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Old 12-24-2018, 04:48 PM
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Amazing how some of us have made it through life without "decontaminating" our cars.
well then, using that logic then there is no need to wash your vehicle then is there.
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So you spend all this time writing down the differences and then don't post the pictures after the washes.....fail....lol
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So you spend all this time writing down the differences and then don't post the pictures after the washes.....fail....lol
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I suppose I could have posted about 30 pics of the actual techniques used during the washes. I thought that might be a little tedious though since this is a “differences” thread and not a “how-to” thread.

I’m happy to post pics of the “after” state of both cars. However that will just show two kick-*** apex predator Corvettes with tremendous shine and reflectivity. It really will not help though for discussing the differences encountered while washing, drying and detailing the two cars.

Would you you like me to write up a how-to thread with lots of pictures on proper washing techniques for these cars? Maybe a full length motion picture?
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well then, using that logic then there is no need to wash your vehicle then is there.
I wash my cars on a very regular basis followed by a once over with pink Adams Detail Spray, works fantastic. My cars look like new pretty much all of the time and I have never had to do any extensive decontaminating and don't see any need for all of that.
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I wash my cars on a very regular basis followed by a once over with pink Adams Detail Spray, works fantastic. My cars look like new pretty much all of the time and I have never had to do any extensive decontaminating and don't see any need for all of that.
After you next wash and detail spray, take a plastic sandwich bag and put your fingers in it. Lightly move your fingers over the surface of the hood. Let us know if you feel bumps while doing this. Same goes for the glass. If you feel bumps you have contamination.
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I wash my cars on a very regular basis followed by a once over with pink Adams Detail Spray, works fantastic. My cars look like new pretty much all of the time and I have never had to do any extensive decontaminating and don't see any need for all of that.
You can wash your car 3 times very thoroughly but if you do not clay I guarantee there is still crude on your paint. I have done this. Clay properly and you will actually see particles the clay bar picks up. You can feel it in the clay when you kneed it. Also, a regular wash does not wash away tree sap. I have washed cars and afterward I can still feel the tree sap on the paint surface with my hand. If you do not get rid of the sap it will eventually harden and cause spots on your paint. Putting a wax coat over these contaniments do nothing but mask these defects. 99.9% of professional detailers use iron and mechanical decontanmenation. You think they are all wrong? How about opening your mind to learning something from the pros. Don't be so thick headed.
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You can wash your car 3 times very thoroughly but if you do not clay I guarantee there is still crude on your paint. I have done this. Clay properly and you will actually see particles the clay bar picks up. You can feel it in the clay when you kneed it. Also, a regular wash does not wash away tree sap. I have washed cars and afterward I can still feel the tree sap on the paint surface with my hand. If you do not get rid of the sap it will eventually harden and cause spots on your paint. Putting a wax coat over these contaniments do nothing but mask these defects. 99.9% of professional detailers use iron and mechanical decontanmenation. You think they are all wrong? How about opening your mind to learning something from the pros. Don't be so thick headed.
I guess I'm not anywhere near the perfectionist that some of you guys are. My cars look absolutely fantastic with regular washing and detail spray. If they weren't looking showroom or better I might consider some of this "decontamination" business but absolutely no need for any of it as none of my cars are black. Quite honestly life is a little too short to worry about some microscopic crap in your clear coat.
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I guess I'm not anywhere near the perfectionist that some of you guys are. My cars look absolutely fantastic with regular washing and detail spray. If they weren't looking showroom or better I might consider some of this "decontamination" business but absolutely no need for any of it as none of my cars are black. Quite honestly life is a little too short to worry about some microscopic crap in your clear coat.
OK, since you don't decontaminate then this is what's on your paint. If you keep your car long enough it will eventually degrade the paint. I promise you, you have this stuff beneath your wax right now. The clay shows the crud after a good wash The red streaks in the other pic is from iron particles in the air that imbed in the paint surface. Your car has this iron also. You can't wash it off. It comes from brake pads, yours and other vehicles on the road.




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What is "paint decontamination"?
To fully understand paint decontamination - the next time you wash your car and you feel it is clean and as perfect as you can get it, take a plastic bag, put your hand in it, and gently run it across your paints surface. All those little bumps and scratching sound you hear are the contaminants everyone is mentioning. You'll be surprised what is left after a good washing with a quality soap and mitt.

Check out youtube for some informative videos.

Yes, it's an extra step for us perfectionists (two bucket method, grit guards, microfiber, etc). Yet, the results yield an insanely deeper, wetter, more glossy paint.
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You know what....everyone has their level of car upkeep. I encourage you all to do the "sandwich bag test". It's a very telltale exercise.


