New Spy Photos Show C8 Mid Engine Corvette as Engineers Scramble to Cover it
10-17-2017, 04:29 PM
#241
GM won't have any problem selling those.
10-20-2017, 01:56 PM
#243
10-20-2017, 03:03 PM
#244
Team Owner
10-20-2017, 03:15 PM
#245
Thanks.
I was reading that some reports say the C8 is going into production late January 2018 !
Anyone have any inside info?
I was reading that some reports say the C8 is going into production late January 2018 !
Anyone have any inside info?
10-20-2017, 05:09 PM
#246
Safety Car
Another media “click bait” article, compounded by very wrong information. They erroneously quoted the Bowling Green Daily News, that latter which correctly stated that the 2019 C7’s were going to start production the week of January 29th.
Last edited by elegant; 10-20-2017 at 05:10 PM.
10-21-2017, 06:15 AM
#248
Race Director
Bottom line the 6 th gen camaro chassis is so good it's hard to keep corvette as top dog within the GM family.
Moving to rear mid engine design should allow both products to evolve further.
Watch as the mustang is evolving into more of a sleek 2 plus 2 vehicle and less of a pony car ...and sure as it's price tag evolves so does it's design ...all in an effort to attract new buyers ...
This is what GM is doing with the rear mid engine design...
We ve been hearing about, reading about rear mid engine corvettes for 40 odd years...time for it to happen...
I'm not worried that it will only be 150 grand....as I'm sure with time...a 500 hp LT1 will find its way into the rear engine compartment for normal Americans to purchase,
Many of us think 150 grand for any car is ridiculous...lol
10-21-2017, 09:19 AM
#249
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If GM was worried about the sales of vetts they would advertise it more. When was the last time you saw a commercial on the Corvette. Nothing but truck commercials and occasionally one on the Camero
10-21-2017, 12:51 PM
#250
10-21-2017, 01:30 PM
#251
I keep looking at the picture of the camoed Rear mid engine mule.
I wonder what the door configuration is. What we see is a large FLAT panel with one body line about a 1/4 of the was down from the belt mldg.
I just don't believe that such a featureless design could be what GM has come up with.
Also the peaks of fenders and 1/4 panel look very squareed off.
I truly believe that GM is going to knock it out of the park with this revolutionary design.
That's being said the more I look at photo of the prototypes the harder time I have trying to picture what the final design will be.
I know the C7 is edgey and lots of sharp lines. Maybe that is the direction GM decided to go.
Even the rear deck and Glass look far to square.
I really hope we get a look at what really coming for sale in late 18 or early 19 sooner rather than later.
These prototypes seem to far along to be much more than a year out.
I looked at the camouflage C7 and you could really see the general outline now that we know what it looks like.
I don't think any rendering we have seen so far that looks like what we see in the C8 camo.
Common GM show us what we have coming. At this point true Corvette enthusiasts know something radically different is on the way and I believe it's got to really hurt C7 sales .
Maybe 1st time Corvette buyers don't know about the mid engine but true Corvette guys know and their not going to buy a C7 until they see what's next.
I wonder what the door configuration is. What we see is a large FLAT panel with one body line about a 1/4 of the was down from the belt mldg.
I just don't believe that such a featureless design could be what GM has come up with.
Also the peaks of fenders and 1/4 panel look very squareed off.
I truly believe that GM is going to knock it out of the park with this revolutionary design.
That's being said the more I look at photo of the prototypes the harder time I have trying to picture what the final design will be.
I know the C7 is edgey and lots of sharp lines. Maybe that is the direction GM decided to go.
Even the rear deck and Glass look far to square.
I really hope we get a look at what really coming for sale in late 18 or early 19 sooner rather than later.
These prototypes seem to far along to be much more than a year out.
I looked at the camouflage C7 and you could really see the general outline now that we know what it looks like.
I don't think any rendering we have seen so far that looks like what we see in the C8 camo.
Common GM show us what we have coming. At this point true Corvette enthusiasts know something radically different is on the way and I believe it's got to really hurt C7 sales .
Maybe 1st time Corvette buyers don't know about the mid engine but true Corvette guys know and their not going to buy a C7 until they see what's next.
Last edited by vetteman41960; 10-21-2017 at 01:32 PM.
10-21-2017, 01:48 PM
#252
16 Vettes and counting…..
I keep looking at the picture of the camoed Rear mid engine mule.
I wonder what the door configuration is. What we see is a large FLAT panel with one body line about a 1/4 of the was down from the belt mldg.
I just don't believe that such a featureless design could be what GM has come up with.
Also the peaks of fenders and 1/4 panel look very squareed off.
I truly believe that GM is going to knock it out of the park with this revolutionary design.
That's being said the more I look at photo of the prototypes the harder time I have trying to picture what the final design will be.
