Sexiest ME render?
01-22-2018, 06:33 PM
#282
Thanks for your comments but my latest renderings DO incorporate everything we know about the c8 ME so far and add some current "Corvette" styling cues to the mix to help keep the look and feel of a Corvette. Of course these are only "suggestions" of the type of details that we "could" see, but the size, placement and overall shapes match the know spy and CAD images pretty close.
I chose to use some of the ZR1 design cues as a base for parts of the rendering because it makes sense and actually does match the known details. The paint-shop nose for example has scallops and ridges on the top surface that are "similar" to the ZR1 hood so I modified the ZR1 hood to be recognizable but different, not needing a giant hump for the engine, it is reduced and lowered. The black hood air vent is also retained to keep a recognizable brand identity with Corvette and color options.
I decided to retain the front splitter as a potential ME design element since it is proven for the Corvette and is also featured on other current supercars and figure they may include such a design.
I am surprised you feel the rendering is overly busy and hard edged and don't like it but Shaka's drawing which has harder edges and is busier IMO, you like? But as you say, to each their own.
From the available spy pics, the ME does not have a very "over-the-top aesthetic " to me and my latest side rendering reflects that. I feel it is rather sedate compared to what we may get in the real car. There are actually rumors that the car will be more angular and exotic looking like an American Ferrari. I think my latest renderings are closer to this concept and actually a bit more tame than I think the car will be.
To be clear, these renderings are not "my" design for an ME Corvette, but rather an imaging of what the ME could look like based on all the available info we have to date and simple logic and understanding that the design needs to be recognizable as a Corvette and be exotic enough to pull some buyers with Euro-eyes to take a look.
I think the renders accomplish this objective fairly well so far.
You said in a previous post that I missed a dozen or so details that are known from the spy pics. If you elaborate, I can try to address them.
It is fun to discuss the potentials tho...
I chose to use some of the ZR1 design cues as a base for parts of the rendering because it makes sense and actually does match the known details. The paint-shop nose for example has scallops and ridges on the top surface that are "similar" to the ZR1 hood so I modified the ZR1 hood to be recognizable but different, not needing a giant hump for the engine, it is reduced and lowered. The black hood air vent is also retained to keep a recognizable brand identity with Corvette and color options.
I decided to retain the front splitter as a potential ME design element since it is proven for the Corvette and is also featured on other current supercars and figure they may include such a design.
I am surprised you feel the rendering is overly busy and hard edged and don't like it but Shaka's drawing which has harder edges and is busier IMO, you like? But as you say, to each their own.
From the available spy pics, the ME does not have a very "over-the-top aesthetic " to me and my latest side rendering reflects that. I feel it is rather sedate compared to what we may get in the real car. There are actually rumors that the car will be more angular and exotic looking like an American Ferrari. I think my latest renderings are closer to this concept and actually a bit more tame than I think the car will be.
To be clear, these renderings are not "my" design for an ME Corvette, but rather an imaging of what the ME could look like based on all the available info we have to date and simple logic and understanding that the design needs to be recognizable as a Corvette and be exotic enough to pull some buyers with Euro-eyes to take a look.
I think the renders accomplish this objective fairly well so far.
You said in a previous post that I missed a dozen or so details that are known from the spy pics. If you elaborate, I can try to address them.
It is fun to discuss the potentials tho...
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Shaka (01-23-2018)
01-22-2018, 07:05 PM
#284
Thanks for your comments but my latest renderings DO incorporate everything we know about the c8 ME so far and add some current "Corvette" styling cues to the mix to help keep the look and feel of a Corvette. Of course these are only "suggestions" of the type of details that we "could" see, but the size, placement and overall shapes match the know spy and CAD images pretty close.
I chose to use some of the ZR1 design cues as a base for parts of the rendering because it makes sense and actually does match the known details. The paint-shop nose for example has scallops and ridges on the top surface that are "similar" to the ZR1 hood so I modified the ZR1 hood to be recognizable but different, not needing a giant hump for the engine, it is reduced and lowered. The black hood air vent is also retained to keep a recognizable brand identity with Corvette and color options.