But what I find disheartening is that people who don't want to do the more extensive steps are just blowing off the ones who do it as a non-worthwhile venture.


If you don't want to go thru extensive steps....fine. But don't discount others who do.
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You know what....everyone has their level of car upkeep. I encourage you all to do the "sandwich bag test". It's a very telltale exercise.


But what I find disheartening is that people who don't want to do the more extensive steps are just blowing off the ones who do it as a non-worthwhile venture.


If you don't want to go thru extensive steps....fine. But don't discount others who do.
Even more so. Making fun of those who do. I am not that hard core, but I applaud those who are! We have enough negativity in this world. No need to add to it here. Merry Christmas all!
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Richard,

I suppose I could have posted about 30 pics of the actual techniques used during the washes. I thought that might be a little tedious though since this is a “differences” thread and not a “how-to” thread.

I’m happy to post pics of the “after” state of both cars. However that will just show two kick-*** apex predator Corvettes with tremendous shine and reflectivity. It really will not help though for discussing the differences encountered while washing, drying and detailing the two cars.

Would you you like me to write up a how-to thread with lots of pictures on proper washing techniques for these cars? Maybe a full length motion picture?
I just thought one would like to show their work after such effort, but it seems like you would just prefer to tell us tell us how different if was to wash and dry cars...whatev....
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I just thought one would like to show their work after such effort, but it seems like you would just prefer to tell us tell us how different if was to wash and dry cars...whatev....
And the name of this thread is ...
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And the name of this thread is ...
yep..whatever dude....
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Been washing and waxing cars, boats, and motorcycles for close to 50 years with fabulous results, never knew that I had it all wrong. Too bad I can't go back and "decontaminate" them all. LOL!
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Alright....we've sunk to a LOT of negativity here. Either we keep it on the "up and up" and get back on topic or I can just close the thread.


I'll also let you guys know that I'm getting quite a few Report Posts about all the negativity about a couple specific members in this thread. It's Christmas....again, no one is wrong here. But EVERYONE can still learn from others.....
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you hate these cars, they're ugly, everyone who buys one at msrp is dumb, and this poor guy who dares to share his passion for maintaining his car is a toad. What gives? Were you beaten as a child? No doubt, you're going to get a lump of coal tomorrow.
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You can wash your car 3 times very thoroughly but if you do not clay I guarantee there is still crude on your paint. I have done this. Clay properly and you will actually see particles the clay bar picks up. You can feel it in the clay when you kneed it. Also, a regular wash does not wash away tree sap. I have washed cars and afterward I can still feel the tree sap on the paint surface with my hand. If you do not get rid of the sap it will eventually harden and cause spots on your paint. Putting a wax coat over these contaniments do nothing but mask these defects. 99.9% of professional detailers use iron and mechanical decontanmenation. You think they are all wrong? How about opening your mind to learning something from the pros. Don't be so thick headed.
For those that would like to learn how to get the best surface look of your paint follow the advice offered by those on this thread for proper paint treatment. That includes clay barring the surface to decontaminate the paint surface first. You don't have to do this every time you polish the car (I use zaino). I am not a weekend waxer as such. I drive my vettes in the rain, occasional snow and ice and have even hit a gravel drive here and there. I have a sandblasted windshield on my track Z06 but I still like to clean it up correctly. I flood water from top to bottom. I use the correct mitt for the top portions of the car and another for the bottom panels. I use another for the wheels. I use a good car wash detergent. I use a bucket with grit barrier in bottom. If you take the time to do it you may as well do it correctly. At one time I had three high mileage black vehicles and they all looked great even with the sun shining directly on them. No brillo pad scratched paint look on any of them.

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For those that would like to learn how to get the best surface look of your paint follow the advice offered by those on this thread for proper paint treatment. That includes clay barring the surface to decontaminate the paint surface first. You don't have to do this every time you polish the car (I use zaino). I am not a weekend waxer as such. I drive my vettes in the rain, occasional snow and ice and have even hit a gravel drive here and there. I have a sandblasted windshield on my track Z06 but I still like to clean it up correctly. I flood water from top to bottom. I use the correct mitt for the top portions of the car and another for the bottom panels. I use another for the wheels. I use a good car wash detergent. I use a bucket with grit barrier in bottom. If you take the time to do it you may as well do it correctly. At one time I had three high mileage black vehicles and they all looked great even with the sun shining directly on them. No brillo pad scratched paint look on any of them.
Yeah, I think we get it at this point. You know more about washing a car than the rest of us. Good for you. I doubt if there are many of here who need to be told how to wash a car. One does NOT need a clay bar, ceramic coating or any one of the hundreds of products that are currently marketed in this arena.
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