Factory paint and panel defects on new ZR1
#21
Your "POS" ZR1 that the overwhelming majority of owners love and rave about is a street legal vehicle and NOT a race car. Possibly you should have had someone build you a purpose built track car. You whining **** nit pickers are expecting a perfect show car, grocery getter, and competition track monster all in one. Doesn't work that way in the real world.Sell the damn car if you dislike it that much.
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I have a few issues my self. The bumper does not align properly and there are 2 cracks above each head light.
I pointed them out on delivery but my sales advisor told me most of the vehicles have issues on those spots and better to leave them as it is than paint the whole front. It is what it is, doesn’t bother me...
I pointed them out on delivery but my sales advisor told me most of the vehicles have issues on those spots and better to leave them as it is than paint the whole front. It is what it is, doesn’t bother me...
Your Sales advisor needs a CLUE! The bumpers had the same issue on the C6's . It can be adjusted.. Both my C6s had it and my C7Z but not the C7ZR The cracks and other issues are UNACCEPTABLE!
OP. I have the same "pimple" but on the pass side same spot.
if you push on it does it feel like something is on the underside and pressed right up against it?
I suspect mine is a bracket or bolt etc pushing up on the header.
My car is a 16 Z06 but it's gray and you only notice that pimple look from low angles. Opposite of yours with bright paint.
I was going to have it addressed but never did.
I'm still covered under b2b but I am hesitant to mess with it personally.
if you push on it does it feel like something is on the underside and pressed right up against it?
I suspect mine is a bracket or bolt etc pushing up on the header.
My car is a 16 Z06 but it's gray and you only notice that pimple look from low angles. Opposite of yours with bright paint.
I was going to have it addressed but never did.
I'm still covered under b2b but I am hesitant to mess with it personally.
My internal thoughts about my ZR1 when everyone askes me about, I just say it’s a fast POS... my car is pretty awful, massive list of imperfections AND my car went through audit!!! It’s time for a new factory and new hires. Just sickens me and GM doesn’t care, that’s the worst part.
I also smacked all 4 fender liners during my heat cycles on track? Like WTF, I barely loaded the suspension. This car is a joke...I don’t “love” my ZR1.
Sorry you’re having issues as well....GM needs to start secret shopping other manufacturers ownership experiences.
I also smacked all 4 fender liners during my heat cycles on track? Like WTF, I barely loaded the suspension. This car is a joke...I don’t “love” my ZR1.
Sorry you’re having issues as well....GM needs to start secret shopping other manufacturers ownership experiences.
I have ZERO use for calling Chevy Customer service and expecting help.
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#23
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I find it very hard to believe that some here have the scores of issues that they claim to have with a brand new Corvette. I've owned 10 Corvettes over the past 34 years and have never had a single issue of any kind with any of them and my first was an '84. The whiners and **** fist pounders who post about 10 or 15 major issues with a new Corvette are either crazy or just haters making it up.
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I find it very hard to believe that some here have the scores of issues that they claim to have with a brand new Corvette. I've owned 10 Corvettes over the past 34 years and have never had a single issue of any kind with any of them and my first was an '84. The whiners and **** fist pounders who post about 10 or 15 major issues with a new Corvette are either crazy or just haters making it up.
You are very fortunate to have not had to deal with anything.
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I have 3 Corvettes. The panel fit and paint on the C3 is average at best for any production car of its day. I would judge the Torch Red ‘10 GS to be very very good and the WGG ZR1 to be excellent.. I’ve been all over every square inch of these cars as I hand wash, wax and polish them myself often. No complaints here.
#26
The fact that quality is hit or miss proves the point that the issue is NOT the material quality OR engineering but rather the workmenship quality. I wholeheartedly believe some cars have no issues. They are probably put together by more experienced assembly workers. But then some cars are not that way. That shows me there is a variation in the quality of the assembly workers.
My car has quite obvious panel alignment issues. It also has quite obvious internal panel issues.
Then there are issues with these carbon fiber parts. I think the fact that they are hand made adds to the problem.
So when you compound the assembly line issues to the carbon fiber issues then you end up with a dozen issues on a brand new car.
The experience with the chevy dealerships has been quite absymal. As I said, the last dealer I visited flat out argued with me about my car being not stock and that there is no corvette with a wing. I had to spend 10 minutes to convince them which ended with an embarrassing moment.
