Should Corvette go the route of Mustang - Hybrid?
01-18-2018, 06:02 PM
#81
Moderator
Camry is always voted most American car. Most parts made/assembled in USA.
Fact check: JEEP beat out Toyota now. Point still stands...
https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/j...rs-com-claims/
Fact check: JEEP beat out Toyota now. Point still stands...
https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/j...rs-com-claims/
Profit Margin - This was measured based on the location of an automaker’s headquarters. If an automaker’s global headquarters is located in the US, the model receives a 6. If it is not, it receives a 0. The assumption here is that (on average), 6% of a vehicle’s value is profit margin, so if it is a U.S. automaker, the profits remain in the country.
Labor - This category considers where the car is assembled. If a model is assembled in the US, it receives a 6. If not, the model receives a 0. We assume that approximately 6% of the vehicle’s value is labor content.
Research and Development (R&D) - This category looks at the location of a car’s R&D activities. If the model is a product of a US company, it receives a 6. If it is the product of a foreign company but is assembled in the U.S. it receives a 3; if it is a foreign import it receives a 1.
Inventory, Capital and other expenses - If assembly occurs in the US, the model receives an 11; if not, it receives a 0.
Engine - If the engine is produced in the US, the model receives a 14; if not it receives a 0.
Transmission - If the transmission is produced in the US, the model receives a 7; if not it receives a 0.
Body, Chassis, and Electrical Components - 50 % of a vehicle’s score is assigned to this category. The AALA percentage is divided into two to derive this score.
Labor - This category considers where the car is assembled. If a model is assembled in the US, it receives a 6. If not, the model receives a 0. We assume that approximately 6% of the vehicle’s value is labor content.
Research and Development (R&D) - This category looks at the location of a car’s R&D activities. If the model is a product of a US company, it receives a 6. If it is the product of a foreign company but is assembled in the U.S. it receives a 3; if it is a foreign import it receives a 1.
Inventory, Capital and other expenses - If assembly occurs in the US, the model receives an 11; if not, it receives a 0.
Engine - If the engine is produced in the US, the model receives a 14; if not it receives a 0.
Transmission - If the transmission is produced in the US, the model receives a 7; if not it receives a 0.
Body, Chassis, and Electrical Components - 50 % of a vehicle’s score is assigned to this category. The AALA percentage is divided into two to derive this score.
"This index is an alternative ranking system that provides consumers with the most accurate reflection of the true country of origin of a car and the impact of its purchase on the U.S. economy, and helps consumers make sense of automakers' marketing claims," said DuBois.
The Buick Enclave, GMC Acadia, Chevrolet Traverse, Ford F-150 and Chevy Corvette rank as the top most American-made car models, according to the 2017 Kogod Made in America Auto Index. The Enclave, Acadia and Traverse tied for first, with the Ford F-150 and Corvette ranked second and third, respectively.
Other cars in this year's top-10 include several models of Fiat-Chrysler's Wrangler (4th and 5th), Ford's Expedition (5th also), and Navigator and Taurus at 6th. Cadillac placed two cars at 7th along with the Four Wheel drive Chevy Colorado pickup. Jeep's Cherokee is at 8th position and 3 Hondas (the CRV, Pilot and Ridgeline) and the Toyota Camry tied for 9th. Ford's Explorer and the Chevy Malibu Hybrid round out the top 10 for 2017.
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01-20-2018, 01:17 PM
#83
Damn right!
01-21-2018, 12:38 AM
#84
Melting Slicks
Maybe they are trying to copy Ferrari. LaFerrari is a hybrid. Would be okay with me if they copied it.
https://www.guideautoweb.com/en/make.../gallery/?im=1
https://www.guideautoweb.com/en/make.../gallery/?im=1
01-21-2018, 08:33 AM
#85
Melting Slicks
It's the future, for sure. I don't ever want to see an all electric corvette, but if they can boost performance by making it hybrid then why not.
01-21-2018, 10:56 AM
#86
Race Director
Maybe they are trying to copy Ferrari. LaFerrari is a hybrid. Would be okay with me if they copied it.
https://www.guideautoweb.com/en/make.../gallery/?im=1
https://www.guideautoweb.com/en/make.../gallery/?im=1
LaF is a lemon cus the hybrid design was built to be driven very often but owners don’t drive them very often causing the batteries not to charge well. Maybe 918 better.
Lambo, Pagani & Bugatti are not hybrid.
01-21-2018, 11:21 AM
#87
Being the skeptic of all things political, it's shocking how difficult it is to find objective analysis of these emerging technologies. Man are we being propagandized! Hope it's getting through that google, facebook and other sources are manipulating data and search results.
I was just reading some crap trying to make the point that EV batteries in any practical sense never go bad or wear out, nothing to see here so don't worry about disposal, recycling and replacement costs. On the whole it's reported to be all upside for clearly political reasons.
I was just reading some crap trying to make the point that EV batteries in any practical sense never go bad or wear out, nothing to see here so don't worry about disposal, recycling and replacement costs. On the whole it's reported to be all upside for clearly political reasons.
01-22-2018, 08:12 AM
#88
Instructor
Sadly it seems everybody is getting on the hybrid or full electric band wagon.
Audi, Porsche, Jaguar all left LeMans to race in Formula E
In 20 years it may not even be possible to buy a car w an internal combustion engine
Those will be sad days, at least I'll probably be too old to care by then
Audi, Porsche, Jaguar all left LeMans to race in Formula E
In 20 years it may not even be possible to buy a car w an internal combustion engine
Those will be sad days, at least I'll probably be too old to care by then
This means that if you buy an IC motor vehicle in the near future, it will be restricted in its use and possibly penalised for (possibly scrapped recycled after 10 years life) what it is, and as such it will become worthless.
