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Old 07-25-2018, 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by HTXSkydiver


LOL this guy again. “$200k poor man’s lambo”... what’s in your garage again? Still waiting for an answer as to why you even bother on this forum. Don’t you have catching up to do over on the mustang board? Yet again Mr troll, no one is listening. Come talk when you’ve actually laid eyes on any of these cars. No one cares about your opinion of poorly balanced and biased comparisons of cars you only dream about.
I doubt he has a garage. Then comparing a 4 wheel drive from the dig to ZR1 M7 wasn't the best idea we know the 60ft is horrible.

Shows the difference between cars with a poor 60ft to good one. Roll race shows the M7 ran even. The ZR1 from the roll matched the other car step for step.
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Old 07-25-2018, 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by RedZ4me
To anyone stating “ driver mod “, What will driver mod do for you when one clearly pulls away and at a good pace?? Answer is zero - Huracan just pulls harder period.
DId you see they were neck and neck on the roll race? What you saw in the first race was 4 wheel drive hooking and the ZR1 2 wheel drive with too tall of first not hooking. The A8 ZR1 with tire.
at the strip beats that Hurican.
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Old 07-25-2018, 01:33 AM
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I'm so confused, there was a video like 2 weeks ago of a ZR1 with the ZTK Package roll racing tons of cars, including a VF Supercharged Huracan, and it beat it. How the hell is it now losing to a stock Huracan? Something has to be up.

Also whoever said the Huracan weighs 3600 lbs has no knowledge of cars. The heaviest one you can buy is 3400 lbs (AWD, non Performante). The car in the video is a rear wheel drive version.

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Originally Posted by four0nefive

Also whoever said the Huracan weighs 3600 lbs has no knowledge of cars. The heaviest one you can buy is 3400 lbs (AWD, non Performante). The car in the video is a rear wheel drive version.
You would actually be the one who has no knowledge of cars based on your statement. The Huracan in the video is a 610-4. I'll let you figure out what the -4 stands for. There's 3 different versions of the Huracan(not counting spiders), 580-2, 610-4, Peformante. And all three have different front ends and different rear ends so it's pretty easy to tell them apart w/o having to look at the little emblem on the side of the car. And the Huracan 610-4 like the one in the video actually weighs over 3500lbs, ask me how I know!

What I find funny about these threads is every time the ZR1 loses, it needs a driver mod. Why can't people just accept the results for what they are. I could car less which one is faster personally, it is funny to watch some of you bicker over it though.

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Originally Posted by blb078
You would actually be the one who has no knowledge of cars based on your statement. The Huracan in the video is a 610-4. I'll let you figure out what the -4 stands for. There's 3 different versions of the Huracan(not counting spiders), 580-2, 610-4, Peformante. And all three have different front ends and different rear ends so it's pretty easy to tell them apart w/o having to look at the little emblem on the side of the car. And the Huracan 610-4 like the one in the video actually weighs over 3500lbs, ask me how I know!

What I find funny about these threads is every time the ZR1 loses, it needs a driver mod. Why can't people just accept the results for what they are. I could car less which one is faster personally, it is funny to watch some of you bicker over it though.
Ok I'll eat my words on the Huracan in the video. I was thinking of a different YouTuber who had a LP580-2 and then I remembered the car belongs to Dragtimes so it's a LP 610-4 (I just got home from a track day so I'm tired, cut me some slack).

I'm guessing you own a Huracan and hence you know the weight? When did they get that heavy? I know the Performante is lighter than 3400 lbs, but wow, I though the Huracan wasn't that heavy. I'm actually surprised by that considering the ZR1 has tons of cooling, more creature comforts, and a huge wing and only weighs 100 lbs more.
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I feel like the comments here are shocking. If one small, tiny facet of this outcome surprised you, you are out of touch. Off a dig, Lambo was sure to murder the car...it's got way more linear power delivery, GOBS of traction...they launch hard as ever, and the cars are way more aerodynamically efficient toward the top. Once that car got a run off the line, it's over...that's plainly obvious. The roll race, again, completely predictable. Put them on a track like Big Willow or COTA, the ZR1 tears up the Huracan, especially at a track with some technical nature to it....and it's a far cheaper to own car. The Huracan is also a mutant of fantastic, just like the 570s. I think the ZR1 did exactly as expected here and frankly I think it did phenomenal in a simple straight line comparison.

