Is It Possible The Car is a New Design Z06 and Not a ZR1 at all?
09-04-2017, 11:06 AM
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Well...Two points:
1. Mr.Tapp doesn't know.
2. He called it a "ZR-1" not a "ZR1",
1. Mr.Tapp doesn't know.
2. He called it a "ZR-1" not a "ZR1",
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09-04-2017, 11:09 AM
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The C6 ZR1 is still the most track capable corvette ever at the moment, the C7Z(in auto form) shines on the drag strip, ZR1 is superior everywhere else.
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09-05-2017, 01:09 PM
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Best Nurburgring lap time (with JIM MERO driving) for the C6 ZR1 was 7:19:63
Best Nurburgring lap time (with Christian Gebhardt driving) for the C7 Z06 was 7:13:90
I would bet Mero could do a faster time than Gebhardt.
Best Nurburgring lap time (with Christian Gebhardt driving) for the C7 Z06 was 7:13:90
I would bet Mero could do a faster time than Gebhardt.
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09-05-2017, 03:55 PM
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The gap between the C6 Z06 and C6 ZR1 in terms of pricing was pretty wide. I just don't see that gap being maintained with the C7, since it wasn't with the C7 Z06. Plus, they want this thing to SELL! And pricing it very high relative to the rest of the model line is not the way to achieve that, imo.
Yeah, in the past they released the C6 ZR1 *before* the C6 Grand Sport! Okay, so I agree with the general point you're making. This is in all likelihood a ZR1 and not an improved Z06. And yes, the way they've done things in the past is a good indicator of how they will do them in the future. It's just not a guarantee. So as usual, until it's released, all any of us are doing is speculating.
09-05-2017, 04:15 PM
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09-05-2017, 04:19 PM
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Too bad you unsubscribed, because now you won't get the benefit of my keen and insightful observations!
The gap between the C6 Z06 and C6 ZR1 in terms of pricing was pretty wide. I just don't see that gap being maintained with the C7, since it wasn't with the C7 Z06. Plus, they want this thing to SELL! And pricing it very high relative to the rest of the model line is not the way to achieve that, imo.
Yeah, in the past they released the C6 ZR1 *before* the C6 Grand Sport! Okay, so I agree with the general point you're making. This is in all likelihood a ZR1 and not an improved Z06. And yes, the way they've done things in the past is a good indicator of how they will do them in the future. It's just not a guarantee. So as usual, until it's released, all any of us are doing is speculating.
The gap between the C6 Z06 and C6 ZR1 in terms of pricing was pretty wide. I just don't see that gap being maintained with the C7, since it wasn't with the C7 Z06. Plus, they want this thing to SELL! And pricing it very high relative to the rest of the model line is not the way to achieve that, imo.
Yeah, in the past they released the C6 ZR1 *before* the C6 Grand Sport! Okay, so I agree with the general point you're making. This is in all likelihood a ZR1 and not an improved Z06. And yes, the way they've done things in the past is a good indicator of how they will do them in the future. It's just not a guarantee. So as usual, until it's released, all any of us are doing is speculating.
09-05-2017, 06:32 PM
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When you say there's no need to speculate, what you're saying (in a practical sense) is that you know it's a ZR1. Of course you don't, unless you can predict the future. Translated, that means what you said is there's no need to speculate when speculating. Sort of ironic, imo.
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I just want to also mention that this isn't like when the C6 ZR1 speculation was taking place, because then we had the NA Z06 and the supercharged ZR1; the differences were obvious. In this case, IF Chevy wanted to fix the heat soak issues with the Z06, they *might* just do it. As you point out, unlikely. It's also likely they won't do any more than they've already done starting with model year 2017 to address the Z06. I know I'm being overly OCD, but I just don't like to state things as fact that aren't. Of course, you're still more than likely correct!
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09-05-2017, 07:09 PM
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Well, I was actually trying to agree with you. The chances are very high that we're looking at this being a ZR1. I was also making an additional point that we can't always go by the way Chevy has done things in the past, especially when they haven't done them that way recently.
When you say there's no need to speculate, what you're saying (in a practical sense) is that you know it's a ZR1. Of course you don't, unless you can predict the future. Translated, that means what you said is there's no need to speculate when speculating. Sort of ironic, imo.
*edit*
I just want to also mention that this isn't like when the C6 ZR1 speculation was taking place, because then we had the NA Z06 and the supercharged ZR1; the differences were obvious. In this case, IF Chevy wanted to fix the heat soak issues with the Z06, they *might* just do it. As you point out, unlikely. It's also likely they won't do any more than they've already done starting with model year 2017 to address the Z06. I know I'm being overly OCD, but I just don't like to state things as fact that aren't. Of course, you're still more than likely correct!
When you say there's no need to speculate, what you're saying (in a practical sense) is that you know it's a ZR1. Of course you don't, unless you can predict the future. Translated, that means what you said is there's no need to speculate when speculating. Sort of ironic, imo.
*edit*
I just want to also mention that this isn't like when the C6 ZR1 speculation was taking place, because then we had the NA Z06 and the supercharged ZR1; the differences were obvious. In this case, IF Chevy wanted to fix the heat soak issues with the Z06, they *might* just do it. As you point out, unlikely. It's also likely they won't do any more than they've already done starting with model year 2017 to address the Z06. I know I'm being overly OCD, but I just don't like to state things as fact that aren't. Of course, you're still more than likely correct!
i am quite sure it's a ZR1. Call it...intuition. Out ! )
09-06-2017, 03:38 PM
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I agree with you, but only up to a point... so it's just a matter of the degree of certainty. I'm this way with everything. I won't say 100% until I know it's 100%. That doesn't mean I'm not at a high number, even 99%. 