What we do have this year in May, is the new 'Historic Vehicle' category. This means that a vehicle over 40 years old is exempt from an annual test and licencing, so if the above restrictions kick in for real, vehicles with a Historic ticket will increase in value hugely..
Car manufacturers in the US need to get on with good electric vehicle production if they wish to sell outside the US in any number including the Corvette.
01-22-2018, 10:26 AM
#90
Le Mans Master
Originally Posted by exitwound
Here in the UK, sales of internal combustion engines will be banned from 2032. Other euro countries are doing this also and definitely before 2040. On top of this there will be restrictions on the use of current IC motors (how this affects the commercial guys, I've no idea).
This means that if you buy an IC motor vehicle in the near future, it will be restricted in its use and possibly penalised for (possibly scrapped recycled after 10 years life) what it is, and as such it will become worthless.
What we do have this year in May, is the new 'Historic Vehicle' category. This means that a vehicle over 40 years old is exempt from an annual test and licencing, so if the above restrictions kick in for real, vehicles with a Historic ticket will increase in value hugely..
Car manufacturers in the US need to get on with good electric vehicle production if they wish to sell outside the US in any number including the Corvette.
This means that if you buy an IC motor vehicle in the near future, it will be restricted in its use and possibly penalised for (possibly scrapped recycled after 10 years life) what it is, and as such it will become worthless.
What we do have this year in May, is the new 'Historic Vehicle' category. This means that a vehicle over 40 years old is exempt from an annual test and licencing, so if the above restrictions kick in for real, vehicles with a Historic ticket will increase in value hugely..
Car manufacturers in the US need to get on with good electric vehicle production if they wish to sell outside the US in any number including the Corvette.
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France: The government says that it wants to end sales of gas and diesel-powered vehicles by 2040 as it fights global warming.
After that date, automakers will only be allowed to sell cars that run on electricity or other cleaner power. Hybrid cars will also be permitted.
Nicolas Hulot, the government official in charge of France's "ecological transition," said the goal would help the nation's automakers "innovate and become market leaders."
The share of cars powered by electric, hybrid and alternative fuels in France is small -- about 4% -- but growing fast. Sales of those vehicles were up 25% in the first quarter of 2017.
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01-22-2018, 12:35 PM
#91
Safety Car
Sales of electrical vehicles in the U.S., compared to total vehicles sales, were 1% last year.
01-22-2018, 12:36 PM
#92
Race Director
"Hybrid cars will also be permitted."
Consumers and manufacturers are remarkably clever. Sounds like you could drive a truck through this loophole -- which will only be necessary if somehow non-IC powerplants and their required infrastructure have not obliterated IC by 2040!
Consumers and manufacturers are remarkably clever. Sounds like you could drive a truck through this loophole -- which will only be necessary if somehow non-IC powerplants and their required infrastructure have not obliterated IC by 2040!
Last edited by Rapid Fred; 01-22-2018 at 12:37 PM.
01-23-2018, 08:40 AM
#93
Instructor
What we do have in the UK is a growing electrification of classic vehicles.
Mostly private companies, but now Jaguar themselves are buying old E-Types and converting them. Its no coincidence that Jaguar are owned by TATA and India itself is banning sales of new IC vehicles from 2025.
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...-goes-electric
The guys in the UK with barn stored MG/TR/AH's will suddenly find them worth a great deal if we get a choice of a Prius or an electrified classic..
Mostly private companies, but now Jaguar themselves are buying old E-Types and converting them. Its no coincidence that Jaguar are owned by TATA and India itself is banning sales of new IC vehicles from 2025.
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...-goes-electric
The guys in the UK with barn stored MG/TR/AH's will suddenly find them worth a great deal if we get a choice of a Prius or an electrified classic..
01-23-2018, 09:15 AM
#94
What we do have in the UK is a growing electrification of classic vehicles.
Mostly private companies, but now Jaguar themselves are buying old E-Types and converting them. Its no coincidence that Jaguar are owned by TATA and India itself is banning sales of new IC vehicles from 2025.
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...-goes-electric
The guys in the UK with barn stored MG/TR/AH's will suddenly find them worth a great deal if we get a choice of a Prius or an electrified classic..
Mostly private companies, but now Jaguar themselves are buying old E-Types and converting them. Its no coincidence that Jaguar are owned by TATA and India itself is banning sales of new IC vehicles from 2025.
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...-goes-electric
The guys in the UK with barn stored MG/TR/AH's will suddenly find them worth a great deal if we get a choice of a Prius or an electrified classic..
On the bright side, maybe they will start making some reproduction parts that actually fit on those rust buckets.
01-23-2018, 10:59 AM
#95
Instructor
https://rimmerbros.com/ItemList--Tri...tings--m-13145
The electrification starts here (for the UK anyway, we have to make the best of our nanny state)..
https://www.electricclassiccars.co.uk/
http://www.electricvanandcar.co.uk/home.html#content
Last edited by exitwound; 01-23-2018 at 11:01 AM.
01-23-2018, 12:28 PM
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Enough with the Mustang talk already!!!!! Who here really cares and if you care that much why are you here? Mustangs have just never counted in my book. A nice sporty car if you like them, I bought my daughter one years ago but they're insignificant to me.
01-23-2018, 12:48 PM
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01-23-2018, 04:29 PM
#98
Le Mans Master
Originally Posted by BearZ06
Enough with the Mustang talk already!!!!! Who here really cares and if you care that much why are you here? Mustangs have just never counted in my book. A nice sporty car if you like them, I bought my daughter one years ago but they're insignificant to me.