Are ZR1 prices tanking???
10-27-2018, 02:01 PM
#101
Burning Brakes
Exactly correct...
QED, as the math wizards say.
For those of you that believe differently please post a picture of your 2020 ZR1 when it arrives and a copy if your sales order showing MSRP - 20,000 and we will all eat crow.
Last edited by Repo Pilot; 10-27-2018 at 02:01 PM.
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10-27-2018, 05:48 PM
#102
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10-27-2018, 05:56 PM
#103
Le Mans Master
I'm in the 2020 ZR1 camp, but not because of waiting on a $20K discount. Right now these cars are very scarce, especially with popular option configurations. I would much prefer a 2020 ZR1 next summer instead of a 2019 ZR1 in the dead of winters (I spend the winters in Florida, but my car would stay in a garage in the snow belt). I hear you loud and clear, my brain says 2020, my heart says get the 2019! Plan B - C8, but that may be 4-5 years down the road for the hipo version.
10-27-2018, 06:19 PM
#104
Note I said slightly below sticker. To clarify, only 5 of the 60 ZR1s were listed "slightly below sticker" (like $3,000 to $5000, not $20,000). That leaves 40 at sticker, and 15 over sticker. I bought a used Z06 using cargurus to locate the car, and didn't find any of those or the C6 ZR1 I also looked at already sold or going for a different price than what was listed at cargurus. I don't know about 2019 ZR1s or dealers claiming to have cars they don't have, but to check the listings, I went directly to a few of the dealer web sites and the ZR1s were still listed as for sale at the stated carguru price.
10-27-2018, 06:25 PM
#106
Race Director
124,995-20K MILES
129,799-11,335 MILES
129,905-8,561 MILES
129,800-812 MILES
134,900-13,155 MILES
129,900- 200 MILES
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10-27-2018, 06:26 PM
#107
Race Director
There has never been a documented case of a ZR1 selling BELOW MSRP. Never, not one. If anyone has bought one under MSRP, let’s see the sales order! What you are seeing is generated out of dealer computers and it’s BOGUS. It is well documented that these cars are mostly already sold when they are listed online and the prices are very inaccurate. My car that was delivered by the NCM and has never been within 300 miles of the selling dealership showed up on their site (and likely car gurus) for sale... I’m sorry but you do not know how this stuff works
10-27-2018, 06:27 PM
#108
Le Mans Master
Can you pm me details?
10-27-2018, 06:39 PM
#109
Wheres the proof?! There is none! I have never seen any evidence of a ZR1 selling under MSRP, period. Way to go, quote fake news from sites like car gurus. The only PROOF of ZR1 sales is eBay. And they are selling for MSRP+ USED (mostly). Go play in the Z06 sandbox please...
10-27-2018, 11:56 PM
#111
Team Owner
You simply do not know what you are talking about. Period. I find your posts amusing at best. Everyone knows you have a ZR1. And that is great. But they will drop like a rock, when the C8 comes out. And they can be had for a discount NOW.
124,995-20K MILES
129,799-11,335 MILES
129,905-8,561 MILES
129,800-812 MILES
134,900-13,155 MILES
129,900- 200 MILES
124,995-20K MILES
129,799-11,335 MILES
129,905-8,561 MILES
129,800-812 MILES
134,900-13,155 MILES
129,900- 200 MILES
Last place they want to show them under MSRP is here.
Last edited by 3 Z06ZR1; 10-28-2018 at 12:02 AM.
10-28-2018, 04:07 AM
#113
I believe that WHEN GM announces the total number of ZR1’s to be produced, that is what will determine the cars short (and eventual long) term values. i.e. If GM announces that production of the ZR1 ceases on 3/31/19 at whatever number they were able to produce, the value of every car already produced would rise and unsold cars would be marked up. If they announce a full 2020 MY will be produced the values would drop. Something in between those two, values stay as is. In my mind, the 3 year run isn’t even a possibility now.
10-28-2018, 06:41 PM
#116
Le Mans Master
Even if there was an extra model year offered, I don’t believe that would impact 2019 prices too much. All C6 Z06 values stayed solid for what felt like an abnormally long time, model year after model year being churned out.I think the new ZR1 will follow that same trend but it’s version will be much more intense (permanent) due to it possibly being just a one year.
Doesnt seem like GM would go forth with all the upgrades it made over the Z06 for just one year, but it’s a different GM these days that knows how to keep making money all those parts used in a one year Super Vette with other cars, not to mention the crate engines available.
Doesnt seem like GM would go forth with all the upgrades it made over the Z06 for just one year, but it’s a different GM these days that knows how to keep making money all those parts used in a one year Super Vette with other cars, not to mention the crate engines available.
10-28-2018, 08:54 PM
#117
Le Mans Master
Even if there was an extra model year offered, I don’t believe that would impact 2019 prices too much. All C6 Z06 values stayed solid for what felt like an abnormally long time, model year after model year being churned out.I think the new ZR1 will follow that same trend but it’s version will be much more intense (permanent) due to it possibly being just a one year.
Doesnt seem like GM would go forth with all the upgrades it made over the Z06 for just one year, but it’s a different GM these days that knows how to keep making money all those parts used in a one year Super Vette with other cars, not to mention the crate engines available.
Doesnt seem like GM would go forth with all the upgrades it made over the Z06 for just one year, but it’s a different GM these days that knows how to keep making money all those parts used in a one year Super Vette with other cars, not to mention the crate engines available.
10-28-2018, 09:28 PM
#118
That is not the case with the C7 Z06's. Local dealer is still advertising a brand new 2017 Z06 (with Z07) for almost $20K off (no takers so far). The used C7 ZR1 will take a steep drop once the C8 hysteria kicks in. Most people don't buy the ZR1 cars however, because of perceived 'investment potential'. In 50 years? they will bring big money, but most of us won't be around to see that.
10-28-2018, 10:06 PM
#119
Racer
I think the sales will slow down. Most people looking to get these cars read a lot of reviews and talk to a lot of people before hand. This car wasn't a significant enough upgrade to warrant jumping from a Z06. Now that my Z06 is paid off I don't have any desire to step into a ZR1, this is the first time I have felt this way. The platform is maxed out, the Z06 is too much, impossible to launch. It's a fun car, but more power is not what it needs. I think the ZR1 looks better and it is certainly more rare, but after reading reviews and watching youtube, it just doesn't cut the mustard. I doubt most will be able to extrapolate the extra performance on a track that it provides. There is something to be said about being the top dog in a car platform, but at this point, the performance increase doesn't warrant the price. This is just one guys opinion who is the prime demographic for this vehicle.
Greg
Greg
10-28-2018, 10:35 PM
#120
I think the sales will slow down. Most people looking to get these cars read a lot of reviews and talk to a lot of people before hand. This car wasn't a significant enough upgrade to warrant jumping from a Z06. Now that my Z06 is paid off I don't have any desire to step into a ZR1, this is the first time I have felt this way. The platform is maxed out, the Z06 is too much, impossible to launch. It's a fun car, but more power is not what it needs. I think the ZR1 looks better and it is certainly more rare, but after reading reviews and watching youtube, it just doesn't cut the mustard. I doubt most will be able to extrapolate the extra performance on a track that it provides. There is something to be said about being the top dog in a car platform, but at this point, the performance increase doesn't warrant the price. This is just one guys opinion who is the prime demographic for this vehicle.
Greg
Greg
Last edited by Rinaldo Catria; 10-28-2018 at 10:46 PM.