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Old 09-12-2016, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by stevebz06 View Post
Maybe the car doesn't weigh 3500 pounds and doesn't need big brakes.

But it has absolutely the worst paint job I have ever seen.
But, from a mile away, you can't see any orange peel. They're making progress.
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Old 09-12-2016, 09:33 PM
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Sorry to say - its IS a Caddy.
Don't think so! Ummm let's see....

1. The average income of a Corvette owner is higher than of a Cadillac owner and has many, many owners that are very affluent that can afford to buy anything they want and they often do with having multiple cars (toys).
2. The Corvette is one of the very few cars GM has that has actual credibility Worldwide and pretty much respected as an elite brand Worldwide (except for the haters).
3. No Cadillac has close to the cachet the Corvette has.
4. No Cadillac has the fanatical enthusiast following the Corvette has.
5. No Cadillac has the heritage the Corvette has.
6. No Cadillac has the racing history the Corvette has.
7. The same exact $150-200K car but under the Cadillac name would be outsold 3-4 times under the Corvette name. The same car at $70-110K would be outsold by 10 under the Corvette name.

News flash to those who might be confused that we are in the 1960's or early 1970's or live in certain regions of this great Country..........There's nothing it has on the Corvette with the exception of some superior dealerships! Cadillac is coming up but not there yet. They need to work on a legit Flagship Sedan and keep focus on their SUV lineup for now. After that they can perhaps piggy-back on the Corvette platform and do their own variant IMO.

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Originally Posted by aerobaticflyer View Post
I'm thinking Cadillac to make the economics work....no one is ready at GM for a Vette (mid-engine) in the >$125K+ range.
Cadillac and economics? Never to be used in the same sentence.
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Old 09-12-2016, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveFerrari458 View Post
Don't think so! Ummm let's see....

1. The average income of a Corvette owner is higher than of a Cadillac owner and has many, many owners that are very affluent that can afford to buy anything they want and they often do with having multiple cars (toys).
2. The Corvette is one of the very few cars GM has that has actual credibility Worldwide and pretty much respected as an elite brand Worldwide (except for the haters).
3. No Cadillac has close to the cachet the Corvette has.
4. No Cadillac has the fanatical enthusiast following the Corvette has.
5. No Cadillac has the heritage the Corvette has.
6. No Cadillac has the racing history the Corvette has.
7. The same exact $150-200K car but under the Cadillac name would be outsold 3-4 times under the Corvette name. The same car at $70-110K would be outsold by 10 under the Corvette name.

News flash to those who might be confused that we are in the 1960's or early 1970's or live in certain regions of this great Country..........There's nothing it has on the Corvette with the exception of some superior dealerships! Cadillac is coming up but not there yet. They need to work on a legit Flagship Sedan and keep focus on their SUV lineup for now. After that they can perhaps piggy-back on the Corvette platform and do their own variant IMO.
I agree!
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Old 09-12-2016, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Tool Hoarder View Post
If you'd like me to elaborate.... a friend I trust told me the following back when the C7 Stingray came out:

"They're working on a Z06 and then a special car is coming to showcase what GM can do which will pave the way for the C8". Back then the GS wasn't in the cards nor was a possible C7 ZR1, but the C7 has been very profitable for GM.

We posted at the same time so my post clearly wasn't directed at you. My Father worked for GM from 1965 to 2001. I have lots of stories I could share.......
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Old 09-12-2016, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by themonk View Post
wouldn't that be funny if they kept them the same and all the idiots out there who are crying about the C7 tail lights either A) miss out on 2 gens of Corvette or B) eat crow and buy a C8 with C7 tail lights.....
I was watching some car related show on TV. They were talking about the tail lights on a new Camero, commenting that they resembled the Corvette and that was no accident. The commentator, not a GM employee, stated that GM wants a "family" appearance between performance Chevrolets like the Corvette and Camero. If the new mid-engine is a Corvette, it's likely it will have the C7/Camero like tail lights. Round is gone with the last C6 just like pop-up headlights are gone with the last C5.
BTW, I saw a conversion kit for the C7 to convert it to round tail lights. In my opinion, it looked nasty, I won't be buying one.
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Old 09-12-2016, 09:55 PM
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What is the price point and will it have a manual?

