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1 Ferrari 458 Is designed by Pininfarina for Ferrari. The 488 is just an update of the original 458 design.
I have a 15 458 sitting in my garage next to my 16 Callaway SC757.
Look at any 458 at lower 1/4 area and you will see the Pininfarina emblem.
2 I also owned a Lamborghini and as I stated it was and is nowhere near or is as refined as the Ferrari 458 in it driving and handling abilities. Get massive amount of understeer due to being 4 wheel drive.
Also the Getrag gear box in the 458 is more refined than the gear box in the Lamborghini.
But I am sure you have own both a Ferrari and Lamborghini and that why you can state so positivly what you claim to know about these 2 drastically different super cars.
It sound more probable that your total opinion is based on u tube videos or a 15 minute drive of a super car experience rather than a informed opinion of someone who has thousands of miles in both the Ferrari & Lamborghini
Ferrari hold the test of time. One look at the most expensive and collectable cars in the world and it is Ferrari after Ferrari that are the most desirable collectable cars.
Kind of like that old Packard advertising slong;
"Just ask the man who owns one."
By the way vetteman41960, do you need any help sweeping out the garage or moving the car around?
1 Ferrari 458 Is designed by Pininfarina for Ferrari. The 488 is just an update of the original 458 design.
I have a 15 458 sitting in my garage next to my 16 Callaway SC757.
Look at any 458 at lower 1/4 area and you will see the Pininfarina emblem.
2 I also owned a Lamborghini and as I stated it was and is nowhere near or is as refined as the Ferrari 458 in it driving and handling abilities. Get massive amount of understeer due to being 4 wheel drive.
Also the Getrag gear box in the 458 is more refined than the gear box in the Lamborghini.
But I am sure you have own both a Ferrari and Lamborghini and that why you can state so positivly what you claim to know about these 2 drastically different super cars.
It sound more probable that your total opinion is based on u tube videos or a 15 minute drive of a super car experience rather than a informed opinion of someone who has thousands of miles in both the Ferrari & Lamborghini
Ferrari hold the test of time. One look at the most expensive and collectable cars in the world and it is Ferrari after Ferrari that are the most desirable collectable cars.
I'm sure Flavio Manzoni of Ferrari Product Design would be surprised to hear that. He won the Red Dot "Best of the Best" awards for Product Design in 2016 for the 488. He over saw the design of the 458 which used Ferraris wind tunnel and Ferrari engineers for development. It was the 458 that was responsible for Pininfarina to be out of the picture at Ferrari. The 488 was totally revised in every possible way. Manzoni was responsible for all the 458 race wins and he decided that all Ferraris would be designed in house from now on. Ferrari and Lamborghini both use German gearboxes. Lambo has the most advanced DCT (all new 'Doppia Frizione' )of all cars, designed and built by Audi. The carbon structure is more advanced than the Mclaren P1.
I have owned two Ferraris, one Porsche, 10 Vettes, many Chevy SUVs and trucks, 3 aircraft and I design and build my own cars. So there.
1 Ferrari 458 Is designed by Pininfarina for Ferrari. The 488 is just an update of the original 458 design.
I have a 15 458 sitting in my garage next to my 16 Callaway SC757.
Look at any 458 at lower 1/4 area and you will see the Pininfarina emblem.
2 I also owned a Lamborghini and as I stated it was and is nowhere near or is as refined as the Ferrari 458 in it driving and handling abilities. Get massive amount of understeer due to being 4 wheel drive.
Also the Getrag gear box in the 458 is more refined than the gear box in the Lamborghini.
But I am sure you have own both a Ferrari and Lamborghini and that why you can state so positivly what you claim to know about these 2 drastically different super cars.
It sound more probable that your total opinion is based on u tube videos or a 15 minute drive of a super car experience rather than a informed opinion of someone who has thousands of miles in both the Ferrari & Lamborghini
Ferrari hold the test of time. One look at the most expensive and collectable cars in the world and it is Ferrari after Ferrari that are the most desirable collectable cars.
A couple of thoughts. 1) No one cares what you've owned. Even if you provide pics, they could be stolen, so...irrelevant. 2) You really think Ferrari let's Pininfarina design cars for them? No, they give Pininfarina an idea of what they want, Pinin goes and draws it up, and then Ferrari says a bunch of yes, nos, and then the process starts all over again. At the end of the day it is a Ferrari designed car, they mostly just let Pininfarina slap their logo on it because people care about the name. If you want more proof of how poor Pininfarina is at designing cars, simply look at the Peugeot 406, the Hyundai Matrix, the Ro80, or about 25 other designs that were pure and utter crap. 3) Modern Lambos are designed by Audi and are no longer the bonkers, shaky, gasoline filled death traps of the days of old. The Gallardo is more comfortable and easier to drive than pretty much any Ferrari on the market. However, I would still prefer the 458/488 (which you are right, really are the same car), simply because it is prettier and more fun. 4) Ferraris hold the test of time, yes, for many reasons. And Lambos do have seedy quality to them that while they do have style, they do not have grace. They are both collectors items, generally though Ferrari is held in higher regard but it has nothing to do with build quality or reliability.
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I was looking at different super cars and it struck me that the Hennessy Venom F5 shares many similar lines as the ME mules so I did an overlay to see what would happen if the proportions were changed a bit to make it a bit more user friendly.
Didn't spend too much time on it. Just wanted to see how it would look a bit less extreme and with the mule roof-line and proportions.
02-14-2018, 09:02 AM
