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Old 05-27-2019, 09:53 AM
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Both are nice cars! However, the huge pedestal spoiler and wheels of the ZR1 have not grown on me yet. Just personal preference...
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Originally Posted by 01Defense
Both are nice cars! However, the huge pedestal spoiler and wheels of the ZR1 have not grown on me yet. Just personal preference...
The wing looks awesome, perfect for the car! Besides, have you seen one without a wing?


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Lol.. any C7 without a rear spoiler would look hideous.
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The ZR1 like a 1/10 second quicker with a pro driver. I have driven both and I own a C7 Z06 wz07 and my experience is on the street between those 2, I'll take the Z06 in a heart beat. The Z06 is a handful on the street and is hard to utilize the power in that environment. The ZR1 on the street is even worse to control.. there's a reason people prefer the Grand Sport, way easier to concentrate on fast when your not fighting the car for control.. easier to be smooth. Smooth wins races not explosive out of control blasting. Most of what is posted out there is not by everyday driver run of the mill people.. Everyday people will rarely ever get those numbers and most don't even try. The ZR has not grown on me at all either, as another poster stated.. I know the aero works just like on the Z06 aero does, but it's just too exaggerated for my tastes, the cars lines are too broken up by the intakes and I like to actually see my engine. With the C8 on the horizon most have no reason to get the ZR1 as it's way over the "usable" everyday drivability level.. just for cruise night braggin' maybe. To get more HP to the ground the newer design of mid engine should help. It will be 4 years or so until they get it good, and make an actual higher HP type car, so I'll just stay with my Z06. until a real improvement is made. I was considering the Akrapovic Titanium exhaust and a few things.. heard one and loved the sound of them. I hope everyone is happy with their rides no matter what they are... everyone has their opinions, but insulting someone to prove some point is pointless in my book... be happy
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Originally Posted by fatsport
The wing looks awesome, perfect for the car! Besides, have you seen one without a wing?

looks like a stingray, just different hood and bumper.
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Originally Posted by Gixxerman
The ZR1 like a 1/10 second quicker with a pro driver. I have driven both and I own a C7 Z06 wz07 and my experience is on the street between those 2, I'll take the Z06 in a heart beat. The Z06 is a handful on the street and is hard to utilize the power in that environment. The ZR1 on the street is even worse to control.. there's a reason people prefer the Grand Sport, way easier to concentrate on fast when your not fighting the car for control.. easier to be smooth. Smooth wins races not explosive out of control blasting. Most of what is posted out there is not by everyday driver run of the mill people.. Everyday people will rarely ever get those numbers and most don't even try. The ZR has not grown on me at all either, as another poster stated.. I know the aero works just like on the Z06 aero does, but it's just too exaggerated for my tastes, the cars lines are too broken up by the intakes and I like to actually see my engine. With the C8 on the horizon most have no reason to get the ZR1 as it's way over the "usable" everyday drivability level.. just for cruise night braggin' maybe. To get more HP to the ground the newer design of mid engine should help. It will be 4 years or so until they get it good, and make an actual higher HP type car, so I'll just stay with my Z06. until a real improvement is made. I was considering the Akrapovic Titanium exhaust and a few things.. heard one and loved the sound of them. I hope everyone is happy with their rides no matter what they are... everyone has their opinions, but insulting someone to prove some point is pointless in my book... be happy
755 H.P. is only 755 H.P. when you want it to be 755 H.P. Just like your Z06's 650. Yes, the 7 G.S. owners in America who would honestly rather maintain ownership of such over a ZR1 with no exchange of money as you noted is respectable. But you failed to mention (so I will) the thousands of G.S. , stingray and Z06 owners who WOULD prefer a ZR1. Are you honestly not one of them?
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Originally Posted by rob62
755 H.P. is only 755 H.P. when you want it to be 755 H.P. Just like your Z06's 650. Yes, the 7 G.S. owners in America who would honestly rather maintain ownership of such over a ZR1 with no exchange of money as you noted is respectable. But you failed to mention (so I will) the thousands of G.S. , stingray and Z06 owners who WOULD prefer a ZR1. Are you honestly not one of them?

Truthfully not interested in a ZR1 personally, many things I just do not care for. I will wait and see a few years down the road if the C8 pans out and they release a Z06 type version. It would not make sense to purchase one now, unless maybe your a collector. I guess you might be amused, but one thing I absolutely despise are the ZR1 wheels..fugly for me. If I was interested in a ZR1 I would already be buying new wheels before I picked it up.. lol .. too much $$ to replace, sorry that there are some that just don't care for the ZR1.. I definitely can't get past the giant wing, and you would want it if u have that car, but where I grew up there is a stigma attached to the KMart wing, bolted to your monte carlo trunk look...different strokes for different folks.
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Originally Posted by Gixxerman
but where I grew up there is a stigma attached to the KMart wing, bolted to your monte carlo trunk look...different strokes for different folks.
Kmart wing? Monte Carlo trunk look? Oh, you are referring to the functional wing on the far superior car, quicker, faster ZR1. Got it. Sometimes it takes me awhile.