I decided to retain the front splitter as a potential ME design element since it is proven for the Corvette and is also featured on other current supercars and figure they may include such a design.
I am surprised you feel the rendering is overly busy and hard edged and don't like it but Shaka's drawing which has harder edges and is busier IMO, you like? But as you say, to each their own.
From the available spy pics, the ME does not have a very "over-the-top aesthetic " to me and my latest side rendering reflects that. I feel it is rather sedate compared to what we may get in the real car. There are actually rumors that the car will be more angular and exotic looking like an American Ferrari. I think my latest renderings are closer to this concept and actually a bit more tame than I think the car will be.
To be clear, these renderings are not "my" design for an ME Corvette, but rather an imaging of what the ME could look like based on all the available info we have to date and simple logic and understanding that the design needs to be recognizable as a Corvette and be exotic enough to pull some buyers with Euro-eyes to take a look.
I think the renders accomplish this objective fairly well so far.
You said in a previous post that I missed a dozen or so details that are known from the spy pics. If you elaborate, I can try to address them.
It is fun to discuss the potentials tho...
I chose to use some of the ZR1 design cues as a base for parts of the rendering because it makes sense and actually does match the known details. The paint-shop nose for example has scallops and ridges on the top surface that are "similar" to the ZR1 hood so I modified the ZR1 hood to be recognizable but different, not needing a giant hump for the engine, it is reduced and lowered. The black hood air vent is also retained to keep a recognizable brand identity with Corvette and color options.
I decided to retain the front splitter as a potential ME design element since it is proven for the Corvette and is also featured on other current supercars and figure they may include such a design.
I am surprised you feel the rendering is overly busy and hard edged and don't like it but Shaka's drawing which has harder edges and is busier IMO, you like? But as you say, to each their own.
From the available spy pics, the ME does not have a very "over-the-top aesthetic " to me and my latest side rendering reflects that. I feel it is rather sedate compared to what we may get in the real car. There are actually rumors that the car will be more angular and exotic looking like an American Ferrari. I think my latest renderings are closer to this concept and actually a bit more tame than I think the car will be.
To be clear, these renderings are not "my" design for an ME Corvette, but rather an imaging of what the ME could look like based on all the available info we have to date and simple logic and understanding that the design needs to be recognizable as a Corvette and be exotic enough to pull some buyers with Euro-eyes to take a look.
I think the renders accomplish this objective fairly well so far.
You said in a previous post that I missed a dozen or so details that are known from the spy pics. If you elaborate, I can try to address them.
It is fun to discuss the potentials tho...
I understand your point about the wry thin structure each side of the center is probably just structural for a grill or something but the wider structures that are farther out that run slightly diagonal look to be finished panels.
I think it is much more likely that there is trickery under the tarps and camo and that the paint shop nose is legit
01-22-2018, 07:14 PM
#285
I think you have done a great job with the rendering. I do however think that you “missed” the nose. I think the first one you designed is probably closer. It looks more like the paint shop nose.
I understand your point about the wry thin structure each side of the center is probably just structural for a grill or something but the wider structures that are farther out that run slightly diagonal look to be finished panels.
I think it is much more likely that there is trickery under the tarps and camo and that the paint shop nose is legit
I understand your point about the wry thin structure each side of the center is probably just structural for a grill or something but the wider structures that are farther out that run slightly diagonal look to be finished panels.
I think it is much more likely that there is trickery under the tarps and camo and that the paint shop nose is legit
01-22-2018, 07:20 PM
#286
01-22-2018, 07:34 PM
#288
01-22-2018, 07:47 PM
#289
Safety Car
'There is nothing in his drawings that are guesses.'
'Nothing in his drawings are guesses.'
'His drawings are nothing but guesses.'
'His drawings are not only guesses, but (also)....'
..and so on.