My car has quite obvious panel alignment issues. It also has quite obvious internal panel issues.
Then there are issues with these carbon fiber parts. I think the fact that they are hand made adds to the problem.
So when you compound the assembly line issues to the carbon fiber issues then you end up with a dozen issues on a brand new car.
The experience with the chevy dealerships has been quite absymal. As I said, the last dealer I visited flat out argued with me about my car being not stock and that there is no corvette with a wing. I had to spend 10 minutes to convince them which ended with an embarrassing moment.
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Your "POS" ZR1 that the overwhelming majority of owners love and rave about is a street legal vehicle and NOT a race car. Possibly you should have had someone build you a purpose built track car. You whining **** nit pickers are expecting a perfect show car, grocery getter, and competition track monster all in one. Doesn't work that way in the real world.Sell the damn car if you dislike it that much.
If I'm buying a street car, I expect my paint to match, my fenders to line up and my paint not to crack. This is 2019- it's not hard to get body panels right. Literally, everyone else does it on cars that cost a fraction as much. It shouldn't be this hard.
The fact that quality is hit or miss proves the point that the issue is NOT the material quality OR engineering but rather the workmenship quality. I wholeheartedly believe some cars have no issues. They are probably put together by more experienced assembly workers. But then some cars are not that way. That shows me there is a variation in the quality of the assembly workers.
My car has quite obvious panel alignment issues. It also has quite obvious internal panel issues.
Then there are issues with these carbon fiber parts. I think the fact that they are hand made adds to the problem.
So when you compound the assembly line issues to the carbon fiber issues then you end up with a dozen issues on a brand new car.
The experience with the chevy dealerships has been quite absymal. As I said, the last dealer I visited flat out argued with me about my car being not stock and that there is no corvette with a wing. I had to spend 10 minutes to convince them which ended with an embarrassing moment.
My car has quite obvious panel alignment issues. It also has quite obvious internal panel issues.
Then there are issues with these carbon fiber parts. I think the fact that they are hand made adds to the problem.
So when you compound the assembly line issues to the carbon fiber issues then you end up with a dozen issues on a brand new car.
The experience with the chevy dealerships has been quite absymal. As I said, the last dealer I visited flat out argued with me about my car being not stock and that there is no corvette with a wing. I had to spend 10 minutes to convince them which ended with an embarrassing moment.
My Grand Sport has body gaps in the rear that aren't acceptable. I tried to adjust it myself and it didn't get better. I touched a wall (barely) and had to get a new OEM bumper. It got a LOT better, but still had gaps. 6 months later, some jackass hit it in a parking lot. They took the bumper off, repainted it and it had the exact same body gaps. It's the parts and/or design causing it.
and it's not the hand made carbon parts people are complaining about for the most part. It's the bumper lining up to the quarter panels. The paint on my rear vent scoops is noticably different than the quarter panels. GM said it's just the different angle of the light. Me and my service advisor were baffled. It's yellower.
Last edited by village idiot; 02-05-2019 at 04:30 PM.
#28
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What is it with you guys, did you not take one minute to look over your $150,000 car before you paid for it? Unmatched color, paint chipped, grossly misaligned body panels. You did not see any of that stuff?
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#30
Le Mans Master
I didn't see my car (granted not a ZR1) before it was delivered. IDK, I'm buying a new car. I don't need to see it in person. I expect that my pant isn't cracking.
#31
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True, but wouldn't you have the opportunity to refuse acceptance of delivery? I can't remember the fine print on a new sales order. Dealer would predictably offer to repair it but then at least 50% of the time wouldn't be able to correct it 100%. Still should be able to refuse it, right? If GM got enough of this back, they will step up the quality checks at the factory. Not all of this issues are assembly problems; most of it would be supplier problems. If plastic body panels are not straight, square, or are over/under sized, no amount of adjustment can fix that. Final QC should include a check of these panel gaps and paint and pulled aside if one fails so defective panels can be pulled off and sent back. This would present headaches for GM and the suppliers but should motivate them to step it up if the buyers push back at the dealership level.
#32
I have a few issues my self. The bumper does not align properly and there are 2 cracks above each head light.
