Are ZR1 prices tanking???
10-29-2018, 08:10 AM
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I think the sales will slow down. Most people looking to get these cars read a lot of reviews and talk to a lot of people before hand. This car wasn't a significant enough upgrade to warrant jumping from a Z06. Now that my Z06 is paid off I don't have any desire to step into a ZR1, this is the first time I have felt this way. The platform is maxed out, the Z06 is too much, impossible to launch. It's a fun car, but more power is not what it needs. I think the ZR1 looks better and it is certainly more rare, but after reading reviews and watching youtube, it just doesn't cut the mustard. I doubt most will be able to extrapolate the extra performance on a track that it provides. There is something to be said about being the top dog in a car platform, but at this point, the performance increase doesn't warrant the price. This is just one guys opinion who is the prime demographic for this vehicle.
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10-29-2018, 08:19 AM
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I think the sales will slow down. Most people looking to get these cars read a lot of reviews and talk to a lot of people before hand. This car wasn't a significant enough upgrade to warrant jumping from a Z06. Now that my Z06 is paid off I don't have any desire to step into a ZR1, this is the first time I have felt this way. The platform is maxed out, the Z06 is too much, impossible to launch. It's a fun car, but more power is not what it needs. I think the ZR1 looks better and it is certainly more rare, but after reading reviews and watching youtube, it just doesn't cut the mustard. I doubt most will be able to extrapolate the extra performance on a track that it provides. There is something to be said about being the top dog in a car platform, but at this point, the performance increase doesn't warrant the price. This is just one guys opinion who is the prime demographic for this vehicle.
Greg
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10-29-2018, 12:34 PM
#123
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Not sure how sales can slow down. The entire production run is sold and there are still people begging for allocations... GM did not/will not meet the demand on this vehicle. I believe you are in the minority of Z06 owners however (if they will actually admit it). There are numerous reports from Z06 owners stepping up to the ZR1 and raving about how much better it is. Haven’t seen anyone disappointed yet...
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10-29-2018, 12:43 PM
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10-29-2018, 12:50 PM
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You simply do not know what you are talking about. Period. I find your posts amusing at best. Everyone knows you have a ZR1. And that is great. But they will drop like a rock, when the C8 comes out. And they can be had for a discount NOW.
124,995-20K MILES
129,799-11,335 MILES
129,905-8,561 MILES
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124,995-20K MILES
129,799-11,335 MILES
129,905-8,561 MILES
129,800-812 MILES
134,900-13,155 MILES
129,900- 200 MILES
My OWN ZR1 was listed as FOR SALE on several of those sites 
There have been a few who have relationships with Dealers who paid under MSRP but the listings for new ZRs available under MSRP and discounts are just nothing more than click bait.Doubt the mass produced base model C8 is going to effect the sales of ZRs. I bought it for the power it has and last of the M7 FE so a ME does not interest me.
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10-29-2018, 12:52 PM
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I'm in the 2020 ZR1 camp, but not because of waiting on a $20K discount. Right now these cars are very scarce, especially with popular option configurations. I would much prefer a 2020 ZR1 next summer instead of a 2019 ZR1 in the dead of winters (I spend the winters in Florida, but my car would stay in a garage in the snow belt). I hear you loud and clear, my brain says 2020, my heart says get the 2019! Plan B - C8, but that may be 4-5 years down the road for the hipo version.
10-29-2018, 12:53 PM
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Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against the ZR1, and I do hope that everyone who buys one is 100% satisfied with their purchase for as long as they own it. But I would ask you, knowing that you went from a Z06 to a ZR1, can you give examples of how/where the ZR1 exceeds the Z06 for 99% of your driving?
10-29-2018, 12:55 PM
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I honestly don't think most around here would. Just look at when someone criticizes the car or has anything to say about it, that isn't totally positive and I'm not talking about obvious trolls either.
10-29-2018, 01:12 PM
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I would call BS on that first part.
Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against the ZR1, and I do hope that everyone who buys one is 100% satisfied with their purchase for as long as they own it. But I would ask you, knowing that you went from a Z06 to a ZR1, can you give examples of how/where the ZR1 exceeds the Z06 for 99% of your driving?
Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against the ZR1, and I do hope that everyone who buys one is 100% satisfied with their purchase for as long as they own it. But I would ask you, knowing that you went from a Z06 to a ZR1, can you give examples of how/where the ZR1 exceeds the Z06 for 99% of your driving?
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10-29-2018, 01:25 PM
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Anyone who posts glowing reviews to have people find out otherwise is going to eventually look foolish. I checked with many who upgraded prior to making the decision. I had zero desire to take a major trade in hit so soon. The car is exactly what they claimed. There is a thread detailing my thoughts. Handling and acceleration are two of the biggest factors. The ZR grips the road better and pulls on the high end where the Z06 didn't. Plus all the Carbon fiber and big *** wing, more aggressive front end. Exhaust sounds a lot better too.
Carbon fiber, BAW, front end appearance and exhaust sound are visual/audible changes and I don't think they could be called "better" as they are personal preferences. Now, maybe those visual/audio changes make it worth the cost to someone on their own...and nobody can argue that. In the end, it comes down to what the person laying out the cash likes...and really that is all that matters.
10-29-2018, 02:24 PM
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I would call BS on that first part.
Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against the ZR1, and I do hope that everyone who buys one is 100% satisfied with their purchase for as long as they own it. But I would ask you, knowing that you went from a Z06 to a ZR1, can you give examples of how/where the ZR1 exceeds the Z06 for 99% of your driving?
Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against the ZR1, and I do hope that everyone who buys one is 100% satisfied with their purchase for as long as they own it. But I would ask you, knowing that you went from a Z06 to a ZR1, can you give examples of how/where the ZR1 exceeds the Z06 for 99% of your driving?
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10-29-2018, 03:08 PM
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Auction Prices- wholesale to dealer
Auction prices are exactly that. They are sales to a licensed dealer who has bought into the auction for a fee or owns a "paddle." Published auction prices do not disclose additional seller/ buyer fees (up to 16% on top of published price), title status (ie. salvage, insurance, repo., mechanic lein etc.) They also fluctuaute substantially based on regional market demand or lack thereof.) Unless you are a licensed dealer they mean nothing to the retail public, new or used market. Tantamount to dealer invoice minus H/B on a new vehicle. Just posting a screenshot does nothing to validate one's opinion. As a side note: The auction prices you posted are for a 1ZR trim and I believe a check of the ZR1 registry will show over 90% of the market demand is for the 3ZR trim which has a base price of $10K higher; further diminishing any relevance to the retail market for these auction numbers. I would think most of us would be knowledgeable enough to simply realize GM is deliberately holding future production information close to the vest for their own reasons and rank speculation by the public is exactly the result they desire in order to build demand for their product; present and future. No one actually knows the plan outside GM management. PERIOD.
10-29-2018, 03:29 PM
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Glad you are happy with it! Curious how many of your miles have been on the track to experience all of those improvements? (Only making that assumption because from many, many descriptions of the Z06, it was pretty obvious that you can come nowhere near its performance limits on the street...at least not without seriously endangering others).
Carbon fiber, BAW, front end appearance and exhaust sound are visual/audible changes and I don't think they could be called "better" as they are personal preferences. Now, maybe those visual/audio changes make it worth the cost to someone on their own...and nobody can argue that. In the end, it comes down to what the person laying out the cash likes...and really that is all that matters.
Carbon fiber, BAW, front end appearance and exhaust sound are visual/audible changes and I don't think they could be called "better" as they are personal preferences. Now, maybe those visual/audio changes make it worth the cost to someone on their own...and nobody can argue that. In the end, it comes down to what the person laying out the cash likes...and really that is all that matters.
10-29-2018, 03:45 PM
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Here's the thing; I bought a new ZR1 because I wanted it and I could afford it. I don't track at all. My justification is that I wanted the car and now I have it. If you don't want one or don't like it or won't race it or think modding your Z06 is a better idea or think it's not worth the additional money etc.; just don't buy one. Can anyone really justify owning any Corvette or similar car? All this arguing about it is absurd. Buy what you want or don't, but why question or criticize what others have done or are doing. I am very happy with my new ZR1.
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10-29-2018, 04:43 PM
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Here's the thing; I bought a new ZR1 because I wanted it and I could afford it. I don't track at all. My justification is that I wanted the car and now I have it. If you don't want one or don't like it or won't race it or think modding your Z06 is a better idea or think it's not worth the additional money etc.; just don't buy one. Can anyone really justify owning any Corvette or similar car? All this arguing about it is absurd. Buy what you want or don't, but why question or criticize what others have done or are doing. I am very happy with my new ZR1.
10-30-2018, 06:49 AM
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Here's the thing; I bought a new ZR1 because I wanted it and I could afford it. I don't track at all. My justification is that I wanted the car and now I have it. If you don't want one or don't like it or won't race it or think modding your Z06 is a better idea or think it's not worth the additional money etc.; just don't buy one. Can anyone really justify owning any Corvette or similar car? All this arguing about it is absurd. Buy what you want or don't, but why question or criticize what others have done or are doing. I am very happy with my new ZR1.
10-30-2018, 10:08 AM
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I really like my 2014 Z-51.
I really really like my 2017 ZO7!
With the end of a FE Manual transmission, I now have a ZR1 status 2000! It will be my 4th ZR1. Unless you have or have had one you won't really understand!
I will keep the ZO7 because of the manual transmission!
I simply have a terminal case of "Corvette Fever" and it started back in 1973!
I really really like my 2017 ZO7!
With the end of a FE Manual transmission, I now have a ZR1 status 2000! It will be my 4th ZR1. Unless you have or have had one you won't really understand!
I will keep the ZO7 because of the manual transmission!
I simply have a terminal case of "Corvette Fever" and it started back in 1973!
10-30-2018, 10:11 AM
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i really like my 2014 z-51.
I really really like my 2017 zo7!
With the end of a fe manual transmission, i now have a zr1 status 2000! It will be my 4th zr1. Unless you have or have had one you won't really understand!
I will keep the zo7 because of the manual transmission!
I simply have a terminal case of "corvette fever" and it started back in 1973!
I really really like my 2017 zo7!
With the end of a fe manual transmission, i now have a zr1 status 2000! It will be my 4th zr1. Unless you have or have had one you won't really understand!
I will keep the zo7 because of the manual transmission!
I simply have a terminal case of "corvette fever" and it started back in 1973!
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