It's Delivered, Driven and Modified...Initial Thoughts
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DocScott (12-02-2018)
#22
Burning Brakes
Not to me, boost is irrelevant because the cars aren't the same. I can put these same mods on a Z06 and you're still down 100 HP, just like the OEM BHP
But you do bring up a good point though because the Z06 puts down about 10-10.5 PSI we see at 20k blower RPMs making 650 BHP. ZR1 puts down about 14 PSI at 16k blower RPMs making 755 BHP. The ZR1 blower moves about 50% more air per revolution than the Z06 blower; however, with 4k blower RPMs less, the car makes 4 PSI more and 105 BHP more. It just goes to show you, there is a LOT more on the table once you get in. I've ran nearly 20* and an extra 3 PSI to make my 800whp and this is not "fine tuned" by any means LOL. I've tested a lot of what we call in-house "f*ckery" haha playing around with this.
Mark my words, when we get access, this blower setup will make 1000whp with heads/cam/E/ported blower/20 PSI and I have the parts sitting here waiting and going to test our dimple ported (think golf ball) heads since they really shine with port injection to reduce the port wall drag.
I have enough head room at the moment to port the blower, so that might be happening very soon as is too.
But you do bring up a good point though because the Z06 puts down about 10-10.5 PSI we see at 20k blower RPMs making 650 BHP. ZR1 puts down about 14 PSI at 16k blower RPMs making 755 BHP. The ZR1 blower moves about 50% more air per revolution than the Z06 blower; however, with 4k blower RPMs less, the car makes 4 PSI more and 105 BHP more. It just goes to show you, there is a LOT more on the table once you get in. I've ran nearly 20* and an extra 3 PSI to make my 800whp and this is not "fine tuned" by any means LOL. I've tested a lot of what we call in-house "f*ckery" haha playing around with this.
Mark my words, when we get access, this blower setup will make 1000whp with heads/cam/E/ported blower/20 PSI and I have the parts sitting here waiting and going to test our dimple ported (think golf ball) heads since they really shine with port injection to reduce the port wall drag.
I have enough head room at the moment to port the blower, so that might be happening very soon as is too.
#23
Took Delivery of #1057 after what seemed an eternity!
I did notice that when driving in the sport mode the exhaust when not under acceleration load seemed to revert to "quiet" mode until I would accelerate and then would return to its throaty roar. There is a setting the guys at Weapon X showed me that you can open the exhaust to "Track Mode" manually to alleviate this.
I did notice that when driving in the sport mode the exhaust when not under acceleration load seemed to revert to "quiet" mode until I would accelerate and then would return to its throaty roar. There is a setting the guys at Weapon X showed me that you can open the exhaust to "Track Mode" manually to alleviate this.
#24
Melting Slicks
So how can this car be bumped 10-12 % on stock tuning and not be lean?
Tuners claim over and over that the Z06 and Stingray MUST be tuned if they increase power, yet vendors are putting long tube headers, cold air and pulley on this and not tuning it.
Who's full of crap?
Tuners claim over and over that the Z06 and Stingray MUST be tuned if they increase power, yet vendors are putting long tube headers, cold air and pulley on this and not tuning it.
Who's full of crap?
#25
Advanced
Thread Starter
So how can this car be bumped 10-12 % on stock tuning and not be lean?
Tuners claim over and over that the Z06 and Stingray MUST be tuned if they increase power, yet vendors are putting long tube headers, cold air and pulley on this and not tuning it.
Who's full of crap?
Tuners claim over and over that the Z06 and Stingray MUST be tuned if they increase power, yet vendors are putting long tube headers, cold air and pulley on this and not tuning it.
Who's full of crap?
#26
Melting Slicks
I am at my dealership now, and getting the 500-mile oil change done. Diagnostics were run and they show no lean events. I think it would be safe to assume that the computer adjusts by enrichening the air/fuel mixture as it would with density altitude or ambient temperature. Also getting track alignment done today and will report back if it has any effect on wandering sensation. It's not unheard of for cars to be out of alignment from the factory.
#27
Team Owner
#28
Team Owner
Not to me, boost is irrelevant because the cars aren't the same. I can put these same mods on a Z06 and you're still down 100 HP, just like the OEM BHP
But you do bring up a good point though because the Z06 puts down about 10-10.5 PSI we see at 20k blower RPMs making 650 BHP. ZR1 puts down about 14 PSI at 16k blower RPMs making 755 BHP. The ZR1 blower moves about 50% more air per revolution than the Z06 blower; however, with 4k blower RPMs less, the car makes 4 PSI more and 105 BHP more. It just goes to show you, there is a LOT more on the table once you get in. I've ran nearly 20* and an extra 3 PSI to make my 800whp and this is not "fine tuned" by any means LOL. I've tested a lot of what we call in-house "f*ckery" haha playing around with this.
Mark my words, when we get access, this blower setup will make 1000whp with heads/cam/E/ported blower/20 PSI and I have the parts sitting here waiting and going to test our dimple ported (think golf ball) heads since they really shine with port injection to reduce the port wall drag.
I have enough head room at the moment to port the blower, so that might be happening very soon as is too.
But you do bring up a good point though because the Z06 puts down about 10-10.5 PSI we see at 20k blower RPMs making 650 BHP. ZR1 puts down about 14 PSI at 16k blower RPMs making 755 BHP. The ZR1 blower moves about 50% more air per revolution than the Z06 blower; however, with 4k blower RPMs less, the car makes 4 PSI more and 105 BHP more. It just goes to show you, there is a LOT more on the table once you get in. I've ran nearly 20* and an extra 3 PSI to make my 800whp and this is not "fine tuned" by any means LOL. I've tested a lot of what we call in-house "f*ckery" haha playing around with this.