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You saw the M7 do another **** poor 60ft. The Z06 M7 doesn't 60ft well and the nose heavier ZR1 M7 is worse The A8 would have done much better. From the roll they were close. The advantage of 4 wheel drive as well. ZR1 had a lot a tire spin the other car had none.
The ZR1 in the video is an auto not a M7.
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1 Extreme apologists are as bad as trolls.
2 A Corvette by name will always be judge by its performance.
3 There is room for constructive criticism.

Every forum, every model, every year, forever. Same stuff, trolls, apologists and everything in between.
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In all honesty... The result doesn't matter. I was expecting the ZR1 to beat the Lambo. I would still take the Huracan if I could afford either. Dreams. A C6 will do nicely, or a C4, or an Esprit. Heck, I wouldn't be miserable if I never got beyond the fiero 😂 stop worrying so much about performance
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Originally Posted by HTXSkydiver


So much this
X1000 I have yet to hear from one Z06 owner that went to a ZR say they were disappointed.
Bear is on here, doubt he has time to waste on the haters 🏁
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Originally Posted by DebRedZR1

X1000 I have yet to hear from one Z06 owner that went to a ZR say they were disappointed.
Bear is on here, doubt he has time to waste on the haters 🏁
and you likely won't as people are reticent to say the extra $30,000 wasn't worth it. The ZR1 is a better car than the Z06 but just not $30,000 better from what I've seen
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Originally Posted by Ted P
and you likely won't as people are reticent to say the extra $30,000 wasn't worth it. The ZR1 is a better car than the Z06 but just not $30,000 better from what I've seen
Get back to us when you have one to compare, I'm not going to waste my time reiterating the improvements.
Same thing when the C6 ZR came out.
Carry on haters.
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Originally Posted by Ted P
and you likely won't as people are reticent to say the extra $30,000 wasn't worth it. The ZR1 is a better car than the Z06 but just not $30,000 better from what I've seen
LOL this is quite a stretch. To me (and other ZR1 owners Ive talked to) the cooling, aero, and styling upgrades are MORE than worth the premium a ZR1 commands. The added power and chassis/suspension tuning is just a plus! Anything to get rid of the hideous plastic fender spats and draggy wicker bill. To suggest a measurable fraction of ZR1 ownership is disappointed is laughable.

I live in Houston, TX where the Z06 heat issue is serious. There are guys who regularly track their cooling modded Z06's in this region with MUCH MORE in them than a new ZR1 costs. Some still struggle to keep their cars on track for a 20min session! Same track day (same temp and conditions) ZR1 is out there lap after lap with no issue. That alone is proof of performance enhancement in the ZR1 vs Z06. The Z06 is going to have a hard time matching lap times with the ZR1 (as some suggest it can) when its in limp mode and the ZR1 is screaming by at full tilt.
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Originally Posted by HTXSkydiver
LOL this is quite a stretch. To me (and other ZR1 owners Ive talked to) the cooling, aero, and styling upgrades are MORE than worth the premium a ZR1 commands. The added power and chassis/suspension tuning is just a plus! Anything to get rid of the hideous plastic fender spats and draggy wicker bill. To suggest a measurable fraction of ZR1 ownership is disappointed is laughable.

I live in Houston, TX where the Z06 heat issue is serious. There are guys who regularly track their cooling modded Z06's in this region with MUCH MORE in them than a new ZR1 costs. Some still struggle to keep their cars on track for a 20min session! Same track day (same temp and conditions) ZR1 is out there lap after lap with no issue. That alone is proof of performance enhancement in the ZR1 vs Z06. The Z06 is going to have a hard time matching lap times with the ZR1 (as some suggest it can) when its in limp mode and the ZR1 is screaming by at full tilt.
That BIG AZZ wing and a the Carbon Fiber <3
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Originally Posted by DebRedZR1

Get back to us when you have one to compare, I'm not going to waste my time reiterating the improvements.
Same thing when the C6 ZR came out.
Carry on haters.

haters??. you sound like a teenager. I wanted this thing to be a supercar and compete with he worlds best supercars. Maybe it still will when we start seeing more track comparisons. Just because I've chosen not to buy 1 doesn't mean I can't share my thoughts

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I don't see the problem - it should have been expected that the ZR1 will lose off of a dig due AWD vs RWD. They were dead even on the roll, also should have been expected as they both trap almost the same speed and have similar time delta between 0-60 and 1/4 mile.

