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I would also like strakes for the diffuser - prolly doesn't do anything on a street car but it looks cool, and a track package that includes anchors for a roll bar, 5 point seat belts and a fire extinguisher bracket.
Oh ya & more carbon fiber
a fire extinguisher bracket, they are required for most shows...
I think GM should get rid of the dipstick or at the very least add an oil level monitoring system throughout GM s engine lineup.
People think the oil change interval gauge means they don't have to check the oil. It's the cause of a lot of bad press..
I'd like a dct in the c8 and I'd like over 500 hp in a rear mid engine design with a low front cowl like the 911...makes placing the front wheels easier and I like the close view of the road ..
MRC shocks, dct, 500 hp mid rear engine...I'm in...
After three new corvettes...I want something different but I want to buy from Chevrolet. I dig their value equation, their robust nature, low cost maintance and great service at my Chevy dealer in Middletown Ct...Jackson Chevy....so much so I don't want to change brands..
Great post covering everything (& then some) I'd hope for in a C8. Curious about the manual parking brake vs. current electric/ mechanical. What's the argument favoring the manual, i.e. is it a preference, or is there a benefit/ advantage too? (simply curious)
Thanks! There was an entire segment on Motorweek this Sunday bemoaning the stupid touch screen infotainment nonsense in cars today. Another reason GM might consider doing away with it in the Vette is that most of the ridiculous Jalop-*** gizmo nonsense they're stuffing in there is obsolete before the warranty expires and dates the car permanently. A Vette should be timeless. In 40 years do you think that finicky, laggy, Carplay touch-mess is going to be something anybody wants to deal with? I can't use a gen 2 ipod anymore because the cables don't work in a new computer - do you think anyone will still know what a USB cable is in 20 years or even have anything that still works with it? In 40 years the 04-06 Ford GT will still be a lust-worthy monster because its basic and brilliant. I doubt a mid-engined C8, no matter how brilliant, will be looked upon as fondly in 2050 if it's full of Tinder, SMS and iOS 10 compatible apps, 4 USB ports, 'bluetooth' and a display that no one services when it breaks for an inextricable radio that only plays dead music formats. Even XM - how long is that gonna last with unlimited data and stuff like Tidal and Spotify around? Imagine the Buick Reatta's color touch screen but infinitely worse. Better yet, picture a 90's C4 with a GM fax machine, Zach Morris brick phone and factory Palm Pilot music player cord. That's what they're doing now to the C7 and Camaro. Sure, in a disposeable modern car that's meant to be used and crushed after 100k miles that stuff is fine (sort of) but in a car like the Corvette that will outlive us all, that infotainment garbage is a dated obsolescent embarassment and a pox upon a future classic.
Don't get me wrong, I don't mind technology that makes the car go faster, safer or handle better - even when its dated - but tech that's merely a temporary modern distraction that serves no purpose beyond being trendy...please, get it out of the Corvette!
Oh, and to answer your question about the parking brake - manual is better because in a catastrophic failure its your only lifeline. A guy and his dog died in his C6 when the battery went flat and he couldn't figure out how to get the doors open. That was a simple stationary situation and it caught somebody. If I'm careening down a hill with a dead alternator, or a cooked ECU or a complete hydraulic failure - whatever - I want A SEPARATE SYSTEM as a lifeline. The manual EMERGENCY brake was never broken and they shouldn't have fixed it. Just because everyone else is doing it, doesn't mean its smart or an improvement. Even McLaren has a bad idea once in a while....electrostatic door latches, push button transmission, electronic parking brake....
Actually, while I'm complaining about the future - the cable to the transmission needs to be a physical cable too, not an electric switch. Just ask Anton Yelchin what he thinks about it.
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OMG You guys gotta stop taking ideas from Hitlers cars. I don't just use the dipstick to check oil - I use it to guage the quality, viscosity and cleanliness of what's in the car regardless of age. I can use it to diagnose a bad headgasket. I can use it to tell if the car is leaking or burning oil slowly over time. I can also tell if the oil is getting prematurely cooked due to poor radiator cooling, chargecooling or a clogged oil cooler. If I overfill the car I can pull the excess out through the dipstick...and speaking of, how exactly do you refill the oil in a car with no visual indicator?
LEAVE THE DAMNED DIPSTICK WHERE IT IS and buy a Mercedes if you like bad ideas.
Last edited by StreetLegalH2R; 03-12-2017 at 08:16 PM.
