Any new updates on the supposed Zora ZR1 (C8) mid-engine Corvette?
#161
Hope you booked a room or made reservations somewhere.
As I understand it, they are going fast and just might be gone by now.
For some reason, there is a lot of interest in this thing already.
I did see an eclipse as a kid...it doesn't hold much interest for me now that I'm old and worn-out.
As I understand it, they are going fast and just might be gone by now.
For some reason, there is a lot of interest in this thing already.
I did see an eclipse as a kid...it doesn't hold much interest for me now that I'm old and worn-out.
Last edited by F4 Phantom; 05-12-2017 at 07:37 PM.
#162
For the record, I live near Salem.
The Phoenix Inn is nothing fancy, but it will do the trick.
The Phoenix Inn is nothing fancy, but it will do the trick.
#163
I know this is off topic, it has nothing to do with a solar eclipse. But there is going to be a battle between the C8 and the Mercedes GTR. They will even compare it to cars like the McLaren 720S to see how it stacks up. Will we be ready for the fight?
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...you-think.html
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https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...you-think.html
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Last edited by KrisColoradoLV; 05-23-2017 at 02:15 PM.
#164
The C8 won't be.
#166
I expected those exact words from the first response to my post. People will compare none the less. They already are stacking the ZR-1 up against the Mercedes GTR in terms of performance on this very website.
Strange why people devalue the Corvette all the time and don't expect it to be better. I always thought it should be comparable to the best but at a more reasonable cost.
That's disappointing if you are right. I had hoped the possible mid-engine to be better looking, more exotic. It's not hard to beat the 720S in looks.
Why are Americans so content in having the 5th or 10th best looking sports car in the world?
I'm not content. I want to have the best. I'm an American and have always liked Corvettes, but it's like rooting for the home team, knowing they will disappoint.
I had hoped for more exotic looks in a mid-engine platform. At least in the more limited production ME model if not the C8. By the looks of the ME spy photos though, that's not what we are going to get. So I guess I won't get either wish. What a buzz kill if you are right. I still think the C8 should be mid-engine.
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Strange why people devalue the Corvette all the time and don't expect it to be better. I always thought it should be comparable to the best but at a more reasonable cost.
That's disappointing if you are right. I had hoped the possible mid-engine to be better looking, more exotic. It's not hard to beat the 720S in looks.
Why are Americans so content in having the 5th or 10th best looking sports car in the world?
I'm not content. I want to have the best. I'm an American and have always liked Corvettes, but it's like rooting for the home team, knowing they will disappoint.
I had hoped for more exotic looks in a mid-engine platform. At least in the more limited production ME model if not the C8. By the looks of the ME spy photos though, that's not what we are going to get. So I guess I won't get either wish. What a buzz kill if you are right. I still think the C8 should be mid-engine.
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Last edited by KrisColoradoLV; 05-15-2017 at 02:35 PM.
#167
Team Owner
How can the MB be an exotic and the C8 not be when neither are or will be?
The Mercedes AMG GT is built on a platform almost identical to the Corvette C7's and there is no reason to believe that the C8 will be any different than a C7 regarding engine placement.
C7....
AMG GT....
I don't consider the C7 an exotic nor do I consider the AMG GT an exotic.
One is just more expensive than the other.
The Mercedes AMG GT is built on a platform almost identical to the Corvette C7's and there is no reason to believe that the C8 will be any different than a C7 regarding engine placement.
C7....
AMG GT....
I don't consider the C7 an exotic nor do I consider the AMG GT an exotic.
One is just more expensive than the other.
Last edited by JoesC5; 05-15-2017 at 01:20 PM.
#168
How would it be stupid to expand the brand? The new Plant could be the plan to make Corvette a stand alone brand completely separate from GM. Offering an exotic $300k+ ME, C8 front engine and the different models (keeping with american muscle traditions), and eventually a SUV.
Much like what Porsche has done. Porsche 918, Carrera Models, SUVs.
This would make logical sense for the 500 million remodel.
Last edited by John6l6; 05-15-2017 at 11:31 AM.
#169
There is no exact definition of "exotic car."
Mine is this: rare, very expensive, bleeding edge technologies, produced with craftsmanship of the highest order.
The Corvette is none of those things.
Mine is this: rare, very expensive, bleeding edge technologies, produced with craftsmanship of the highest order.
The Corvette is none of those things.
#170
Team Owner
#171
Did you see the July 1991 Eclipse?
You didn't answer my question. Do you live in Salem, OR? (I'm thinking that you do.) I and my wife have been booked with a tour group of hard core astronomers/eclipse chasers for a year. We're staying at the Phoenix Inn & Suites and seeing and shooting the eclipse from the Willamette University Rose Garden. This will be our eighth total and annular solar eclipse. Others: Roundup, MT, Cabo San Lucas, Catalina Island, Aruba, Munich, Puerto Vallarta, and St. George, UT. Sorry to get off topic everyone else.
#172
If it isn't a Corvette C7 replacement, why would it be a stupid move?
Last i checked the $450k Ford GT is sold out (1,000 of them), and there doesn't seem to be a shortage of people lining up for buying $300k+ Ferrari's, and all 700 La Ferrari's at over $1m were spoken for without even be available to the public.
There are about 1 million people in the USA with a net worth of $10 million or more and 100,000 with a net worth of at least $50 million - most all of them could afford a $300,000 car if they wanted one
Last i checked the $450k Ford GT is sold out (1,000 of them), and there doesn't seem to be a shortage of people lining up for buying $300k+ Ferrari's, and all 700 La Ferrari's at over $1m were spoken for without even be available to the public.