The Huracan may have picked up slightly around 150 mph - also expected due to ZTK aero...just like a Performante would also start falling behind at very high speeds due to aero.

The 3ZR ZTK ZR1 is closer to 3700 lbs than 3600 like the video quoted. Not sure about the Performante weight but I think its less than what the video quoted too. Transmission difference too, heat may have been a factor like the video says, etc.

Would be cool to see the ZR1 vs AMG, maybe it can get a decisive win so everyone can be happy lol

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Damn, someone left the flood gates open for the haters and trolls. There has been an increasing number of pest on this board lately.
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Originally Posted by Glenn Quagmire
I love the whiners and posers here that actually care about roll races or 1/4 mile runs. There’s soooo much more to owning supercars than this, and something will always be faster. Those of us that have actual ownership experience with the ZR1 and other exotics will tell you that the vette is an outstanding and very impressive machine....especially when compared to cars many times its price. For most here, the car has little to do with performance, because the driver doesn’t have anywhere near the skill to even push it.

So, while a handful here do battle with 4” rulers, I’m enjoying the hell out of this ZR1. If/when something breaks, I’ll drop it at the local Chevy dealer. When I last shipped my McLaren out for an oil change, it came back with a coolant leak, requiring that it be shipped out again for the right rear of the car to be disassembled. Sure, parts and labor were covered under warranty. But, I was without the car for a month and spent nearly $10K. Oh, and don’t get me started on the super secret paint codes that only Christ himself has access to.
The only problem with your statement is the assumption you are making around ZR1 being a supercar. It is not. It now weighs as much as a mustang GT500 and makes as much power. GT500 will retail for around $80,000-90,000. That’s the price of a loaded BMW X5. There is nothing unique, revolutionary about ZR1. There is no active aero, some unique suspension (such as what mclaren does) or new tech like RWS from Porsche or dual intakes or ICTBs like Ferrari. ZR1 is a regular $50,000 corvette with a big supercharger, better differential, brakes, and CF aero bits. All of these components are bought from outside of GM, none are designed in house like Porsche does with their PDK or RWS or Mclaren does with their suspension or differential. Here brembo brakes, bam. Here eaton supercharger, bam.

It is actually YOU who are comparing these cars on paper like bench racers. You are looking at ZR1 based on its specs on paper and making a statement. You need to look at the details.

Just because car has 750 hp does not make it a “super car”. You can have 4 door cars now that can carry 5 people and cargo which can go as fast as ZR1 in a drag strip. They are not super cars.

I mean this sincerely a car like huracan is borderline supercar, gt3rs is not even considered one. Porsche’s only super car now is gt2rs.

I dont think America has a super car besides Ford GT. Period.

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Originally Posted by Achmed
I don't see the problem - it should have been expected that the ZR1 will lose off of a dig due AWD vs RWD. They were dead even on the roll, also should have been expected as they both trap almost the same speed and have similar time delta between 0-60 and 1/4 mile.

The Huracan may have picked up slightly around 150 mph - also expected due to ZTK aero...just like a Performante would also start falling behind at very high speeds due to aero.

The 3ZR ZTK ZR1 is closer to 3700 lbs than 3600 like the video quoted. Not sure about the Performante weight but I think its less than what the video quoted too. Transmission difference too, heat may have been a factor like the video says, etc.

Would be cool to see the ZR1 vs AMG, maybe it can get a decisive win so everyone can be happy lol
They were even on a roll? ZR1 has 25% more horse power!!! Its one race of ”a” supercar vs zr1 and on a roll that there was no excuse for zr1 to lose. No driver mod, nothing! Smash the pedal and go! Huracan is a supercar that costs one of the least, has the one of the least amount of hp, and one of the heaviest. If ZR1 cannot beat that on a roll, I dont know what it can beat. Maybe we should compare with an M5?

Please stop making up excuses. Car is a pig.

We will come back to this forum 1 year from today and revisit where zr1 is in terms of feedback of the owners as well as how much its going for.

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