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Old 10-30-2017, 02:15 AM
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Can those who envision a ME being revealed this coming January, be it Corvette or Cadillac, imagine if after the overheating issues Corvettes have at least had on the track for supercharged motors since the C6 ZR1 was revealed (admittedly under very infrequent occurrences), that the mid-engine which has its motor totally enclosed, were to similarly have overheating issues?
Not gonna be a problem...the Caddy hybrid will have a V6 Turbo.
Look at the delay after delay in the ZR1’s release. You think proper cooling was not a factor in those delays???
Could be...we just don't know at this point.

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One thing that we can be sure of GM will milk the free advertising for as long as possible. All of this speculation couldn't be generated no matter how much they paid for adds.

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How TRUE.
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Originally Posted by G fix needy
From the NCM... "No major changes are coming for 2019 as models, colors and options from 2018 will carry over".., so they're being "misinformed" by GM?....
My sales rep had reached out to GM’s Performance Division Marketing team about this and their response was, “no major changes to Stingray, Z51, GS and Z06.”

With GM you have to read inbetween the lines. I interpret it as there may be no major changes to existing models, but there will be a new model (ZR1)!

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There will be a ZR1, and sooner than many think. However, if one were to ask GM even the day before it is revealed, they would that day deny that there is such a model coming in the future.

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Originally Posted by elegant
There will be a ZR1, and sooner than many think. However, if one were to ask GM even the day before it is revealed, they would that day deny that there is such a model coming in the future.
They do an excellent job at keeping it hush hush. Even my GM rep claims she is out of the loop.
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PM sent to you.
send me one too? Lol
Old 11-06-2017, 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by elegant
However, if one were to ask GM even the day before it is revealed, they would that day deny that there is such a model coming in the future.
How very true.
Old 11-06-2017, 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by sunsalem
I believe the CADDY mid-engine will debut in Detroit in Jan.


You're right.
be yet another failed cadillac sports car to add to the previous bombs.
Old 11-06-2017, 10:32 AM
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Give 'em a chance...it could work.

The head of Cadillac is this guy:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/johan-de-nysschen-6910704
He was previously the head of Audi in North America.
He has stated Cadillac's goal is to compete with the German brands.
Last January, he let it slip a 2-seat high-performer was on the way.

I have owned several new Cadillacs during the last 20 years.
Dependable, stylish, some were sporty, and all were nice to drive and turned heads wherever I went.
I would not hesitate to buy another.
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Old 11-06-2017, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by sunsalem
Give 'em a chance...it could work.

The head of Cadillac is this guy:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/johan-de-nysschen-6910704
He was previously the head of Audi in North America.
He has stated Cadillac's goal is to compete with the German brands.
Last January, he let it slip a 2-seat high-performer was on the way.

I have owned several new Cadillacs during the last 20 years.
Dependable, stylish, some were sporty, and all were nice to drive and turned heads wherever I went.
I would not hesitate to buy another.
Question: which way did the heads turn? Away?
Old 11-06-2017, 11:44 AM
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There's always a comedian in every crowd...
Old 11-06-2017, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by TBIRD57
be yet another failed cadillac sports car to add to the previous bombs.
Yes, I've made a similar post on another thread. Cadillac's track record for sports cars is awful. You have to scratch your head when they take the C5 frame for the XLR and stick an elderly Northstar in it instead of the LS1 that was in the sister C5. Especially when Corvette was getting ready to move on to the C2. Just really bad decision making.
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I really don't think the car we have been seeing running around is a Cadillac. However, if it is a Caddy you can count me out!! There as never been a true Cadillac sports car so why start now? That and the Caddy styling it horrible.
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I am not worried, i.e., there will be a Corvette mid-engine! Whether a couple of years after the Corvette’s ME 2020 model year reveal, we get a Cadillac version, remains a question.
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Originally Posted by roadbike56
You have to scratch your head when they take the C5 frame for the XLR and stick an elderly Northstar in it instead of the LS1 that was in the sister C5.
How much power was in the C5?
The Northstar in the XLR was rated at 320hp.
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Originally Posted by elegant
Can those who envision a ME being revealed this coming January, be it Corvette or Cadillac, imagine if after the overheating issues Corvettes have at least had on the track for supercharged motors since the C6 ZR1 was revealed (admittedly under very infrequent occurrences), that the mid-engine which has its motor totally enclosed, were to similarly have overheating issues?

Look at the delay after delay in the ZR1’s release. You think proper cooling was not a factor in those delays???

As Fasttoys1 (who has had many ME)’s has shared, engine overheating is a major, MAJOR potential ME issue. Remember the 780+ Porsche GT3’s, a few of which burned to the pavement, having every one of their motors (and maybe more) replaced?

For this potential overheating reason alone, there will not be a ME reveal for at least a year, more probably not until 443 days from now at January, 2019’s NAIAS.

I would rather wait another year and have all ME issues fully sorted out before they go into customer hands.
Two things: GT3s like all 911s are rear engined, not ME. Also they run incredibly cool, both water and engine oil, on a road course, unlike the C7 Z06.

The cause of the engine fires in the initial run of 2014 GT3s was incorrectly torqued connecting rod bolts iirc, and Porsche replaced every engine even though only 3-4 cars actually caught fire. Later engine failures have been caused by finger follower failure resulting in top end damage, and the 991.1 GT3 now has an extended warranty for 10 years and 100,000 (unlimited?) miles on that specific failure.

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Originally Posted by toddlaing
I really don't think the car we have been seeing running around is a Cadillac. However, if it is a Caddy you can count me out!! There as never been a true Cadillac sports car so why start now? That and the Caddy styling it horrible.


Well they already have a styling winner in my book. I wish they made this car. Cien concept.

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Old 11-06-2017, 11:11 PM
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That Cadillac Cien was a masterpiece of styling....wow!

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Yes, it was.
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There will be a ME from GM and there will be a ZR reveal SOON. That is all

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Originally Posted by DebRedZR1
There will be a ME from GM and there will be a ZR reveal SOON. That is all
teaser in T minus 2 days!


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