There are about 1 million people in the USA with a net worth of $10 million or more and 100,000 with a net worth of at least $50 million - most all of them could afford a $300,000 car if they wanted one
No one is paying $300k for a Corvette. The Ford GT has the whole "Iconic LeMans legacy" plus the 05-06s are bringing good money (have appreciated) so people are more likely to spring for a new one hoping they do the same.
The rest of your post shows a complete lack of understanding of the market. Comparing a Corvette to a Ferrari is pointless. Corvettes don't have the cachet. Vette buyers aren't going to spring for $300k and Ferrari guys aren't switching to a Corvette. Sorry.
Feel free to check back in here when the car comes out and isn't even close to $300k (likely more like 160-180) so you can see how right I am.
Last edited by Zerski; 05-17-2017 at 12:25 PM.
#173
That's it Zerski, devalue the Corvette and lower expectations so it won't be as good as it could be.
Are you kidding? Who are you trying to fool? What kind of nonsense is that? If there was a mid-engine Corvette designed and built as good as they are capable of building, it would easily sell like hotcakes for 1mil+. I wouldn't be able to afford it, but I sure would like to see it. It would need to go in the other direction than Ford though. Futuristic.
There are a few different options. I don't want to see the C8 being just an incremental step forward. I really don't even want to see a limited number of a mid-engine version in addition to the C8 unless it is truly a futuristic exotic supercar. I wouldn't mind there only being the C8 as long as it's mid-engine with an exotic futuristic design.
Are you kidding? Who are you trying to fool? What kind of nonsense is that? If there was a mid-engine Corvette designed and built as good as they are capable of building, it would easily sell like hotcakes for 1mil+. I wouldn't be able to afford it, but I sure would like to see it. It would need to go in the other direction than Ford though. Futuristic.
There are a few different options. I don't want to see the C8 being just an incremental step forward. I really don't even want to see a limited number of a mid-engine version in addition to the C8 unless it is truly a futuristic exotic supercar. I wouldn't mind there only being the C8 as long as it's mid-engine with an exotic futuristic design.
Last edited by KrisColoradoLV; 05-17-2017 at 08:06 PM.
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#175
Melting Slicks
How can the MB be an exotic and the C8 not be when neither are or will be?
The Mercedes AMG GT is built on a platform almost identical to the Corvette C7's and there is no reason to believe that the C8 will be any different than a C7 regarding engine placement.
I don't consider the C7 an exotic nor do I consider the AMG GT an exotic.
One is just more expensive than the other.
The Mercedes AMG GT is built on a platform almost identical to the Corvette C7's and there is no reason to believe that the C8 will be any different than a C7 regarding engine placement.
I don't consider the C7 an exotic nor do I consider the AMG GT an exotic.
One is just more expensive than the other.
Every single one of the supposed competitors for the mid-engine C8 sells less than 10,000 units per year, and those that cost over $100k, don't sell in volumes over 5,000. A Corvette won't do any better, and just because we are discussing this on a Corvette forum, with most who bleed Corvette yellow won't make it so.
#176
Intermediate
Just another "Zora" Update. My Chevy Sales Rep told me (Yesterday) that there ramping up to sell the "Zora" the mid engine Corvette soon. He was matter of fact about it. A lot of smoke not to have the Fire... I'm betting 200K base limited price.
#177
If the Mercedes GT is the benchmark for sales, then the C8 generation's life will be extremely short. MB USA sold 1,400 GT's for 2016 and is on pace to sell about 1,100 in 2017.
Every single one of the supposed competitors for the mid-engine C8 sells less than 10,000 units per year, and those that cost over $100k, don't sell in volumes over 5,000. A Corvette won't do any better, and just because we are discussing this on a Corvette forum, with most who bleed Corvette yellow won't make it so.
Every single one of the supposed competitors for the mid-engine C8 sells less than 10,000 units per year, and those that cost over $100k, don't sell in volumes over 5,000. A Corvette won't do any better, and just because we are discussing this on a Corvette forum, with most who bleed Corvette yellow won't make it so.
I would bet < half that.
#178
Team Owner
How can the MB be an exotic and the C8 not be when neither are or will be?
The Mercedes AMG GT is built on a platform almost identical to the Corvette C7's and there is no reason to believe that the C8 will be any different than a C7 regarding engine placement.
C7....
AMG GT....
I don't consider the C7 an exotic nor do I consider the AMG GT an exotic.
One is just more expensive than the other.
The Mercedes AMG GT is built on a platform almost identical to the Corvette C7's and there is no reason to believe that the C8 will be any different than a C7 regarding engine placement.
C7....
AMG GT....
I don't consider the C7 an exotic nor do I consider the AMG GT an exotic.
One is just more expensive than the other.
#179
I've driven nothing but a Vette since 87' but sold for the Audi RS7 in 14'
I've been waiting and watching for the ttc8 for some time now
At 150k it better be awesome looking and scarce with tons of power
Above 150, a used Gallardo Performante and at 200k a Huracan Performante.
I've been waiting and watching for the ttc8 for some time now
At 150k it better be awesome looking and scarce with tons of power
Above 150, a used Gallardo Performante and at 200k a Huracan Performante.
Last edited by Ensoniq; 05-21-2017 at 06:41 PM.
#180
updated my mod on best guesses...
wanted to see how it looked with the others...
wanted to see how it looked with the others...
Last edited by firstvettesoon; 07-02-2017 at 01:42 PM.