01-22-2018, 07:49 PM
#290
There is a large gaping mouth area that I’m sure has more inside than the paint shop nose shows. But then there is a a diagonal structure at the edge of the mouth that you have completely ignored. Then another smaller open “cheek”. From the paint shop image I don’t believe that diagonal “mouth”,”cheek”separation structure will be covered up. I think this is what others are seeing as well as not accurate to design cues we “know” to exist
01-22-2018, 07:56 PM
#291
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Shaka (01-23-2018)
01-22-2018, 08:00 PM
#293
I agree that there would have to be some sort of “grill elements “ BETWEEN the large open areas. you have totally disregarded the structure that defines the large open areas
There is a large gaping mouth area that I’m sure has more inside than the paint shop nose shows. But then there is a a diagonal structure at the edge of the mouth that you have completely ignored. Then another smaller open “cheek”. From the paint shop image I don’t believe that diagonal “mouth”,”cheek”separation structure will be covered up. I think this is what others are seeing as well as not accurate to design cues we “know” to exist
There is a large gaping mouth area that I’m sure has more inside than the paint shop nose shows. But then there is a a diagonal structure at the edge of the mouth that you have completely ignored. Then another smaller open “cheek”. From the paint shop image I don’t believe that diagonal “mouth”,”cheek”separation structure will be covered up. I think this is what others are seeing as well as not accurate to design cues we “know” to exist
Again, those delta shaped supports are VERY thin (look at the far side one) and there is really nothing else in that fascia to suggest any other design so I took the liberty to fill it in with a Corvette styled grill. The other "supports" may be only temp. From the front the delta shaped elements would hardly be visible. Note the B&W painted camo under the black tarp. Sure it could be fake but prob isn't.
Maybe if I get more time I will address it more. I am sure it will be very different and much more exciting!
Last edited by firstvettesoon; 01-22-2018 at 08:14 PM.
01-22-2018, 08:27 PM
#294
but I appreciate your opinion!
I hope my gramma dont get bad graded again...
Last edited by firstvettesoon; 01-22-2018 at 08:28 PM.
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Shaka (01-23-2018)
01-22-2018, 08:31 PM
#295
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Shaka (01-23-2018)
01-23-2018, 01:09 AM
#296
I don’t see old in the C8 design. For the past decade trends in the affordable car market have moved toward retro designs that are kind of in-your-face mallets with a dash of ‘Merica’ thrown in. The C8 abandons a lot of that and moves toward high speed sophistication and elegance. I think people are going to like it for the most part. Afford it though, that’s a different story.
01-23-2018, 09:00 AM
#297
I don’t see old in the C8 design. For the past decade trends in the affordable car market have moved toward retro designs that are kind of in-your-face mallets with a dash of ‘Merica’ thrown in. The C8 abandons a lot of that and moves toward high speed sophistication and elegance. I think people are going to like it for the most part. Afford it though, that’s a different story.
The best looking cars coming out of the big three are the retro styled cars. We desperately need another Bill Mitchell. Thank god Ed Welburn is gone!, unfortunately his replacement Mike Simcoe at this point doesn't appear to be very promising.
The time we are living in from a truly creative standpoint, has run out of ideas. From the cars and trucks we drive and the movies and music we watch and listen to. We are coming up on the 100th anniversary of the art deco movement, if I were a designer I would look to this period for inspiration which coincidentally replaced the cubism that we seem to be stuck in at the moment.
I think I see a Corvette parked in this picture.
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Shaka (01-23-2018)
01-23-2018, 09:19 AM
#298
Safety Car
01-23-2018, 10:23 AM
#299
2) About 80% of what is in Shaka's drawing are facts that can be found in the spy photos.
3) Maybe he's guessing, maybe he's not, how do you know?
4) Even if he says he's guessing, can you trust him? lol.
5) Thousands of people have seen the actual car fully uncovered, from engineers, to parts makers, to wind tunnel experts, to gov't crash test personnel. Take your pick of basically any portion of the automotive industry. And you don't think at least a few are on this forum, or friends of people on this forum?
The point, good luck proving what are guesses and what are not.
01-23-2018, 03:16 PM
#300
Something like this maybe. I don't see a huge protrusion at the bottom. Look at the far side. It looks fairly even to me with the sides angled in and the delta shaped supports roughly as shown. I sketched in the new headlamp shape roughly as a slight wrap around. The angle is so acute it is hard to tell the actual straight on shape yet. Any thoughts?
Last edited by firstvettesoon; 01-23-2018 at 03:36 PM.