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Old 09-12-2016, 05:21 PM
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Nice Caddy.
Old 09-12-2016, 05:28 PM
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Im sorry but that rear heavy design does nothing for me.
Old 09-12-2016, 05:39 PM
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Does look a bit out of proportion to me, too. Also makes it difficult probably to go for a long trip but that's just speculation on my part.
Old 09-12-2016, 05:44 PM
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WTH, no manual trans?
Old 09-12-2016, 06:00 PM
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Okay it's definitely official now!

So the "ZR1" with the wing may be a 2018 model, and this mid engine one a 2019? (assuming it's Corvette - the OP intentionally vaguely worded it "GM's new supercar") Appreciate the share nonetheless!

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Old 09-12-2016, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by LT1 Z51
Pretty conclusive. Maybe now people will believe those of us who said this was happening nearly 2 years ago...
I don't think many people disbelieved the concept of it, just the predictions of which MY it will be intro'd in. The C&D speculation is now 2019, so two years ago were the rumours that you refer to that it would be released in four years? (that would make it a 2019 two years ago). The problem with all the articles was they made it sound like it was imminent - from as soon as a 2017 MY.

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Old 09-12-2016, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Achmed
I don't think many people disbelieved the concept of it, just the predictions of which MY it will be intro'd in. The C&D speculation is now 2019, so two years ago were the rumours that you refer to that it would be released in four years? (that would make it a 2019 two years ago). The problem with all the articles was they made it sound like it was imminent - from as soon as a 2017 MY.
In terms of automotive development 5 years from now is imminent. Programs get booked and approved 5 years out, sourced 4 years out, prototypes are built 3 years out for the mechanical bits, 2 years out for the sheet metal n' such, the entire last year is debugging both the car and the manufacturing of the car.

It's a freaking long *** process.

Also originally the mid-engine was a MY 2017. The program has been in development since 2012.

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Old 09-12-2016, 06:17 PM
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The camo masking really confuses the eyeballs!
Old 09-12-2016, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by LT1 Z51
In terms of automotive development 5 years from now is imminent. Programs get booked and approved 5 years out, sourced 4 years out, prototypes are built 3 years out for the mechanical bits, 2 years out for the sheet metal n' such, the entire last year is debugging both the car and the manufacturing of the car.

It's a freaking long *** process.

Also originally the mid-engine was a MY 2017. The program has been in development since 2012.
True - like I said I don't think many denied that a mid-engine Vette was coming (although some did) - personally I knew it was coming, what I found annoying was how so many articles were released continuously for years, each claiming definitely to know the MY (beginning with 2017 MY even when the C7 was revealed to a be a 2014), then as each year would pass the articles would simply add another year to their "confirmed" release date, etc.

Pictures don't lie though! But like the boy who cried wolf, it's hard to put much weight in the rest of the C&D article regarding horsepower, transmission, MY etc. even though it may very well all be accurate.
Old 09-12-2016, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Gadfly
I see no reason the car would be 125k; I would guess starting price would be 70-80k.


I tend to agree, but someone with more knowledge should comment on this. Pricing is a function of marketing, not merely cost to build. If you're using the same sort of frame as on C7, using a V8, and using only one transmission--even if a new one--the cost to build likely would not be hugely greater than C7. What would make a difference in price is whether this is a Cadillac or a Corvette, and whether it's a replacement for C7 or an additional "halo" model.
Old 09-12-2016, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by juanvaldez
Small brakes.
Maybe the car doesn't weigh 3500 pounds and doesn't need big brakes.

But it has absolutely the worst paint job I have ever seen.
Old 09-12-2016, 08:22 PM
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I knew it.
Old 09-12-2016, 08:22 PM
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I knew everything about this and my facts were exactly right in the post that I wasn't allowed to make that was absolutely accurate.
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Old 09-12-2016, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by cvp33
I knew everything about this and my facts were exactly right in the post that I wasn't allowed to make that was absolutely accurate.
If you'd like me to elaborate.... a friend I trust told me the following back when the C7 Stingray came out:

"They're working on a Z06 and then a special car is coming to showcase what GM can do which will pave the way for the C8". Back then the GS wasn't in the cards nor was a possible C7 ZR1, but the C7 has been very profitable for GM.
Old 09-12-2016, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ssidekickbp
They def won't be making them round again anytime soon. It's one of the best things they did to update the aging look of the Corvettes before it. So many people said its what the car needed to really move forward regardless of what a few fans who didn't like change thought.
wouldn't that be funny if they kept them the same and all the idiots out there who are crying about the C7 tail lights either A) miss out on 2 gens of Corvette or B) eat crow and buy a C8 with C7 tail lights.....
Old 09-12-2016, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by cvp33
I knew everything about this and my facts were exactly right in the post that I wasn't allowed to make that was absolutely accurate.
You are only one of many on this forum.
Old 09-12-2016, 08:46 PM
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Sorry to say - its IS a Caddy.
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Old 09-12-2016, 08:47 PM
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If in fact GM builds a Mid Engine Corvette....FORM FOLLOWS FUNCTION...With the engine behind the driver look at the mid engine designs of the European models.....The only thing different will be the Corvette Crossed Flags on the nose....And....Hopefully....a small block V8 Twin Turbo power plant....
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Originally Posted by Achmed
True - like I said I don't think many denied that a mid-engine Vette was coming (although some did) - personally I knew it was coming, what I found annoying was how so many articles were released continuously for years, each claiming definitely to know the MY (beginning with 2017 MY even when the C7 was revealed to a be a 2014), then as each year would pass the articles would simply add another year to their "confirmed" release date, etc.

Pictures don't lie though! But like the boy who cried wolf, it's hard to put much weight in the rest of the C&D article regarding horsepower, transmission, MY etc. even though it may very well all be accurate.
Ha. True! The HP number isn't even finalized until after emissions testing. Articles post the "target" as the actual value, when in fact target HP's can be low, or high!
Old 09-12-2016, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by jagamajajaran
By the way, I do NOT think this is the eight generation Corvette, but a separate and distinct car coming out as a 2019 model with the eight generation Corvette planned for the 2021 model year.

Timeline sounds about right. This would allow for a ZR1 C7 for MY 2018. I think GM will milk the C7 for one more big bang before the mid-engine release.
Still a lot of questions about the mid-engine like, what engine, what tranny and, of course, exactly when?


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