GM says they are going 100% electric
10-09-2017, 12:26 PM
#4
Melting Slicks
You will plug it in - drive it hard for 5 minutes (until the thermal limiter kicks in) - drive it sporty, but less hard for the next 2 hours (until the battery depletes) and then plug it in again.
After about 3 months of that, you will start searching for the last generation of gas powered Corvettes.
After about 3 months of that, you will start searching for the last generation of gas powered Corvettes.
10-09-2017, 02:01 PM
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I don’t believe they’ll go full electric. The U.S. won’t go full electric. All I can think about is the amount of jobs lost in banning gas and diesel vehicles. Every performance part company, every oil shop, gas stations. Drag strips and road courses will remain but it wouldn’t be the same. And I think sports like NASCAR would die because the V8s would be irrelevant. Motorsports would be so boring...
Electric motors are for Family cars and SUVs. Make them all electric and emissions would be down by 70%. Don’t get me started on autonomous cars
Electric motors are for Family cars and SUVs. Make them all electric and emissions would be down by 70%. Don’t get me started on autonomous cars
10-09-2017, 02:19 PM
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Due to the availability of FREE STUFF to buyers and manufacturers (called free money) most manufacturers want to go electric.
The car is not the problem, it's the infrastructure. It doesn't exist and can't handle the increased loads.
If everyone plugged in their car the ELECTRICAL GRIDS would collapse. (explode in flames)
The majority 90% of people will need to have their cars charged overnight, that's when SOLAR is not available so the grid must supply the power.
The grids cannot supply that kind of power and puff a major blackout.
The cost per mile will be more than a fuel vehicle and consumers will revolt.
As it is now the GREEN impact is less on a fuel vehicle than a RECHARGEABLE vehicle. (when you include the batteries and energy to recharge the vehicle)
If you are thinking SOLAR recharge - remember when most cars need to be recharged and that SOLAR panels contain SILICONES + heavy metals and the EMF that people complain about are now on your roof right above your bedroom.
In the future these things may work but in the near future technology is not advanced enough.
Just for fun check out the LITHIUM pit mines for the battery material.
Enough fun for one day....
The car is not the problem, it's the infrastructure. It doesn't exist and can't handle the increased loads.
If everyone plugged in their car the ELECTRICAL GRIDS would collapse. (explode in flames)
The majority 90% of people will need to have their cars charged overnight, that's when SOLAR is not available so the grid must supply the power.
The grids cannot supply that kind of power and puff a major blackout.
The cost per mile will be more than a fuel vehicle and consumers will revolt.
As it is now the GREEN impact is less on a fuel vehicle than a RECHARGEABLE vehicle. (when you include the batteries and energy to recharge the vehicle)
If you are thinking SOLAR recharge - remember when most cars need to be recharged and that SOLAR panels contain SILICONES + heavy metals and the EMF that people complain about are now on your roof right above your bedroom.
In the future these things may work but in the near future technology is not advanced enough.
Just for fun check out the LITHIUM pit mines for the battery material.
Enough fun for one day....
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10-09-2017, 04:19 PM
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GM Authority reporting that GM will come out with 20 new electric models between now and 2023. Says 3 new models will be out in the next 18 months. Food for thought on the expansion in WV.
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10-09-2017, 06:15 PM
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It seems we're hearing more and more companies (and Countries) claiming they plan to go fully electric by some future date.
For short distance runs this is probably doable, but what about long distance travel? At best a SuperCharger station yields 130 miles of range during a 30-40 minute charge. If a full charge is required figure at least 2 to 2.5 hours or so. And imagine the wait time if there's a few people ahead of you in line! Will this bring on Charging Station Rage events?
Or maybe just fully booked hotels? 
But until battery and charging technology improves perhaps each Charging Station will turn into their own individual Mall, complete with stores, restaurants, and movie theaters, giving EV owners something to do during charging process. Many movies would fit in a 2 1/2 hour period, wouldn't they?
For short distance runs this is probably doable, but what about long distance travel? At best a SuperCharger station yields 130 miles of range during a 30-40 minute charge. If a full charge is required figure at least 2 to 2.5 hours or so. And imagine the wait time if there's a few people ahead of you in line! Will this bring on Charging Station Rage events?
Or maybe just fully booked hotels? But until battery and charging technology improves perhaps each Charging Station will turn into their own individual Mall, complete with stores, restaurants, and movie theaters, giving EV owners something to do during charging process. Many movies would fit in a 2 1/2 hour period, wouldn't they?
10-09-2017, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by WKM
If this is true what then happens to the Next generation Corvette?
10-09-2017, 08:08 PM
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Burning Brakes
IC engines certainly won't go away overnight, but most will eventually. It's inevitable. Difference? Engine roar will becomes high pitched whine. Enjoy the roar while ya can!
10-09-2017, 08:59 PM
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10-09-2017, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Rave
Did you miss the part that said, "But GM said itÂ’s taking it a step further. The goal is to abandon the internal combustion engine entirely. At some point in the future, all of its products will draw power either from batteries or hydrogen."