Mark my words, when we get access, this blower setup will make 1000whp with heads/cam/E/ported blower/20 PSI and I have the parts sitting here waiting and going to test our dimple ported (think golf ball) heads since they really shine with port injection to reduce the port wall drag.
I have enough head room at the moment to port the blower, so that might be happening very soon as is too.
#29
Team Owner
I am at my dealership now, and getting the 500-mile oil change done. Diagnostics were run and they show no lean events. I think it would be safe to assume that the computer adjusts by enrichening the air/fuel mixture as it would with density altitude or ambient temperature. Also getting track alignment done today and will report back if it has any effect on wandering sensation. It's not unheard of for cars to be out of alignment from the factory.
Like the Z06 gets a big gain from a certain intake.
What fuel are you running learned that the fuel makes a big difference as well.
My 673 on 92 goes way up when you add 100 octane or a few gallons of E85
to premium unleaded
Now the naysayers will come up with car relearning the mod out like they did on the Z06 which is wrong.
I do think your warranty is gone when the dealer sees the pulley swap thought.
#30
Advanced
Thread Starter
So far just Sunocco 93 I will be putting the car on the track at Barber in November then Daytona and will go 100 octane there. Pully swap according to district service rep would only void the warranty if drive ratio were changed. This pully is simply grooved for less slippage.
#31
Racer
Diffusor
Where did you get your Diffusors? I got mine on Ebay. They fit nice and really add to the back profile of the car. It should have come like this from the factory!
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#32
Drifting
100+ HP with the simple bolt-ons and no tune???
No increase in boost, no LT headers, just a ported TB, an intake tube, an an x-pipe, and a grippier upper pulley...???
You cannot get this kind of power out of a Z06 without headers, more boost, and a tune unless you do a H/C package.
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St. Jude Donor '14
Something doesn't seem right here.
100+ HP with the simple bolt-ons and no tune???
No increase in boost, no LT headers, just a ported TB, an intake tube, an an x-pipe, and a grippier upper pulley...???
You cannot get this kind of power out of a Z06 without headers, more boost, and a tune unless you do a H/C package.
100+ HP with the simple bolt-ons and no tune???
No increase in boost, no LT headers, just a ported TB, an intake tube, an an x-pipe, and a grippier upper pulley...???
You cannot get this kind of power out of a Z06 without headers, more boost, and a tune unless you do a H/C package.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...hp-716wtq.html
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St. Jude Donor '14
Mark M's C7 ZR1 graphs vs. mine
I told you guys I'd get this off the tower with the numbers, so here was Mark's baseline with 300mi vs. his X850 package:
And this is what is the most interesting. This is Mark's X850 package vs. mine. As you can see, this package is no "fluke" as these two cars were nearly identical on power AFTER the mods, but the interesting part I wanted to point out is Mark's ZR1 put down about 670whp with 300 miles on it, and mine with 800 miles on it put down around 690whp?! After the mods, they were the same, so I am wondering if his car broke in on the dyno at WOT after a few pulls with the rings seating more or something because when I saw how much less his car put down on the baseline, I'm not going to lie, I was worried my car was a factory freak and he was going to be disappointed by my claims. But she did exactly what she was supposed to do!
Any of you guys interested in coming in for our ZR1 packages, hit me up!
And this is what is the most interesting. This is Mark's X850 package vs. mine. As you can see, this package is no "fluke" as these two cars were nearly identical on power AFTER the mods, but the interesting part I wanted to point out is Mark's ZR1 put down about 670whp with 300 miles on it, and mine with 800 miles on it put down around 690whp?! After the mods, they were the same, so I am wondering if his car broke in on the dyno at WOT after a few pulls with the rings seating more or something because when I saw how much less his car put down on the baseline, I'm not going to lie, I was worried my car was a factory freak and he was going to be disappointed by my claims. But she did exactly what she was supposed to do!
Any of you guys interested in coming in for our ZR1 packages, hit me up!
#35
Pro
Just ordered the parts I needed to complete Ben's X950 package. Already had the CAI, throttle body, and intake tube installed. Plan to dyno with existing mods and again after the install of the remaining parts. So excited (especially after seeing this post!) to see the end numbers. Very happy with the Weapon X parts already installed. Will post the video when done.
To the OP - congrats on the car and upgrades. Yours is identical to mine.
To the OP - congrats on the car and upgrades. Yours is identical to mine.
The numbers it made with the throttle body and intake tube are pretty crazy for a stock engine and tune.
I'm curious to see what it makes with the rest of the Weapon-X package installed.
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Ben@WeaponX (12-02-2018)
#37
Pro
Im pretty sure this was an A8 and it made 700whp. (I forgot the torque.)
For comparison on the same dyno, we threw every trick in the book at my M7 Z06 including heads and cam (but excluding E85 & Meth) to break 700whp on 93 pump gas.
LT4's don't respond to an intake and TB like that with a stock tune for sure.
For comparison on the same dyno, we threw every trick in the book at my M7 Z06 including heads and cam (but excluding E85 & Meth) to break 700whp on 93 pump gas.
LT4's don't respond to an intake and TB like that with a stock tune for sure.
#38
Le Mans Master
Nice car!