I know the C7 is edgey and lots of sharp lines. Maybe that is the direction GM decided to go.
Even the rear deck and Glass look far to square.
I really hope we get a look at what really coming for sale in late 18 or early 19 sooner rather than later.
These prototypes seem to far along to be much more than a year out.
I looked at the camouflage C7 and you could really see the general outline now that we know what it looks like.
I don't think any rendering we have seen so far that looks like what we see in the C8 camo.
Common GM show us what we have coming. At this point true Corvette enthusiasts know something radically different is on the way and I believe it's got to really hurt C7 sales .
Maybe 1st time Corvette buyers don't know about the mid engine but true Corvette guys know and their not going to buy a C7 until they see what's next.
I wonder what the door configuration is. What we see is a large FLAT panel with one body line about a 1/4 of the was down from the belt mldg.
I just don't believe that such a featureless design could be what GM has come up with.
Also the peaks of fenders and 1/4 panel look very squareed off.
I truly believe that GM is going to knock it out of the park with this revolutionary design.
That's being said the more I look at photo of the prototypes the harder time I have trying to picture what the final design will be.
I know the C7 is edgey and lots of sharp lines. Maybe that is the direction GM decided to go.
Even the rear deck and Glass look far to square.
I really hope we get a look at what really coming for sale in late 18 or early 19 sooner rather than later.
These prototypes seem to far along to be much more than a year out.
I looked at the camouflage C7 and you could really see the general outline now that we know what it looks like.
I don't think any rendering we have seen so far that looks like what we see in the C8 camo.
Common GM show us what we have coming. At this point true Corvette enthusiasts know something radically different is on the way and I believe it's got to really hurt C7 sales .
Maybe 1st time Corvette buyers don't know about the mid engine but true Corvette guys know and their not going to buy a C7 until they see what's next.
Wasn't it stated somewhere that factory tours will begin again about year from now? If that's the case, they may have nothing to hide at that point.
If the ZR1 is revealed before Detroit, either at SEMA or Los Angeles, then there is the chance that the ME will be Chevy's big reveal in Detroit and production may begin in the fall....a year from now.
10-21-2017, 02:18 PM
#253
Wasn't it stated somewhere that factory tours will begin again about year from now? If that's the case, they may have nothing to hide at that point.
If the ZR1 is revealed before Detroit, either at SEMA or Los Angeles, then there is the chance that the ME will be Chevy's big reveal in Detroit and production may begin in the fall....a year from now.
If the ZR1 is revealed before Detroit, either at SEMA or Los Angeles, then there is the chance that the ME will be Chevy's big reveal in Detroit and production may begin in the fall....a year from now.
Honestly I think that there is very little excitement out there when it's concerning the C7 ZRI.
We all know it a bigger blower more horsepower C7.
What we don't know is will the Rear Mid engine have a DOCH engine and hopefully a true well designed duel clutch transmission that is on part with the PDK?
I would be suprised to see the ZR1 sell in any volume.
Real Corvette guys are excited about the rear mid prototype and an revolutionary advancement for the Corvette.
I love my C7 Callaway and plan to keep it. But I am really excited about the C8 Mid engine.
My only hope is that GM breaks from traditional roll out and introduces a true halo Vett right out of the gate then followed later by less expensive models more in line with C7 pricing.
I am not sure many will want to buy the Rear mid engine right away unless it is the top dog in the Vett lineup?
I wonder what my fellow Corvette enthusiasts want 1st the Halo Vett or an entry level mid engine.
It would be odd that the newest most advanced Corvette is sold for less money and have less performance capability than the current generation assuming they are really for sale side by side as new models.
GM sure has all us Vett enthusiasts guessing at what's to come in next 12 to 24 months.
I don't think that will be good for C7 sales but I could be wrong!
What do you guys want the rear mid top of line right away or the traditional roll out of lesser models followed by the high performance model 1 2 or 3 years later??
I remember that when the C7 arrived on dealership lots we could not sell our left over C6 even at break even. Many dealership where taking a loss on remaining C6 sales just so our allocation of C7 would be higher.
GM allocates new inventory based on prior year model sales.
So dealership that stocked up on C6 inventory to increase their allocation of C7 really to a loss on the remaining C6 in inventory as soon as the 1st C7 hit our lots.
Last edited by vetteman41960; 10-21-2017 at 02:30 PM.
10-21-2017, 04:04 PM
#254
I sure hope your correct and we see the new rear mid engine Vett in January.
Honestly I think that there is very little excitement out there when it's concerning the C7 ZRI.
We all know it a bigger blower more horsepower C7.
What we don't know is will the Rear Mid engine have a DOCH engine and hopefully a true well designed duel clutch transmission that is on part with the PDK?
