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Old 01-18-2017, 04:37 PM
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Why the fascination with a mid engine Corvette? Isn't what is now available good enough?
Old 01-18-2017, 04:40 PM
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That's an ok rendering. I think they'll have more redesign on the front end.
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Why the fascination with a mid engine Corvette? Isn't what is now available good enough?
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Have you ever driven an NSX by chance? If a Corvette turns like that, but coupled with the torque delivery of a typical Corvette...you've got a magical combination.

Not to mention, you've now got a mass production, mid engine compatible transaxle that will have TONS of aftermarket uses. GM will be selling crate LT's and transaxles through the aftermarket for buggies, sand rails, kit cars, track day machines, and countless others.

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Why the fascination with a mid engine Corvette? Isn't what is now available good enough?
I picked up an old 1960's Car & Driver magazine recently and saw an article proclaiming the soon coming of a mid-engine Corvette. And since then, on a regular yearly basis, somebody speculates about the soon coming of a mid-engine Corvette.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.
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I have had a few mid-engine sports cars (Dino Ferrari, Acura NSX and Porsche Boxster S) and you just feel like you are wearing them when you drive...... I will take a hard look when and if it is available.
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Let me get this straight. GM has been exploring mid engines since the 60's (models residing at the museum) to it is going to happen in 2017, then it was 2018 and now it is 2019.
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Not bad at all, of course the big question is what is the MSRP going to be.
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Originally Posted by Rooster OG
That's an ok rendering. I think they'll have more redesign on the front end.
They would have to. It looks too 'generic'. They'll have to give more Corvette styling queues unless GM want a complete departure.
Old 01-18-2017, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by rkhegler
Why the fascination with a mid engine Corvette? Isn't what is now available good enough?
Mid engine cars turn. You fight front/rear engine cars.
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Let me get this straight. GM has been exploring mid engines since the 60's (models residing at the museum) to it is going to happen in 2017, then it was 2018 and now it is 2019.
Difference between all those years and now, is that GM is involved in racing. Zora supported the idea of mid-engine, but GM execs internally didn't. Today, Corvette and Cadillac are pushing hard to have a global presence in the performance market versus BMW, Mercedes, and Corvette is looking at the competitive spaces that are occupied by NSX, Mclaren 570s, GTR, etc.

Comparing GM of the 60's/70's to the GM of today is beyond apples to oranges, it's apples to donuts. Your looking in the wrong place. GM today doesn't compete against the GM of the 60's it's competes against a current market. If the market demands it, then you build it. There was far from sufficient demand in the 60's/70's to build such a car, today is an ENTIRELY different story.

If GM doesn't build it, it'll be for budgetary reasons, in that it's cancelled due to a buying recession and poor outlook. In my belief though, the car is done and the investment is made. Porsche RSR is mid engine, Ferrari 388, FordGT...every car in their racing class is mid engine...it's happening.
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The ME is NOT going to be the next generation Corvette (C8). It's going to be a separate vehicle. The next generation Corvette (C8) is projected to be produced as a 2021 MY car.

Back to our regularly scheduled programming...
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Originally Posted by dvilin
Not bad at all, of course the big question is what is the MSRP going to be.
This.

Rumors are all over the map as to whether the mid-engine will be the ONLY Corvette model.

I think a mid-engined Corvette would be great, but I have precisely ZERO faith that a mid-engine Corvette will only be $5k more expensive than the current car. I'm still thinking that a mid-engine Corvette will *start* at $80k - $85k -- squarely in Viper territory.

If the Mid is going to be the only model, just how many buyers will there be with average 'as equipped' prices near $100,000? I don't think the Corvette brand will survive at production levels less than 10,000 units annually.

Ask Dodge how well that low-volume strategy worked out.

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Originally Posted by jagamajajaran
The ME is NOT going to be the next generation Corvette (C8). It's going to be a separate vehicle. The next generation Corvette (C8) is projected to be produced as a 2021 MY car.

Back to our regularly scheduled programming...
Totally believe this.
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Originally Posted by jagamajajaran
The ME is NOT going to be the next generation Corvette (C8). It's going to be a separate vehicle. The next generation Corvette (C8) is projected to be produced as a 2021 MY car.

Back to our regularly scheduled programming...



I really do. I think going to a mid-engine car as the ONLY Corvette would be trouble from an affordability & volume standpoint.

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jeez if ya can't be sued or punished in any way cause it might resemble an existing car, at least draw something sexy and mean.
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Originally Posted by Kent1999
I think going to a mid-engine car as the ONLY Corvette would be trouble from an affordability & volume standpoint.
It would be the demise of the Corvette. But it's not going to happen, so nothing to worry about.
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Originally Posted by AlanAutoSports
Difference between all those years and now, is that GM is involved in racing
Huh? From The History of GM Factory-Backed Racing: On, Off, and On Again:

There has never been a time throughout GM’s history that their products really had no involvement in racing
Seems to me like your premise is just flat out wrong...
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Originally Posted by rkhegler
Why the fascination with a mid engine Corvette? Isn't what is now available good enough?
There's a reason the highest performance race cars and exotic cars on the planet have generally been mid-engine for 20+ years, it works better from a pure performance standpoint. Hence the move to that configuration in the high zoot fast car universe.

But for me, the C7 is good enough. If they simply added AWD, kept the weight gain to under 200 lbs and kicked the engine on the base car up to closer to 500 bph - I think they could keep the cost down and be even closer to cars like the Ferrari 488. And the base price could still be under $60K.

I think THAT would sell a TON more C8's than some mid-engined car that they price at $100K +. AND keep the car easy to live with - that huge trunk area is quite unique among cars of the C7's performance level. One of the best things about the car. I can put my road bicycle in the back. That's amazing.


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^^^ I find it amazing that you actually use a Corvette to do this.....

But I guess it sure beats mounting bicycle racks out back.

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