"Different strokes for different folks"

"Those wheels would be coming off"

"Can't use all the power of the Z06 anyway, what good is 100 more?"

"I despise that front end"

Don't these guys have any new material? Honestly, it is like the same four or five opinions keep rearing their ugly little heads.
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Originally Posted by d16dcoe45
Kmart wing? Monte Carlo trunk look? Oh, you are referring to the functional wing on the far superior car, quicker, faster ZR1. Got it. Sometimes it takes me awhile.

"Different strokes for different folks"

"Those wheels would be coming off"

"Can't use all the power of the Z06 anyway, what good is 100 more?"

"I despise that front end"

Don't these guys have any new material? Honestly, it is like the same four or five opinions keep rearing their ugly little heads.

Has Poster priced the cost of that wing plus the hardware it is attached to ? The "wheels are too expensive to replace" is a BIG give away he can't afford the ZR.
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Old 05-28-2019, 11:15 AM
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The ZR1 is not for you, and that is ok. I have to say I love my ZTK ZR1 - The big wing for me and the completely different front end makes the car look way more aggressive than the C7 Z06. To me, in my opinion, the C7 Z06 looks great, but dated next to a ZR1.



Originally Posted by Gixxerman
Truthfully not interested in a ZR1 personally, many things I just do not care for. I will wait and see a few years down the road if the C8 pans out and they release a Z06 type version. It would not make sense to purchase one now, unless maybe your a collector. I guess you might be amused, but one thing I absolutely despise are the ZR1 wheels..fugly for me. If I was interested in a ZR1 I would already be buying new wheels before I picked it up.. lol .. too much $$ to replace, sorry that there are some that just don't care for the ZR1.. I definitely can't get past the giant wing, and you would want it if u have that car, but where I grew up there is a stigma attached to the KMart wing, bolted to your monte carlo trunk look...different strokes for different folks.
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When I first saw the ZR1, I wasn't a fan. I too thought it was a ricer wing. But it has grown on me, and now the car looks naked without the ZTK package. It looks awesome.
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Old 05-28-2019, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by DebRedZR1

Has Poster priced the cost of that wing plus the hardware it is attached to ? The "wheels are too expensive to replace" is a BIG give away he can't afford the ZR.
I don't have the money for the ZR1 myself, but I know without a shadow of a doubt it is the greatest and most capable American sportscar ever manufactured. It is simply ridiculous (in a good way!) on every level!

And the ZR1 wheels are functional, and traditional and define the car. The Z06 wheels are innocuous, and that is the best I can say about them.
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The Z06 wheels are innocuous, and that is the best I can say about them.[/QUOTE]

To each their own my 17 Z06 black wheels are one of the reasons I was drawn to the car..Freaking' Gorgeous!!. I would put them on every car simply amazing. ZR1 well I guess they kinda look like the ones on the original ZR1.. but I like great looking modern, not nostalgia.. I LOVE my Z and wish you well



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I own both Zo6 and ZR1 I must put my two cents in. The ZR1 looks, drives, handles a lot different than my ZO6 and is quite a bit faster. It really is a different car not just a bigger blower. You have to get in one then the other to really appreciate all the differences.
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I'll find out tomorrow. Driving 700 miles today in my 2015 Z06/Z07 to Ohio to swap for a black M7, ZTK ZR1, then drive the ZR1 700 miles back home to CT. Even though I'll just be breaking it in, I'll hopefully be able to get a nice feel for the car after that long ride.
So we completed our adventure. Myself, my fiancee and our dachshund Molly drove 730 miles from CT to Joseph Chevrolet in Cincinnati, OH in our 2015 Z07 (black, M7 3LZ, pulley, intake, tune), traded for a 2019 ZR1 (black, 1ZR, ZTK, M7), then drove the 730 miles back home. Now I can't actually speak much about performance as I was breaking the car in and had a wiener dog as a passenger, lol, but there is a significant difference between the two cars. More than I expected. First thing you notice is the sound, this car stock is at least as loud as my Z06 was with the xpipe, maybe even louder. It also has a different tone to it and crackles and pops on decel, which I love. Next thing you notice is the ride quality. I had the suspension update done to my Z06 and 15 minutes into the ride home my fiancee comments on how much more comfortable the ZR1 is over bumps. And at the time, the ZR1 was in the SPORT mode! We had just done the whole Z06 trip in Tour mode... so it's a pretty big improvement. Not sure if there was a hardware change between 15 and 19 for the mag shocks or if this is all software, but I was quite impressed. And lastly, just the look of the car is impressive. Parking it, looking over the giant carbon hood, seeing the uprights of the ZTK wing through the rear view mirror, it's just sinister and imposing. If you like the idea of race cars for the road, the package just works, especially in person.

