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If Corvette made a 6 cylinder?

Old 05-13-2017, 08:41 PM
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If corvette made a 3.9L 235ci engine like the one that was in the original C1 would you be interested?

I was thinking about it and something like the LZ9 with 240hp and 240ftlbs could work. Modernized that engine could work and give better gas milage and a lower cost.

but would corvette owners go for that?

honestly I would be interested.

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No, thank you. The Corvette's hallmark engine and signature sound for the past 64 years has been the V8.

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No, thank you. The Corvette's hallmark engine and signature sound for the past 64 years has been the V8.

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Corvette used a strait 6 until 1955 so that would be 62 years. The first two years the corvette only came with an inline 6.

also yes I'm serious. The corvette was born with a 6.

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240hp is serious though?

I'd say that a V6 Corvette will exist, in the sense that it'll be a Cadillac branded car, running on a modular chassis that shares with Corvette, similar to the Camaro sharing with the ATS.

The relationship of audi and Lambo sharing for R8/Gallardo will likely be in the future for Corvette and Cadillac with the mid engine car, then potentially with a sport luxury car that competes with Panamera under the Caddy badge and uses core architecture from Corvette.

I could see a hybrid V6 application running forced induction, find its way into something...sure. That said though, there will ALWAYS be a V8 Corvette available. I've heard countless powertrain engineers in GM say that, internally, that is something they feel will never cease to exist...it'll kill the brand.
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Originally Posted by flyingbunnys
Corvette used a strait 6 until 1955 so that would be 62 years. The first two years the corvette only came with an inline 6.

also yes I'm serious. The corvette was born with a 6.
Let me take a quick shot in the dark. You own a Honda Civic with a fart can and you're hoping the Vette comes with a 240 hp 6 cyl. engine so you can get an easy Vette 'kill'.

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playing devils advocate...only been a vette guy for 3 months... but you can get a 4 cylinder turbo mustang, the ford gt is a 6 cyl turbo, you can get a 4 cylinder turbo AMG....amg and ferrari talking EV (ferrari, porsche and mclaren hypercars are hybrids)... Mercedes ProjectONE hypercar may be the fastest road car ever...and wuill be a 6cylinder turbo hybrid... you evolve or you die and have to get with the times.

but... give me a NA engine with a manual everday

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The 240 hp is the old 3.9 that gm discontinued back in 2011. I shouldn't have included that number.
I guess a better example would be the 3.6L V6 from the Camaro which makes 335 hp.
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Originally Posted by flyingbunnys
The 240 hp is the old 3.9 that gm discontinued back in 2011. I shouldn't have included that number.
I guess a better example would be the 3.6L V6 from the Camaro which makes 335 hp.
Anything less than 450 HP won't sell in a Corvette, unless EVERY performance car has only 335 HP(think back to the 1970's and 1980's).

Cadillac currently has a 464 HP V6(turbo) that might find it's way into a mid engine Cadillac sports car as it's base engine. Might even find it's way into a base mid engine Corvette, but I doubt it.

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I actually have an old forklift that has the industrial version of the Engine that the OP is referencing. The great blue flame six-cylinder. Of course anything can be re-engineered to make power but I still believe it is an ignorant idea. I hope they never go to a V-6 turbo, or otherwise. Please don't tell me about all the great V-6 engines out there. Unbalanced, rough running, bad ideas. Ha ha
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Folks on this forum have speculated that Corvette going to a mid-engine design would hurt/kill Corvette. Others have speculated that raising the price of a base Corvette to $90K would kill the brand. Maybe those two speculations are correct, maybe not. However if Corvette ever goes to a V6 you can submit bids for the tombstone. I'd give it two years and it's toast.
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Why on earth would they ever go V6 when the V8 has been rock solid for the last 62 years and counting?
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I'd sell my soul for a FGT w ecoboost v-6 twin turbo that is a POS

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Originally Posted by roadbike56
Folks on this forum have speculated that Corvette going to a mid-engine design would hurt/kill Corvette. Others have speculated that raising the price of a base Corvette to $90K would kill the brand. Maybe those two speculations are correct, maybe not. However if Corvette ever goes to a V6 you can submit bids for the tombstone. I'd give it two years and it's toast.
People on here often think in terms of totality though, and that's the problem. They hear mid-engine and think the front engine car is dead. That's not going to be the case...it'll ADD to the lineup. That said, if a 6 cylinder did get put into the mix, it'd likely do so in a way to ADD to the lineup.