IC engines certainly won't go away overnight, but most will eventually. It's inevitable. Difference? Engine roar will becomes high pitched whine. Enjoy the roar while ya can!
IC engines certainly won't go away overnight, but most will eventually. It's inevitable. Difference? Engine roar will becomes high pitched whine. Enjoy the roar while ya can!
10-10-2017, 07:56 AM
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10-10-2017, 10:13 AM
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Burning Brakes
It seems we're hearing more and more companies (and Countries) claiming they plan to go fully electric by some future date.
For short distance runs this is probably doable, but what about long distance travel? At best a SuperCharger station yields 130 miles of range during a 30-40 minute charge. If a full charge is required figure at least 2 to 2.5 hours or so. And imagine the wait time if there's a few people ahead of you in line! Will this bring on Charging Station Rage events? Or maybe just fully booked hotels?
But until battery and charging technology improves perhaps each Charging Station will turn into their own individual Mall, complete with stores, restaurants, and movie theaters, giving EV owners something to do during charging process. Many movies would fit in a 2 1/2 hour period, wouldn't they?
For short distance runs this is probably doable, but what about long distance travel? At best a SuperCharger station yields 130 miles of range during a 30-40 minute charge. If a full charge is required figure at least 2 to 2.5 hours or so. And imagine the wait time if there's a few people ahead of you in line! Will this bring on Charging Station Rage events?
Or maybe just fully booked hotels? But until battery and charging technology improves perhaps each Charging Station will turn into their own individual Mall, complete with stores, restaurants, and movie theaters, giving EV owners something to do during charging process. Many movies would fit in a 2 1/2 hour period, wouldn't they?
10-10-2017, 02:42 PM
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It's more like ten years from now. This stuff is moving incredibly fast. Battery power is increasing yearly by leaps and bounds. The cost of solar is dropping rapidly to the point that solar is starting to make sense even in places like Seattle. Most travel is commuting, and that is mostly 50 miles or less per day, well within range. Your plug-in is already in your garage. If you recharge after midnight the grid will barely be affected. You can do all this today with a Bolt. Fact: My cousin has a Model S and solar on his roof. He's off the grid--in Seattle--today.
Long distance travel DOES NOT MATTER. By the time your gas engines actually go completely away (AFTER ten years) a single charge will cover a day's worth of driving and there will be charging stations at every motel. It's a false issue not even worth discussing. The rate of change is increasing exponentially. It starts out slow, but then comes on like a freight train. Hang onto your hats because this is going to be one wild ride.
Long distance travel DOES NOT MATTER. By the time your gas engines actually go completely away (AFTER ten years) a single charge will cover a day's worth of driving and there will be charging stations at every motel. It's a false issue not even worth discussing. The rate of change is increasing exponentially. It starts out slow, but then comes on like a freight train. Hang onto your hats because this is going to be one wild ride.
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10-10-2017, 04:03 PM
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Due to the availability of FREE STUFF to buyers and manufacturers (called free money) most manufacturers want to go electric.
The car is not the problem, it's the infrastructure. It doesn't exist and can't handle the increased loads.
If everyone plugged in their car the ELECTRICAL GRIDS would collapse. (explode in flames)
The majority 90% of people will need to have their cars charged overnight, that's when SOLAR is not available so the grid must supply the power.
The grids cannot supply that kind of power and puff a major blackout.
The cost per mile will be more than a fuel vehicle and consumers will revolt.
As it is now the GREEN impact is less on a fuel vehicle than a RECHARGEABLE vehicle. (when you include the batteries and energy to recharge the vehicle)
If you are thinking SOLAR recharge - remember when most cars need to be recharged and that SOLAR panels contain SILICONES + heavy metals and the EMF that people complain about are now on your roof right above your bedroom.
In the future these things may work but in the near future technology is not advanced enough.
Just for fun check out the LITHIUM pit mines for the battery material.
Enough fun for one day....
The car is not the problem, it's the infrastructure. It doesn't exist and can't handle the increased loads.
If everyone plugged in their car the ELECTRICAL GRIDS would collapse. (explode in flames)
The majority 90% of people will need to have their cars charged overnight, that's when SOLAR is not available so the grid must supply the power.
The grids cannot supply that kind of power and puff a major blackout.
The cost per mile will be more than a fuel vehicle and consumers will revolt.
As it is now the GREEN impact is less on a fuel vehicle than a RECHARGEABLE vehicle. (when you include the batteries and energy to recharge the vehicle)
If you are thinking SOLAR recharge - remember when most cars need to be recharged and that SOLAR panels contain SILICONES + heavy metals and the EMF that people complain about are now on your roof right above your bedroom.
In the future these things may work but in the near future technology is not advanced enough.
Just for fun check out the LITHIUM pit mines for the battery material.
Enough fun for one day....
Absolutely True, the load on the grids from 7:00 pm to midnight would be huge... and as far as solar goes, the sun don't shine much during that time. Besides, since oil is NOT a fossil fuel, contrary to one of the many lies that we are feed, it's still much more economically advantageous to use gasoline.
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