Sub Driver

Except just because there is no order info or allocations yet doesn't mean there will not be a 2020. Funny how you say you deal in facts but are only speculating. Oh, the irony. I guess your common sense isn't too common. The only FACT is that no one here knows that answer yet and to act like you do is ridiculous.

DebRedZR1

FACT: THE ABOVE STATEMENT IS 100% WRONG ....

Tick tock...........................Almost April where's the ordering and allocation info for 2020s?

PS-did you miss the part 2019s are being produced beyond the BEGINNING of April....

Glenn Quagmire

I'm at a loss about what to think anymore. For 8 years I've been coming to the forum for accurate Corvette information. To find out that some things reported in the ZR1 section may not be true, has me questioning just what can be believed?! I'm hoping it's isolated to just this group and doesn't pervade the C8 section. Mutiny could ensue if folks other there are left to question the veracity of facts

mikelj

I have my ZR1, so I could care less who is right or wrong, but CF has wayyyyy too many threads like this that make your head hurt.....

ColdPIzza

GlennQuagmire... you can easily tell what is "fact" and what is "opinion." The fact is that 1) no one knows how many ZR1s are going to be built because Corvette never limited it to a set volume, and 2) ANYTHING about the C8 is just conjecture at this point because it, if it exists, hasn't been revealed. Don't let your head hurt,

DebRedZR1

^^^ THIS! Until the General makes OFFICIAL Announcement(s) all is subject to change, rumors, opinions, conjecture, etc. Now off to drive my ZR1
***Not caring how many are made, I LOVE mine xoxox

Sub Driver

You like to pretend you know everything but are obviously way out of your lane. Since when is April the ONLY month that 2020 production can begin? I will answer, it isn't. They can choose to start 2020 production whenever they want and then provide order guides and allocations accordingly. April has nothing to do with it and you should know this. What is also ironic is how in one post you can claim something is 100% false and then another say we really have no idea what the heck will happen. That is quite the turnaround, and not very credible. Like I said, your common sense isn't too common.

range96

^^^
GM started to build the 2019 ZR1 in April of 2018. Most people assume that after 12 months a new Model year will start. However, GM could continue building 2019 ZR1's until December if they so desire. There are TPW for the 2019 ZR1 for 4/29/2019 already.

Deb is rarely wrong.

ColdPIzza

Sub Driver... Deb has been around long enough to know that if 2020 production was going to start in April (as the OP that she was addressing claimed), that the order guides would have been published to dealers already. That was the only fallacy that she was addressing.

Other than that, you are reading too much into the comment and her criticism.

Sub Driver

The point is that right now no one knows what will happen and to insinuate otherwise is wrong. Production timelines can and do change and the month of April has no bearing on the future of a possible 2020 C7 as she claimed when she said my post was 100% wrong. Look at 2019 C7s, they started production in January so there is nothing set in stone.

Mikec7z

19's were out of production over the winter holidays, but they were produced prior in 2018

Dave Schotz

I have no facts... Only that GM is in the business of making money... Anyone whoever thought this was a 1 year model, is and was crazy to think that.

I could be proved wrong, as I have no inside info, but I've believed since day one it would be at minimum a 2 year run, if not 3 years!

They don't make a unique front end and engine for 2500 cars and make their money back on that.

Imo

Best Regards,
Dave

ColdPIzza

What was 100% wrong in your first statement was that you had jumped to the conclusion that she was referring to the entire 2020 model. She had refuted mike's statement that his buddy said that 2019 was ending the first week in April and 2020 was starting within 30 days. You then jumped in and acted like she said anything about 2020 never being built. She hadnt said that and therefore your response was wrong, and you had overreacted.

Now we are beating a dead horse and I hope GlennQuagmire feels that his original question was addressed.

Glenn Quagmire

Obviously you haven't been here long enough to understand my post was made with tongue firmly planted in cheek. Stick around...you'll get the hang of it.

Vernon

I think I had the wrong visual on that one LOL

C5Longhorn

After all, who else but Quagmire!

range96

On March 12, VIN 2000 was built (I forecasted March 15).
At current production rate we will reach VIN 2500 by May 20 or sooner. Then what?

a) start 2020 C7 ZR1
b) onward to VIN 3000
c) end of C7 ZR1

No other choices, and that's a fact.
What's your prediction?

Runnn

Well said. Production Control will make the moves when necessary as they've done it for years. Your TPW could become a 2019 (pulled fwd in production lingo) or it could be pushed back and become a 2020? It all depends on your build, and where GM lands in reference to model year switch over timing? I predict the 2020 will only be a 6 month or so production run with the C8 becoming a spring 2020 release as a 2021 model? Who knows as the C7 rwd may live on in the next generation--for a little while anyhow?

Deb used to work for GM, and has vast knowledge most here don't have. No, she isn't always right, nor am I. Who is??? God is!
I used to work Saturn & Subaru, and became very intimate with GM & Saturn's production control process (weren't really that different except for a few name differences for events), sequencing, scheduling etc. Deb is correct on the release timing of order guides, point-of-sale materials, yada yada yada as that stuff has a long lead which can't be dismissed. However, that does that mean GM isn't working another angle, just that it isn't likely that a 2020 is coming in the next few months. Having said, do I think that GM would do all the ZR1 R&D, engineering, testing, etc for 2500 units?? I seriously doubt it. There's always been a saying about GM, and it still rings true today... "GM isn't in the business of making cars! GM is in the business of making money!"

Mikec7z

Well put.

A.

DebRedZR1

We all know anyone who does KNOW can not say and even then it is always subject to change. Soon we should all see what happens and hopefully everyone is happy with anything new and what becomes of the ZR/C7 production. All I can say is the things I have said that Are not happening as of this very moment. ( As in 2020 production starting within 30 days of C7 production ending early April)

Enjoy the car, enjoy the anticipation of the C8. Nothing is certain in Life.