So, theoretically, if the "E-Ray" had a 505hp V6 with an electrically driven supercharger (GM has the patent) and a DCT added to the lineup of models, you think bids for tombstones would begin then?

The V8 front engine, rear drive car is the core, but you can add all kinds of things around it.

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Originally Posted by flyingbunnys
Corvette used a strait 6 until 1955 so that would be 62 years. The first two years the corvette only came with an inline 6.

also yes I'm serious. The corvette was born with a 6.
It was also born with a 2 speed automatic....

And I don't believe you're serious. I'm not sure why you think a 240HP engine is a good idea or why you would post this?????

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People on here often think in terms of totality though, and that's the problem. They hear mid-engine and think the front engine car is dead. That's not going to be the case...it'll ADD to the lineup. That said, if a 6 cylinder did get put into the mix, it'd likely do so in a way to ADD to the lineup.

So, theoretically, if the "E-Ray" had a 505hp V6 with an electrically driven supercharger (GM has the patent) and a DCT added to the lineup of models, you think bids for tombstones would begin then?

The V8 front engine, rear drive car is the core, but you can add all kinds of things around it.
Those small turbo 4's and 6's look good to the EPA, but their real world mileage stinks. Just look at GM vs. Ford pickups. Or look at the Cayman. They went to a turbo 4, and the real world mileage improved zip over the flat 6 it replaced. I recall some tests where the 4 was even worse.

They might as well make the whole thing electric if they go that route, because the last thing I want to listen to or feel is a thrashy low rent V6 under the hood. I'd rather hear and feel nothing.

Michael

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The first 6-7 years I was into cars, was with 4cyl turbos, rotary twin turbos, and 6cyl's. I have zero interest in any of those engines in a Corvette. My last 4 car purchases have been V8's(two with superchargers). Not going back.

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Originally Posted by Michael A
Those small turbo 4's and 6's look good to the EPA, but their real world mileage stinks. Just look at GM vs. Ford pickups. Or look at the Cayman. They went to a turbo 4, and the real world mileage improved zip over the flat 6 it replaced. I recall some tests where the 4 was even worse.

They might as well make the whole thing electric if they go that route, because the last thing I want to listen to or feel is a thrashy low rent V6 under the hood. I'd rather hear and feel nothing.

Michael
Brake specific fuel consumption is higher on forced induction, this is a fact that can't really be circumvented. Especially with warrantied engines that need to survive.

I imagine if the 6 ever found its way into the car though, it'd be through an approach of "hybrid". On GM's front, I'd imagine the most feasible and in-house possible development would be a driveline electric motor within the transmission...something that is modular potentially.

This is all theory though, as when you build cars like these, it's generally to enable your company to build something else. In other words, cars like the Volt, allow cars like the big trucks and gas guzzling Z06's to exist in the fleet. Same goes for models and staying relevant in the industry. The industry moves forward, and you have to move with it.
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Obvious troll is obvious.
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Originally Posted by flyingbunnys
If corvette made a 3.9L 235ci engine like the one that was in the original C1 would you be interested?

I was thinking about it and something like the LZ9 with 240hp and 240ftlbs could work. Modernized that engine could work and give better gas milage and a lower cost.

but would corvette owners go for that?

honestly I would be interested.
I think you would get some interest although when you think of Corvette most people aren't going to think V6 with Iconic Muscle and be deterred away. Just my thoughts.

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