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Old 08-26-2018, 12:56 PM
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Default Dragtimes racing ZR1 vs Ford GT

How come the ZR1's slower?


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Old 08-26-2018, 02:19 PM
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Same driver in all the races against his cars is my guess. He got some pretty late starts, not saying the ZR1 would of won as I don't have a dog in this fight but the Z needs better representation.
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Z was slow to go on the green
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Originally Posted by sammy burks
Z was slow to go on the green
Thats the A8 for you slow on the rolls!
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I did beat a Huracan for example in a roll race. You probably could give this guy a Bugatti Chiron and he would still lose!
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ZR1 with its archaic transmission and 1950s heavy front engine/rwd/forced induction/lots of weight architecture is just no match for a mid engine, dual clutch, lightweight GT?

There is just way too much negative press for this car and for everything to be a driver error/bad tires/bad magazine problem is just highly unlikely.

Be objective please.

AND the zr1 has no secondary cats and have a mid pipe. Car easily makes 780hp at crank.

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Originally Posted by UnhandledException
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ZR1 with its archaic transmission and 1950s heavy front engine/rwd/forced induction/lots of weight architecture is just no match for a mid engine, dual clutch, lightweight GT?

There is just way too much negative press for this car and for everything to be a driver error/bad tires/bad magazine problem is just highly unlikely.

Be objective please.

AND the zr1 has no secondary cats and have a mid pipe. Car easily makes 780hp at crank.
The guy driving the ZR1 is trash as in every other video on that channel. Late on the green, even misses a shift somehow in the third race. What’s obvious is the low wing ZR1 if left to shift on its own would have won fairly easily.

Also, did u see the specs at the beginning?! As compared, the GT is over THREE TIMES the price and even the video says they’re EVENLY MATCHED. Hey UE, how about you be objective for once and eat your words. Lol, you say the ZR1 is “no match” however the video you are using as evidence says the exact opposite. I’d call this a good showing for the ZR1 even though it could have clearly been driven faster. Btw, a YouTube video with poor driving hardly qualifies as “negative press” lmao
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They trapped the same mph in all 3 races, but would be curious to see a data log of the zr1 to see if it's pulling timing since it's hot out as 130mph seems low even for a ztk optioned one.
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Originally Posted by HTXSkydiver


The guy driving the ZR1 is trash as in every other video on that channel. Late on the green, even misses a shift somehow in the third race. What’s obvious is the low wing ZR1 if left to shift on its own would have won fairly easily.

Also, did u see the specs at the beginning?! As compared, the GT is over THREE TIMES the price and even the video says they’re EVENLY MATCHED. Hey UE, how about you be objective for once and eat your words. Lol, you say the ZR1 is “no match” however the video you are using as evidence says the exact opposite. I’d call this a good showing for the ZR1 even though it could have clearly been driven faster. Btw, a YouTube video with poor driving hardly qualifies as “negative press” lmao
how can he miss a shift on an a8 car?

what super cars is zr1 beating? Everytime it loses you guys pull the “oh but that car costs X amount” card. It even lost to huracan and by looking at the trap speeds its putting down a 991.2 gt3rs with 225hp less will be head to head with it.
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Originally Posted by UnhandledException


how can he miss a shift on an a8 car?


He hit the rpm limiter before shifting, in two of the races. That wouldn't have happened in "auto" mode, so apparently he was in manual shift mode, and shifted too late.
Yeah, kind of mind boggling that one could manage to "miss a shift" in the A8, but he managed to do it.

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  1. The corvette driver is not very good and may not have been in the correct gear at the start. Also, Brooks is a really good driver.
  2. The ZR1 could be pulling timing as it was hot out and probably needed to be running race gas and not 91 or 93 as GM cars seem to be tuned very conservatively. I'm sure Brooks was running race gas in the GT as he usually does with all his cars. Also a low wing car probably would trap higher.
  3. You could also say it's a failure for the GT as it costs half a million and beat the ZR1 by only about 1/2 mph in trap speed.
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Originally Posted by HTXSkydiver


The guy driving the ZR1 is trash as in every other video on that channel. Late on the green, even misses a shift somehow in the third race. What’s obvious is the low wing ZR1 if left to shift on its own would have won fairly easily.

Also, did u see the specs at the beginning?! As compared, the GT is over THREE TIMES the price and even the video says they’re EVENLY MATCHED. Hey UE, how about you be objective for once and eat your words. Lol, you say the ZR1 is “no match” however the video you are using as evidence says the exact opposite. I’d call this a good showing for the ZR1 even though it could have clearly been driven faster. Btw, a YouTube video with poor driving hardly qualifies as “negative press” lmao
You know routine, what the insecure Mustang owners do when they come in Corvette forum!
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Originally Posted by sammy burks
Z was slow to go on the green
That and the low wing car with the manual and cooler weather would have had a different result!
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Originally Posted by 3 Z06ZR1
That and the low wing car with the manual and cooler weather would have had a different result!
We need Farmer to race dragtimes so we can see what the ZR1 is truly capable of against the GT.
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Originally Posted by 3 Z06ZR1
You know routine, what the insecure Mustang owners do when they come in Corvette forum!
Great argument. Anyone who is critical of the car must not be able to afford one. But hey, we can dream.
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Originally Posted by UnhandledException
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ZR1 with its archaic transmission and 1950s heavy front engine/rwd/forced induction/lots of weight architecture is just no match for a mid engine, dual clutch, lightweight GT?

There is just way too much negative press for this car and for everything to be a driver error/bad tires/bad magazine problem is just highly unlikely.

Be objective please.

AND the zr1 has no secondary cats and have a mid pipe. Car easily makes 780hp at crank.
Get some education about cars please.
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Originally Posted by BlueSteel07
We need Farmer to race dragtimes so we can see what the ZR1 is truly capable of against the GT.
Agreed.
Have a look at 1/4 mile comparison info via Farmer Machine testing the cold intake.
https://www.lsxmag.com/news/farmer-m...ld-air-intake/

This is referenced in the cold air intake thread, “Track Testing the ZR1 Cold Air Intake”.

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Old 08-26-2018, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueSteel07
We need Farmer to race dragtimes so we can see what the ZR1 is truly capable of against the GT.
Great idea! I agree!
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Automatic mode doesn’t work good in roll races. The lag from flooring to downshifting seems like forever. I had my best roll race results in manual mode. 40mph in first gear, then floor it, and hit the shift pedal right away. With the transmission lag it will shift at the exact right time. Same with the other gears. Shifting pedal a little bit before redline and it shifts at the right time.
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Originally Posted by sammy burks
Z was slow to go on the green
That and the low wing car with the manual and cooler weather would have had a different result!
The MPH is the indicator of HP in this race and they are dead even. the driver is not the best, weighs alot more than drag times..

As for a manual.. no... it's not quicker even in a roll race.. the gearing IS NOT even close... the A8 is superior in this and actual dead stop drag racing. if he's leaving in 2nd in manual mode then clicking it up into "D" that would be optimal.. nobody knows because there was no camera in the car.. but in prior races this same driver ALWAYS manually shifted and he wasn't good at it. at all.....

That trap speed is horrendous.. maybe he has the wing at a steep attack angle???????????????

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