I pointed them out on delivery but my sales advisor told me most of the vehicles have issues on those spots and better to leave them as it is than paint the whole front. It is what it is, doesn’t bother me...
I pointed them out on delivery but my sales advisor told me most of the vehicles have issues on those spots and better to leave them as it is than paint the whole front. It is what it is, doesn’t bother me...
#33
Imagine a GT3 being delivered in this condition. Well actually I cant imagine a GT3 being delivered in this condition so I dont know how to complete that sentence
#35
I find it very hard to believe that some here have the scores of issues that they claim to have with a brand new Corvette. I've owned 10 Corvettes over the past 34 years and have never had a single issue of any kind with any of them and my first was an '84. The whiners and **** fist pounders who post about 10 or 15 major issues with a new Corvette are either crazy or just haters making it up.
#37
The quarter to rocker joint gap is somewhat common. You can adjust it by loosening all the quarter screws (4-5 under hatch, 3 in door jamb, one bolt under fender liner holding quarter to rocker. You have to hold it just right and tighten the lower door jamb screw first and then the bolt inside wheel well with liner out. After than you can do all the rest. These are composite panels and the torque specs are like 28 in/lbs... I do finger tight/snug with my torx driver, no ratchet handle. They don't do this at the plant... they set the quarters on and tighten and some end up like yours. On my 2014 I actually had to pull the passenger side quarter and take a dremel to a high spot on the underside of the panel stopping it from lining up.
I personally would have refused delivery. That's 100% not normal. If you follow C7s the 2014-2017s have issues with paint peeling where the bumpers meet the fenders, but it peels on the bumper side. That is a paint defect on the actual fender. Also the bumper to fender alignment inboard of the headlight is very poor.
Makes me sad to see this as I want to buy a new C8 and was hoping the plant's move to the skillet system and the new paint shop and fixed all this. They slowed the production rates down and moved to the skillets so the chassis was loaded while they were installing body panels to increase alignment accuracy... but I keep seeing 2019s with the same old issues.
I have a few issues my self. The bumper does not align properly and there are 2 cracks above each head light.
I pointed them out on delivery but my sales advisor told me most of the vehicles have issues on those spots and better to leave them as it is than paint the whole front. It is what it is, doesn’t bother me...
I pointed them out on delivery but my sales advisor told me most of the vehicles have issues on those spots and better to leave them as it is than paint the whole front. It is what it is, doesn’t bother me...
Makes me sad to see this as I want to buy a new C8 and was hoping the plant's move to the skillet system and the new paint shop and fixed all this. They slowed the production rates down and moved to the skillets so the chassis was loaded while they were installing body panels to increase alignment accuracy... but I keep seeing 2019s with the same old issues.
Last edited by RapidC84B; 02-08-2019 at 02:19 PM.
#38
I wonder if this is a function of ZR1 panel production not being fully sorted. Panel misalignment and paint flaws were seen regularly on old plant C7s in earlier MYs, but new Stingrays, Z06s, and GSs coming out of the new plant have been pretty good. I haven't heard complaints recently about paint and panel problems on the other new plant C7 models, but we used to hear it a lot.
My new plant car is essentially perfect with regard to paint quality and panel gaps.
My new plant car is essentially perfect with regard to paint quality and panel gaps.
Last edited by Foosh; 02-08-2019 at 05:00 PM.
#39
I had a number of issues with my blue ZR1 hood with paint color and metallic reflective mismatch, hood clear coat "smear or smudge- like" defects, small circular grinder or sander grooves benath the color coat, small impurity in halo paint and a nickel size ding in the hatch panel adjacent the window. Also, had scrape on front splitter driver side small "canard". The splitter was promptly replaced by GM. The dealer could not mitigate the remaining defects and I await a solution from GM. I have been unable to bring vehicle for repairs due to extreme cold temps and summer-only tires. Best of luck. I feel you will get your problems resolved.
#40
I have a few issues my self. The bumper does not align properly and there are 2 cracks above each head light.
I pointed them out on delivery but my sales advisor told me most of the vehicles have issues on those spots and better to leave them as it is than paint the whole front. It is what it is, doesn’t bother me...
I pointed them out on delivery but my sales advisor told me most of the vehicles have issues on those spots and better to leave them as it is than paint the whole front. It is what it is, doesn’t bother me...