Relax...you can keep the dipstick if you like. Consumers are not checking the. Dipstick and self service gas stations make it so consumers need oil level monitoring systems. I check the oil once a month or about every 1000 miles but most consumers just don't..
GM warranty claims would be greatly reduced if they installed oil level monitoring systems..
That's all I'm saying..
Calm down with the suggestion of buying Hitler's cars...
Holly crap..(just joking around..I understand your point)
500 HP Base (mildly exclusive 25K-28K/year) $65K/$70K-$90K. Fully loaded will be the price of a 911S base model.
670 HP Z06 (exclusive 3-4K/year) $100K-$125K. Fully loaded will be priced much lower than a 911 Turbo and GTR.
775+HP Zora(lighter, more exotic looking, far more exclusive)$145K-170K. Fully loaded will be priced much lower than any Ferrari, Lambo, Mclaren, or Audi R8 V10.
- Increased attention to fit & finish and elevate the quality of materials used.
- DCT across the board
- Its own brand not sold in Chevy Dealers, sold through select Cadillac Dealers.
- Finally eliminate squeaking over driveways.
- More safety features.
- More options.
- A few exclusive to Corvette only colors.
- Less wheel fender gap.
- Much improved sound system on upper trim levels.
- Get rid of that glue smell.
- Right Hand drive for certain International markets.
- Get rid of Chrome Wheel option.
Whatever it takes to stomp the $hit out of the GT-R. I have never accepted the comparisons between this car and any late model Corvette. How can you compare an AWD car to a RWD car and consider a fair outcome?
Whatever it takes to stomp the $hit out of the GT-R. I have never accepted the comparisons between this car and any late model Corvette. How can you compare an AWD car to a RWD car and consider a fair outcome?
The C7 Z06 already beats the GT-R, which has a base price over $20k higher.
1. Lightweight
2. Low polar moment
3. Low centre of gravity
4. Longitudinal twin turbo V-8, dry sump, 600 HP (assuming light weight, aka 3000 lb range)
5. no hybrid
6. 7 speed DCT, with electronic LSD
8. Low drag and high downforce. small frontal area
9. Active aero
10. really stiff chassis in all directions
11. low front cowl with excellent visibility
12. trunk large enough to fit travel items for 2 people
13. great snarly engine sound that can be turned down at will
14. Adjustable dampers
15. Active anti-roll bars to allow softer springs for more comfortable ride with super track performance
16. A Ring time better than the AMG GT-R
17. Price less than $150k
18. Cooling allowing car to run all day on track without overheating
19. Rear wheel steering
20. Great user experience design for all electronic systems
21. Really good lightweight seats, comfortable, with options available, including adjustable width on seat bottom and top like on my GT-S
22. Place to mount a belt bar so you can use the holes in the seats for the reason they are put there, along with lower belt mounting points.
23. Full complement of safety features with 360 camera, lane assist etc.
24. Easy to use driver modes with user adjustable track modes and traction control
Enough safety electronics to allow the issue of a license to legally drive the car at insane speed when conditions allow. Said another way, a technical solution that legally eliminates speed limits and replaces them with road condition controls. Pat
The line to buy such a Corvette would be enormous. Like selling tickets to the front row of a Rolling Stones concert for $10. GM would need two plants working 24/7 just to have any hope of meeting the demand.
Great post covering everything (& then some) I'd hope for in a C8. Curious about the manual parking brake vs. current electric/ mechanical. What's the argument favoring the manual, i.e. is it a preference, or is there a benefit/ advantage too? (simply curious)
if you ever lose a main braking circuit like I have, then you'll find out why.
Thanks! There was an entire segment on Motorweek this Sunday bemoaning the stupid touch screen infotainment nonsense in cars today. Another reason GM might consider doing away with it in the Vette is that most of the ridiculous Jalop-*** gizmo nonsense they're stuffing in there is obsolete before the warranty expires and dates the car permanently.
The only reason people are bemoaning them, is because these systems have such poor user interfaces. I can't believe how bad they are. I don't hear people bemoaning their cell phones. Quite the opposite. The Dodge 8" touch screen interface is pretty nice. Much easier than the other rental cars I have driven.
Car makers don't build cars so they don't have obsolescence. By that reasoning, we might as well just get stuck in a time warp of 1968, and put a radio in with a needle pointer dial. Yeah, that would go over well.
03-12-2017, 07:48 PM