I would be suprised to see the ZR1 sell in any volume.
Real Corvette guys are excited about the rear mid prototype and an revolutionary advancement for the Corvette.
I love my C7 Callaway and plan to keep it. But I am really excited about the C8 Mid engine.
My only hope is that GM breaks from traditional roll out and introduces a true halo Vett right out of the gate then followed later by less expensive models more in line with C7 pricing.
I am not sure many will want to buy the Rear mid engine right away unless it is the top dog in the Vett lineup?
I wonder what my fellow Corvette enthusiasts want 1st the Halo Vett or an entry level mid engine.
It would be odd that the newest most advanced Corvette is sold for less money and have less performance capability than the current generation assuming they are really for sale side by side as new models.
GM sure has all us Vett enthusiasts guessing at what's to come in next 12 to 24 months.
I don't think that will be good for C7 sales but I could be wrong!
What do you guys want the rear mid top of line right away or the traditional roll out of lesser models followed by the high performance model 1 2 or 3 years later??
I remember that when the C7 arrived on dealership lots we could not sell our left over C6 even at break even. Many dealership where taking a loss on remaining C6 sales just so our allocation of C7 would be higher.
GM allocates new inventory based on prior year model sales.
So dealership that stocked up on C6 inventory to increase their allocation of C7 really to a loss on the remaining C6 in inventory as soon as the 1st C7 hit our lots.
Honestly I think that there is very little excitement out there when it's concerning the C7 ZRI.
We all know it a bigger blower more horsepower C7.
What we don't know is will the Rear Mid engine have a DOCH engine and hopefully a true well designed duel clutch transmission that is on part with the PDK?
I would be suprised to see the ZR1 sell in any volume.
Real Corvette guys are excited about the rear mid prototype and an revolutionary advancement for the Corvette.
I love my C7 Callaway and plan to keep it. But I am really excited about the C8 Mid engine.
My only hope is that GM breaks from traditional roll out and introduces a true halo Vett right out of the gate then followed later by less expensive models more in line with C7 pricing.
I am not sure many will want to buy the Rear mid engine right away unless it is the top dog in the Vett lineup?
I wonder what my fellow Corvette enthusiasts want 1st the Halo Vett or an entry level mid engine.
It would be odd that the newest most advanced Corvette is sold for less money and have less performance capability than the current generation assuming they are really for sale side by side as new models.
GM sure has all us Vett enthusiasts guessing at what's to come in next 12 to 24 months.
I don't think that will be good for C7 sales but I could be wrong!
What do you guys want the rear mid top of line right away or the traditional roll out of lesser models followed by the high performance model 1 2 or 3 years later??
I remember that when the C7 arrived on dealership lots we could not sell our left over C6 even at break even. Many dealership where taking a loss on remaining C6 sales just so our allocation of C7 would be higher.
GM allocates new inventory based on prior year model sales.
So dealership that stocked up on C6 inventory to increase their allocation of C7 really to a loss on the remaining C6 in inventory as soon as the 1st C7 hit our lots.
10-21-2017, 07:45 PM
#255
Very exciting stuff
Any ideas or can anyone tell from the pics if it could be AWD?
Any ideas or can anyone tell from the pics if it could be AWD?
10-21-2017, 08:01 PM
#256
16 Vettes and counting…..
I sure hope your correct and we see the new rear mid engine Vett in January.
Honestly I think that there is very little excitement out there when it's concerning the C7 ZRI.
We all know it a bigger blower more horsepower C7.
What we don't know is will the Rear Mid engine have a DOCH engine and hopefully a true well designed duel clutch transmission that is on part with the PDK?
I would be suprised to see the ZR1 sell in any volume.
Real Corvette guys are excited about the rear mid prototype and an revolutionary advancement for the Corvette.
I love my C7 Callaway and plan to keep it. But I am really excited about the C8 Mid engine.
My only hope is that GM breaks from traditional roll out and introduces a true halo Vett right out of the gate then followed later by less expensive models more in line with C7 pricing.
I am not sure many will want to buy the Rear mid engine right away unless it is the top dog in the Vett lineup?
I wonder what my fellow Corvette enthusiasts want 1st the Halo Vett or an entry level mid engine.
It would be odd that the newest most advanced Corvette is sold for less money and have less performance capability than the current generation assuming they are really for sale side by side as new models.
GM sure has all us Vett enthusiasts guessing at what's to come in next 12 to 24 months.
I don't think that will be good for C7 sales but I could be wrong!
What do you guys want the rear mid top of line right away or the traditional roll out of lesser models followed by the high performance model 1 2 or 3 years later??
I remember that when the C7 arrived on dealership lots we could not sell our left over C6 even at break even. Many dealership where taking a loss on remaining C6 sales just so our allocation of C7 would be higher.