I won't be buying the first model year. I will gladly avoid the teething issues, and the higher performance model that will challenge the Z will take at least another year to build.
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Old 09-12-2016, 10:15 PM
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Clearly shares the C7 a pillar and mirrors.... Very unlikely this is solely a Cadillac.... Possible eventual crossover but no way they release the Cadillac variant 1st or even at the same time.... GM most certainly learned a lesson from the XLR.... No one argues that it was an awesome car but that didn't help sell them for GM! Maybe they will at least put a variant of the vettes engine in it if it does carry over rather than a "Northstar".... Cadillac has definitely upped their game since the XLR days though with all the new V series cars so I wouldn't mind seeing a Cadillac varient eventually

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Old 09-12-2016, 10:42 PM
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Most chatter I'm hearing is that GM is building this as a halo car and their luxury brand is Caddy. It will pave the way for a mid-engine Corvette C8.

That said, I agree that the Corvette has all the racing heritage and prestige. Plus people have been clamoring for a mid-engine Corvette for decades and it's never happened. So a mid-engine Corvette will have way more buzz.

But... sources keep saying Caddy halo car. Apparently Caddy is getting back into prototype racing with a carbon tub closed cockpit car.
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By the way, I do NOT think this is the eight generation Corvette, but a separate and distinct car coming out as a 2019 model with the eight generation Corvette planned for the 2021 model year.
do you think it this is separate corvette model or a separate car altogether from the Corvette?
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Old 09-12-2016, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jagamajajaran View Post
By the way, I do NOT think this is the eight generation Corvette, but a separate and distinct car coming out as a 2019 model with the eight generation Corvette planned for the 2021 model year.
It's a StingRay, just look at the way the rear window tapers down toward the back like the C7.
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Old 09-12-2016, 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by brettlid View Post
It's a StingRay, just look at the way the rear window tapers down toward the back like the C7.
Pretty sure this is just a bastardized test mule. The older variant had a C7 cabin and doors, but a Holden front and rear truck bed. I think this is just more C7 exterior scrap bits.
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Old 09-12-2016, 11:10 PM
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do you think it this is separate corvette model or a separate car altogether from the Corvette?
I believe it will be a separate model under the Corvette brand. There have been spy shots of the ZR1 and a Z06X. I don't think it would be a bad idea to have a Zora on top of those. Porsche does very well with their multiple versions of the 911. Why can't Corvette do the same? I would still like to see the lower models remain affordable, front engine platforms of course. Just please continue to offer me a manual!

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Originally Posted by DeStreGa5 View Post
I believe it will be a separate model under the Corvette brand. There have been spy shots of the ZR1 and a Z06X. I don't think it would be a bad idea to have a Zora on top of those. Porsche does very well with their multiple versions of the 911. Why can't Corvette do the same? I would still like to see the lower models remain affordable, front engine platforms of course. Just please continue to offer me a manual!
The Corvette isn't a brand, it's a model.
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Old 09-12-2016, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by themonk View Post
The Corvette isn't a brand, it's a model.
He never said it's a "car brand". As often mentioned in advertising, brand doesn't necessarily mean the manufacturer's name. Nobody says they have an Apple; they say they do have an iPhone.
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Originally Posted by DeStreGa5 View Post
I believe it will be a separate model under the Corvette brand.
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He never said it's a "car brand". As often mentioned in advertising, brand doesn't necessarily mean the manufacturer's name. Nobody says they have an Apple; they say they do have an iPhone.
really.

GM-----Chevrolet-----Corvette-----(Cx) (in this case C8)-----?

The Stingray, GS and Z06 aren't "brands", they are sub models of the Corvette. When someone asks you "what brand of jeans are those?" you say Levis, you don't say 501's. If someone asks me what brand of phone I own I don't say Note 5, I say Samsung.
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Let's talk power plant, what do you guys think will be suitable for this?
N/A V8
FI V8
TT 6

As for trans, I don't think it will have a DCT since GM be boasting about their A8/A10 shifting like no tomorrow.
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Let's talk power plant, what do you guys think will be suitable for this?
N/A V8
FI V8
TT 6

As for trans, I don't think it will have a DCT since GM be boasting about their A8/A10 shifting like no tomorrow.
try wedging a 6.2L OHV V8 and all necessary accessories into a mid-engine chassis and then work on it, that may be a challenge.
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So if its a C8 in 2019, do we get to call our C7s MidYear 2s???

Its a Vette BTW.

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try wedging a 6.2L OHV V8 and all necessary accessories into a mid-engine chassis and then work on it, that may be a challenge.
They have been putting massive engines into mid engine cars for years.

the current aventador is a 6.4L V12.
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