This was just a quick first impression, I'm finishing up my paint correction now (Joseph Chevrolet did a FANTASTIC job prepping the car, the paint needed way less work than most new cars, they really took care with it!) then it's going to Automobilia for a full Xpel/Ceramic Pro PPF treatment. Then a first oil change, lowering and alignment... THEN I can FINALLY start driving the stupid thing! Once I get some real time behind the wheel I'm sure I'll make a more detailed post going over the differences from my Z06.
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^^^^ Congrats and nice comparison. I loved my Z , after driving both back to back you KNOW why the ZR is preferable Enjoy!
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Sorry after owning a 2016 Z06/Z07 and a 2017 Z06/Z07 and now a 2019 ZR1, it's not even CLOSE. I am sure someone can DRIVE any car and not be that impressed, but own both cars, drive them on the same roads everyday, back to back, one was clearly better. It sure was not a better price deal than my Z06's, but for pure performance and handling, on the roads I drive the ZR1 is WAY in front of my Z06's



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My ZR1 is a vastly improved car over my 2017 Z06/07. To suggest it’s simply a bigger blower and a few more horsepower is an unfortunate lack of knowledge. The ZR1 (for me) is the car that the Z06 was supposed to be, but wasn’t. To suggest that 755 horsepower is too much and uncontrollable on the street is obvious but meaningless... 640 hp is too much... 460 is too much... anything that will exceed the speed limit is, by that reasoning, too much. If you can do a burnout then it must be too much, lol.

Frankly, my ZR1 is a better street drive than my Z06 was... suspension tune, transmission tune, etc. Is better. Low speed power doesn’t really feel that much different... but as the rpm rises you really feel the ZR1 pull harder and faster... so from a daily driver street perspective, no less controllable.

Price wise, the car has a lot of additional carbon fibre (not cheap)... extra cooling (which if bought aftermarket for my Z06 would have cost me well over $10,000 and still wouldn’t have solved all the issues as well as the ZR1 did)... more power... stronger engine components, tons more aero (which I utilities on track)... and last but not least, bragging rights to owning the ultimate version of the C7 and the last of the FE Super Corvettes.

It’s not for everyone... that’s fine... enjoy whatever model turns your crank... I do


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Originally Posted by BillY2KFRC
So we completed our adventure. Myself, my fiancee and our dachshund Molly drove 730 miles from CT to Joseph Chevrolet in Cincinnati, OH in our 2015 Z07 (black, M7 3LZ, pulley, intake, tune), traded for a 2019 ZR1 (black, 1ZR, ZTK, M7), then drove the 730 miles back home. Now I can't actually speak much about performance as I was breaking the car in and had a wiener dog as a passenger, lol, but there is a significant difference between the two cars. More than I expected. First thing you notice is the sound, this car stock is at least as loud as my Z06 was with the xpipe, maybe even louder. It also has a different tone to it and crackles and pops on decel, which I love. Next thing you notice is the ride quality. I had the suspension update done to my Z06 and 15 minutes into the ride home my fiancee comments on how much more comfortable the ZR1 is over bumps. And at the time, the ZR1 was in the SPORT mode! We had just done the whole Z06 trip in Tour mode... so it's a pretty big improvement. Not sure if there was a hardware change between 15 and 19 for the mag shocks or if this is all software, but I was quite impressed. And lastly, just the look of the car is impressive. Parking it, looking over the giant carbon hood, seeing the uprights of the ZTK wing through the rear view mirror, it's just sinister and imposing. If you like the idea of race cars for the road, the package just works, especially in person.

This was just a quick first impression, I'm finishing up my paint correction now (Joseph Chevrolet did a FANTASTIC job prepping the car, the paint needed way less work than most new cars, they really took care with it!) then it's going to Automobilia for a full Xpel/Ceramic Pro PPF treatment. Then a first oil change, lowering and alignment... THEN I can FINALLY start driving the stupid thing! Once I get some real time behind the wheel I'm sure I'll make a more detailed post going over the differences from my Z06.
The zr1 has the non-z07 shocks after GM realized they were overkill. That's why.
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In MHO - the ZR1 is a phenomenal torque monster that rides and handles like no other C7 I have ever driven hard to include the Z06-07.

I have only done one launch from a standing start with the ZR. That was enough to teach me that is not what the car was designed to do unless you make a sizeable investment in the wheels, tires, etc. required to make it hook up.

But my WeaponX equipped ZR so far has annihilated every German and Italian 'super car' (and every Z06) I've come side-to-side with on the freeway where there is enough room ahead to do a 70-150 full hammer down pull.

Supercharged Torque = Acceleration. Instant. Freaking vision-blurring awesome.

I personally like this car better than any German or Italian high-performance vehicle I have ever owned or driven. And its going to be awhile before GM comes up with a C8 that can go head-to-head with the ZR.

Is it perfect? No. What car is? This is also a car that you cannot just drive a couple of times and think you've got it figured out.

And at every "display event" I take this car to, the ZR is surrounded by a crowd of those who are actually seeing it for the first time. Even Porsche, Lambo and Mac owners hahaha.

I've also never heard anyone say they thought it was ugly especially now that so many others are sporting the ZR1 inspired front ends.

My two cents as an owner/driver anyway...

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