GM allocates new inventory based on prior year model sales.
So dealership that stocked up on C6 inventory to increase their allocation of C7 really to a loss on the remaining C6 in inventory as soon as the 1st C7 hit our lots.
Honestly I think that there is very little excitement out there when it's concerning the C7 ZRI.
We all know it a bigger blower more horsepower C7.
What we don't know is will the Rear Mid engine have a DOCH engine and hopefully a true well designed duel clutch transmission that is on part with the PDK?
I would be suprised to see the ZR1 sell in any volume.
Real Corvette guys are excited about the rear mid prototype and an revolutionary advancement for the Corvette.
I love my C7 Callaway and plan to keep it. But I am really excited about the C8 Mid engine.
My only hope is that GM breaks from traditional roll out and introduces a true halo Vett right out of the gate then followed later by less expensive models more in line with C7 pricing.
I am not sure many will want to buy the Rear mid engine right away unless it is the top dog in the Vett lineup?
I wonder what my fellow Corvette enthusiasts want 1st the Halo Vett or an entry level mid engine.
It would be odd that the newest most advanced Corvette is sold for less money and have less performance capability than the current generation assuming they are really for sale side by side as new models.
GM sure has all us Vett enthusiasts guessing at what's to come in next 12 to 24 months.
I don't think that will be good for C7 sales but I could be wrong!
What do you guys want the rear mid top of line right away or the traditional roll out of lesser models followed by the high performance model 1 2 or 3 years later??
I remember that when the C7 arrived on dealership lots we could not sell our left over C6 even at break even. Many dealership where taking a loss on remaining C6 sales just so our allocation of C7 would be higher.
GM allocates new inventory based on prior year model sales.
So dealership that stocked up on C6 inventory to increase their allocation of C7 really to a loss on the remaining C6 in inventory as soon as the 1st C7 hit our lots.
I go back and forth on the possible scenarios.
If they're going to continue the C7 as is, then a top of the line ME would be the logical move. I agree that the ZR1 is not earth shaking news at this point but will be a stunning addition to the FE lineup.
If there will eventually be only one Corvette, and it's ME, then introducing an entry level car would make the most sense.
The shortened 2018 model year and what could be a shortened 2019 as well is what has me confused.....well...THAT and too many margueritas.
My hope would be for a premium ME out of the gate, but there's just no telling what GM has planned. And then there the Cadillac element as well.
Who the ***** knows?
10-21-2017, 08:04 PM
#257
Race Director
That is my biggest fear as well. I have a deposit to be in line for the new ME. I just hope they don't start at the bottom and take 2-3 years to bring the good stuff ! I am hopeful as they have been seen testing the mules against a Porsche TurboS. If that is the bench mark I doubt it would be a base model! Anyway fingers crossed for a January reveal Im am way passed ready!
You ll be in luck...
No awd as far as mechanical awd but possibly electric powerplants at the front end..although acuras NSX with such technology has been a sales disaster..
Last edited by JerriVette; 10-21-2017 at 08:13 PM.
10-21-2017, 11:51 PM
#259
I agree and believe the new c8 rear mid engine will start selling top of the line models first and then two years down the road 500 hp standard models will appear in the showrooms...
You ll be in luck...
No awd as far as mechanical awd but possibly electric powerplants at the front end..although acuras NSX with such technology has been a sales disaster..
You ll be in luck...
No awd as far as mechanical awd but possibly electric powerplants at the front end..although acuras NSX with such technology has been a sales disaster..
Last edited by toddlaing; 10-21-2017 at 11:53 PM.
10-22-2017, 12:24 AM
#260
I think that pretty much the definition of a Corvette enthusiasts.
With the C7 being in it 4th year of the generation and the fact that the front mid engine Platform is maxed out performance wise.
I have a 16 Callaway SC 757 and there is no way the current platform can handled any more power and torque than the 757/777 that the SC757 currently puts out.
I can not imagine Corvette enthusiasts who are not excited about a truly revolutionary step in the Corvette heritage.
Looking forward to a true world class Rear Mid engine supercar and all the benefits that come with rear mid layout.
I can tell from experience that it's easier to drive a mid rear platform near the limits than it is to drive a C7 at or near it's limits.
So for an average driver like myself it more fun and much safer to drive the rear mid near the limits.
Makes an average guy like myself a much better driver.
Also I would think any Corvette enthusiasts would absolutely be excited about a rear mid engine. The driving experience will be complete different from all previous generations.
I have heard folk complain that the mid rear platform with be much less convenient and will lack luggage space.
I could care less about luggage space in my High performance super car. If I want to take a long trip I will drive my C7 or one of my other vehicles.
So I don't see luggage space as a big down side.
Last edited by vetteman41960; 10-22-2017 at 12:32 AM.