Originally Posted by jimmyb

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Also, I don't know about the C7.R, but the C6.R DID have a clutch pedal, that was used for starting off from a dead stop, it was not required for shifting.

Originally Posted by jimmyb

My final thought on Nurburgring times: They get published and everyone bench races the results, ignoring the most important component of the published time....the driver. I, for one, don't think that a AMG GT R is faster than a Ferrari 488GTB, but based on published times, the AMG is 11 seconds a lap faster.

Originally Posted by JerriVette

Technology is leaving DCT s behind compared to torque convertor automatics or so say the head of BMW s M division...

DCT s were once regards very highly but technological advances in torque convertor automatics today or in the near future have motivated the head of BMW s M division to make the bold statement future M cars from BMW will begin to phase in torque convertor automatics...

Holly crap...

What will trolls complain about I. Future corvette forum debates? ( kidding of course)

Originally Posted by AORoads

About two weeks ago, someone at Porsche said they were no longer going to publish or use Ring numbers. He said it just wasn't important.

Edit: http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...lap-times.html

Originally Posted by JoesC5

You are the one who is short on facts.

2) GM had the 2015 C7 Z06 at Nurburgring on Oct 6, 2014, when Jim Mero wrecked the yellow one(but GM still had a the blue Z06 at Nurburgring at that time). That was almost 6 months BEFORE the fatality at Nurburgring that caused them to place the speed restriction on the track(March 28, 2015). That was 6 months that GM could have done additional attempts to get a time, but they didn't. The fact is that Tadge said his famous remark about releasing the Z06's time was in early June 2015. So, that means that GM would have had to have made that attempt prior to March 28,2015, BEFORE the speed restriction was put in place.

Almost one year to the day(March 30, 2016), Nurburgring lifted the speed restriction(after repairing 300 meters of the track, adding additional guards and fencing, etc). After the speed restriction was lifted, at LEAST 8 auto manufacturers have set times at the Ring with 12 different cars. That's 13 months since the lifting of the speed restriction that GM could have taken the Z06 back to Nurburgring to get a time, But they didn't. WHY? GM somehow found the time/money to take the Camaro ZL1 to Nurburgring to get a time(that they posted) since the speed restriction was lifted.

But, even in 2015, after the March 28 fatality, and before the lifting of the speed restriction, there were four different times posted(Alfa Romeo, Lamborghini, Porsche and BMW).

After all, there is no limit to the number of times a manufacturer can make a timing run that is set by Nurburgring. Hell, GM ran the C6 Z06 at the Ring twice(2005 and 2011) and the ZR1 twice(2008 and 2011), and posted the times for all four runs.

So, all in all, GM has had 19 months to get a time for the Z06, without a speed restriction being in place at the Ring.

Originally Posted by Reciprocal

If GM had a winning hand they would play it. They don't so they can't. If only GM had spent half as much effort benchmarking the competition instead of their own obsolete C6, the C7 would have advanced the goalposts. It only incrementally moved them past the C6 while falling behind Audi, Nissan, Mercedes, Porsche. And that will never change because GM builds to a price point. The ZR1 at 8 years old is never more than a set of Michelin shoes from being fully competitive with C7 Z06 now in most measures and even faster if you factor top speeds, light weight and cool running.