sec


pretty close quite different results (past 60 mph)
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Originally Posted by Achmed
lol "conveniently" leaving out the zero to 150 as well as ignoring the faster ZR1 test that wasnt in 93 degree heat.

Even using the slowest ZR1 test vs the fastest Z06 test like you did, its 60-100 in 3.4 vs 3.8 seconds, not close at all. And 60-127 in 8.1 for the Z06 vs 60-131 in 7.9 for the ZR1.

Like i said the results are similar to 60 because of traction, but beyond that they are two different cars, even when you cherry pick test results

I'm not saying the ZR1 is not faster then the Z06. With 100 more HP and $32,000 more it better be faster. You're right that to 150 is where they get separated. My point is for real world/street driving where we never will see 150 you don't have that much separation as you do to 100 with the McLaren 720 and Porsche GT2rs where they get there in 5.2 and 5.5 seconds which is where I was hoping the ZR1 would be instead of low to mid 6's
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Originally Posted by Lavender


Bull. C7Z has posted much faster 1/2 and especially 1 mile than the C6 Z06. It also had faster 1/2 mile than the C6 ZR1 and matched it @ 1 mile...
you are incorrect. Car and driver December 2008 posted a zero to 150 on the c6 z06 At 17.3 seconds a half second quicker then the m7 c7z06 car and driver recorded in 2015 at 17.8 seconds. And the c6zr1’s in that same December 2008 issue posted 16.4 seconds to 150 near 2 seconds quicker the the m7 or a8 c7 z06’s to 150mph . A c7z06 will pull a c6z06 by a car length or 2 up to 120 mph. Then the c7z06 will get walked on past 120 mph by the c6z06 and will fall short 8 to 10mph of the c6z06’s top speed.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Gizmo


you are incorrect. Car and driver December 2008 posted a zero to 150 on the c6 z06 At 17.3 seconds a half second quicker then the m7 c7z06 they recorded in 2015. And the c6zr1’s in that same December 2008 issue posted 16.4 seconds to 150 better then 2 seconds quicker the the m7 or a8 c7 z06’s. A c7z06 will pull a c6z06 by a car length or 2 up to 120 mph. Then the c7z06 will get walked on past 120 mph by the c6z06 and will fall short 8 to 10mph of the c6z06’s top speed.
Actually... no not really. Are you magazine racing right now? Theres fast list @ C7Z06 section. Please go and educate yourself..troll.
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Originally Posted by Ted P
I'm not saying the ZR1 is not faster then the Z06. With 100 more HP and $32,000 more it better be faster. You're right that to 150 is where they get separated. My point is for real world/street driving where we never will see 150 you don't have that much separation as you do to 100 with the McLaren 720 and Porsche GT2rs where they get there in 5.2 and 5.5 seconds which is where I was hoping the ZR1 would be instead of low to mid 6's
I'd say in real world/street driving it will be night and day difference between the zr1 and z06 during highway pulls (that is why I showed 60-100 of both).

Ignoring stop lights, an A8 ZR1 accelerates comparable to the likes of 570s, 488, huracan and much faster than 911 Turbo S, AMG GT-R, Nismo GTR but nowhere near a 720 or GT2rs (which you'll almost never see in real world driving either).

yeah the price bump is a fair bit over a Z06, a chunk of it is because of the "mandatory" exposed carbon fiber parts that are optional on a Z06. Overall it still punches well above its price point and puts the C7 in a league which the Z06 did not reach.
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Originally Posted by Lavender
Actually... no not really. Are you magazine racing right now? Theres fast list @ C7Z06 section. Please go and educate yourself..troll.
gizmos quoted numbers are correct lol, where the real world differences lie are that the c6z was manual only so those test numbers he quoted arent as consistent IRL.
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Originally Posted by Lavender
Actually... no not really. Are you magazine racing right now? Theres fast list @ C7Z06 section. Please go and educate yourself..troll.
It’s car and driver testing. - more similar test environment and equipment then the c7z06 fast list.
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Originally Posted by Achmed
gizmos quoted numbers are correct lol, where the real world differences lie are that the c6z was manual only so those test numbers he quoted arent as consistent IRL.
and going from a c6z06 only available in manual to an m7 c7z06, I will say from my personal experience that the c7z definently trails behind the c6z on the big end.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Gizmo


It’s car and driver testing. - more similar test environment and equipment then the c7z06 fast list.
Fastest bone stock C7 Z06 has gone 158.7mph @ standing 1/2 mile. How fast is a C6 Z06 @ standing 1/2 mile? Answer is...much slower. So is the C6 ZR1... You know thats a result from people going out and driving their cars vs magazine racing like yourself.
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Originally Posted by Lavender
Fastest bone stock C7 Z06 has gone 158.7mph @ standing 1/2 mile. How fast is a C6 Z06 @ standing 1/2 mile? Answer is...much slower. So is the C6 ZR1... You know thats a result from people going out and driving their cars vs magazine racing like yourself.
i am sorry I hurt your feelings. You seem like a very sensative and delicate individual that upsets easily about this very socially important topic. I will go look at the fast lists and reflect on your vast racing expertise. Now let’s return to topic zr1 vs Porsche gt2

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They said they didn't want to spoil Lightning Lap results .
That's B.S. from them
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Originally Posted by UnhandledException
Wow.... This is so BAD! 11.1@131? Same time as Z06 to 100 and 150? A8 is so slow you can count 1 Mississippi and so on?

I’m not even going to say anything.
Too bad that it doesn't have the A10 transmission option that the Camaro ZL1 has, all auto magazine writers talk highly about it.
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Originally Posted by Ted P
ZR1 in this test
0- to 60 3.1
0 to 100 6.5
1/4 mile 11.0 131

Z06 from previous test
C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 3.0 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 6.8 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 11.1 sec @ 127 mph

pretty close results
Almost the same
Minus the overheating of the Z06

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Originally Posted by desmophile
The Porsche wins by C&D criteria. But it will cost you at least $204,920 more. I could pay off my mortgage for that.

My issue was in the mail today, SLC.
I knew that the Porsche GT2RS was going to beat the ZR1, but had high expectations for the Corvette. Somewhere I read that GM already had reach the high limit of the FE chassis, and it was the reason why they moved on with the ME C8 to to keep competing with the exotic european sport cars.

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This is speed trace of the run out of Oak Tree at VIR. The blue line is the C7 ZR1 and the red line is the C7 Z06. Ambient for the ZR1 was 82F. Ambient for the Z06 was 59F.

As you can see they are pretty even through 2nd gear (~90 MPH) but after that the ZR1 starts walking away.

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i am sorry I hurt your feelings. You seem like a very sensative and delicate individual that upsets easily about this very socially important topic. I will go look at the fast lists and reflect on your vast racing expertise. Now let’s return to topic zr1 vs Porsche gt2
I thought so..


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