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Old 11-17-2017, 10:19 AM
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Default Corvette, time to go at least hybrid NOW (new roadster)

Tesla just announced the new roadster and it is out of this world. 0-60 in 1.9s, quarter mile in 8.9s, top speed over 250, and a 620 mile range. It even has back seats and a targa top! I haven't been the biggest fan of tesla in the past but they just **** on pretty much every other car and is a giant f-you to all other auto manufactures.

Corvette, take note, you need to at least go hybrid right now. When the c8 comes out, there needs to be at least a hybrid option. I personally don't want the corvette to go full electric just yet because I'm just not quite ready to let go of the sound and the aftermarket support for modability on electric cars is still tiny and I love to mod my cars. So hybrid is what we at least need and a full electric needs to come out soon after the introduction of the c8 so around 2025 or so.

Im still trying to comprehend this new roadster. The performance is just so unbelievable. I honestly think the only cars that can hold a candle to it are the Mercedes project one, Aston Martin Valkyrie, and a koenigsegg. Even then they all lose under like 130 or so and it takes being above that or around a track for the Mercedes and Aston to win. This car is also only $200k! I would still like to see some other secs on the car like the weight, skid pad and handling, and if they have solved all the overheating issues, and max motor rpm to see if they made a new motor that can spin faster to get that top speed while keeping its very useful 9.73:1 ratio or if they lowered the ratio.

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Maybe they should just focus on ACTUALLY BUILDING the cars they've already taken deposits on
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Old 11-17-2017, 06:12 PM
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Ah, Tesla! The over hype, over promise, under deliver company. They should tone down all their proclamations, just last week I heard about their electric semi truck. They have soooo many issues with QC and service backup with the model S and X, it's a joke what their customers have to put up with. There are a lot of fanboys, but the Model 3 will probably put a serious hurt in the company because mainstream consumers (as opposed to early adopters who have given them free passes) will not tolerate repeated service center visits, for the same issues, and waiting months for parts to arrive.
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Seems like I remember Car & Driver had a Tesla at VIR for a Lightning Lap and it finished dead last.
Old 11-17-2017, 10:53 PM
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The c8 better be under six figures otherwise I will save up for the roadster that Car really makes me drool.

I love new tech and I love speed it seems to Check all the right boxes for me right down to the looks I really really like it ! Good job Tesla on making something for me to dream about !!!!
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Hybrid...you must be a millennial. Corvettes are about shaking the ground as they roar over it. Give me a big fat roaring V8 any day.
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There is basically no way to get 0-60 in 1.9 seconds with an engine/motor that does NOT have peak TQ at 0 RPMs, and does not have propulsion on all 4 tires.

BTW 0-60 in 2.75 seconds is 1 G of acceleration.
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Originally Posted by stevebz06
Seems like I remember Car & Driver had a Tesla at VIR for a Lightning Lap and it finished dead last.
Yup, the model S is a luxury car.
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Originally Posted by MitchAlsup
There is basically no way to get 0-60 in 1.9 seconds with an engine/motor that does NOT have peak TQ at 0 RPMs, and does not have propulsion on all 4 tires.

BTW 0-60 in 2.75 seconds is 1 G of acceleration.
Heard of the dragsters?
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Heard of the dragsters?
It doesn’t take anything near a dragster to do it at the track.
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Tesla has nice cars but batteries are not suitable for cars as primary energy source.
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agreed! but let's not hold back progress either

I'd love to see a formula similar to the jag cx75 prototype

4 electric motors, with twin micro turbines for the generators

the motors are cheap, turbines will last forever and run on whatever,


just have lots of heat and noise issues but I'm ok with that

but more realistically and near term, I'd love to see a mid engine v8 with a couple of turbos with front engine electric

the batteries and weight are the enemy, not the electrics

as pointed out by the car mags, it's the new super car formula that is taking hold, mid engine, turbos, front engine electric with "helper motors" to provide more torq from the hit. give me the NSX and 918 technology at a price tag only gm can deliver. my bet is that eventually it will happen as it's needed to keep the vette on par with the world class cars at a fraction of the price as they've been doing for years.

they already have the front drive system developed and available from the volt that can be refined and integrated into the platform

TINY batter array or better yet super capacitor arrays to store just enough energy for about 15 miles of city driving, with light enough weight to still handle well. hopefully GM can make use of the parts bin to come up with something that kicks nsx tooocas at a price us average joes can aspire too.

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Nice post...thanx.
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2021 you will have hybrid option in Corvette.
2020 you will see more V6 in Corvettes
2022 the V8 will be reserved for high end ZR and ME models only, out of the price range of most Corvette owners...
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Originally Posted by 1KULC7
2021 you will have hybrid option in Corvette.
2020 you will see more V6 in Corvettes
2022 the V8 will be reserved for high end ZR and ME models only, out of the price range of most Corvette owners...
Covettes are going to be priced so high the average working stiff will never afford it.
i guess my 2015 will be my last.
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Go Nuclear! Just like the subs, your reactor generates electricity through a steam turbine... all scaled down of course...
now this would be seriously cool ! no shortage of power, you car can power your home! rather than the home powering the car!
Thorium would be the fuel...
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Old 11-21-2017, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 1KULC7
2021 you will have hybrid option in Corvette.
2020 you will see more V6 in Corvettes
2022 the V8 will be reserved for high end ZR and ME models only, out of the price range of most Corvette owners...
Hope you are wrong. I want to see the hybrid option in calendar year 2019.
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Originally Posted by MitchAlsup
There is basically no way to get 0-60 in 1.9 seconds with an engine/motor that does NOT have peak TQ at 0 RPMs, and does not have propulsion on all 4 tires.

BTW 0-60 in 2.75 seconds is 1 G of acceleration.

I read an article that interviewed some type of battery expert to see if Tesla was bullshitting. The expert thought the stats they are claiming is possible. Although they estimated the battery alone will weigh almost 2000 pounds.

Also the same article said pro rally cars can do 0-60 in 2 seconds, but they have 600hp engines, AWD, and super high tech differentials.

If I had 200k to spend on a sports car, I'd rather have a Hurican. Not quite as fast, but much cooler than the Tesla Roadster IMO.
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Old 11-22-2017, 03:33 PM
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Tesla has tons of money but the $$ is going away incredibly fast. A silly overpriced stock with nothing but vanishing production and delivery promises behind it. Paul


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