Code name Zerv
#401
Le Mans Master
Durability comes before quality. You can make a durable design which is impossibly to manufacture and therefore will have bad quality. You can design a part which has no durability and make it perfect every time (thereby having quality). IF you want to bridge the two you have to talk about manufacturability.[/QUOTE]
#402
Questions for those who know better than me.
I have tried to enhance the CAD drawing of the rear so we can see more details.
Could the highlighted areas be part of an active Aero system? I can't tell what the parts are or where they go. Maybe some of you guys can shed some light?
It the "piston" part of the suspension or wing activation?
Why are there such big holes or ports in the top edge of the "spoiler" area? Aren't they too big for bolts?
Maybe you can see more details now on the highlighted side.?
I have tried to enhance the CAD drawing of the rear so we can see more details.
Could the highlighted areas be part of an active Aero system? I can't tell what the parts are or where they go. Maybe some of you guys can shed some light?
It the "piston" part of the suspension or wing activation?
Why are there such big holes or ports in the top edge of the "spoiler" area? Aren't they too big for bolts?
Maybe you can see more details now on the highlighted side.?
#403
Some of the active wings lift very high. That's why I thought it could be for the spoiler.
...maybe like this? Although I think from the CAD the spoiler may sit on top of the rear deck as a spoiler and then activate to raise up as a wing?
...maybe like this? Although I think from the CAD the spoiler may sit on top of the rear deck as a spoiler and then activate to raise up as a wing?
Last edited by firstvettesoon; 12-30-2017 at 10:49 AM.
#404
Drifting
^^^ I was thinking the same thing as you. It will probably be a $5,000 option, standard on the Z06.
Great work firstvettesoon.
Great work firstvettesoon.
Last edited by Steve Garrett; 12-30-2017 at 11:26 PM.
#405
Drifting
That's what I thought I was seeing. I figured the dark area with the "notches" you highlighted was what was left underneath the spoiler when it's raised, and the spoiler just isn't shown in that shot.
#406
#407
#409
Le Mans Master
It does give us something to discuss while waiting on Zerv to re-appear.
#410
Here is a side view of the render with active aero similar to the Porsche Turbo S.
This may make sense since the ME was seen testing with a Turbo S.
As elegant was suggesting, the front spoiler tucking up for 30 deg. will also help with driveways and speed bumps.
Seems reasonable. I think as the CAD drawings don't show how this would be, I figured the rear spoiler would sit on the body deck similar to the C7 for a mild effect and then raise at speed for more DF. The front spoiler could sit raised at slow speed and slid out and down at speed to duct air better.
I also updated the view with new headlamps and side vent like the iso view.
thoughts?
This may make sense since the ME was seen testing with a Turbo S.
As elegant was suggesting, the front spoiler tucking up for 30 deg. will also help with driveways and speed bumps.
Seems reasonable. I think as the CAD drawings don't show how this would be, I figured the rear spoiler would sit on the body deck similar to the C7 for a mild effect and then raise at speed for more DF. The front spoiler could sit raised at slow speed and slid out and down at speed to duct air better.
I also updated the view with new headlamps and side vent like the iso view.
thoughts?
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#411
Le Mans Master
^^^ Nice work.
The rear spoiler is something I am expecting.
I have not thought about the front splitter being the way you show. But what you are showing is very interesting and may make sense. But I don't think that will be the configuration. I think it would be cool if it is, and very innovative, but I just don't see it being done that way.
The rear spoiler is something I am expecting.
I have not thought about the front splitter being the way you show. But what you are showing is very interesting and may make sense. But I don't think that will be the configuration. I think it would be cool if it is, and very innovative, but I just don't see it being done that way.
Last edited by Steve Garrett; 12-30-2017 at 11:25 PM.
#412
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^^^ Most definitely not a candidate for a drive thru car wash ...........
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#413
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Here is a side view of the render with active aero similar to the Porsche Turbo S.
This may make sense since the ME was seen testing with a Turbo S.
As elegant was suggesting, the front spoiler tucking up for 30 deg. will also help with driveways and speed bumps.
Seems reasonable. I think as the CAD drawings don't show how this would be, I figured the rear spoiler would sit on the body deck similar to the C7 for a mild effect and then raise at speed for more DF. The front spoiler could sit raised at slow speed and slid out and down at speed to duct air better.
I also updated the view with new headlamps and side vent like the iso view.
thoughts?
This may make sense since the ME was seen testing with a Turbo S.
As elegant was suggesting, the front spoiler tucking up for 30 deg. will also help with driveways and speed bumps.
Seems reasonable. I think as the CAD drawings don't show how this would be, I figured the rear spoiler would sit on the body deck similar to the C7 for a mild effect and then raise at speed for more DF. The front spoiler could sit raised at slow speed and slid out and down at speed to duct air better.
I also updated the view with new headlamps and side vent like the iso view.
thoughts?
On a side note (no pun intended), I'm wondering if the rear wrap-around tail lights can/will serve as the side markers. It may be a nice way for GM designers to "clean up" that area, and eliminate a historically unpopular item; although required by DOT, many owners black them out.
Keep up the great work!
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They are still on the quarter fenders in amber. in the rendering.
#416
I think they can.
They have on other cars at least.
They have on other cars at least.
#417
Drifting
#418
Le Mans Master
You have me pegged all wrong. I am just a guy who has always loved cars from the time I was 7 years old and fell in live with a 67 Stingray 427 cope that my neighbor purchased in 67.
I have had a love a fair with cars ever since. Bought my 1st Corvette at 16 years old. 73 roadster that was $3500.00 at the time.
I have been lucky enough to earn a good living in the automotive business.
So I don't drink don't do drugs or take expensive vacation.
What I do is treat myself to some of the finest cars in the world that are within my financial means.
I would like GM to show the world that they still can set the standard for the rest of the world as they did back in the Fifties and sixties.
I guarantee if you met me you have no idea that I had a small collection of sports card or owned expensive vehicle. Heck my daily is a Chevrolet Pickup.
So while we differ in what we want out of the future Corvette it sound like we both love Corvette and cars in general.
As far as the Ferrari forum I met a lot of guys just like me that bought a Ferrari because they love cars.
After all we can't take it with us. So maybe I am a little older and at the pint in life were I can finally treat myself. Kids grown and trough College. House finally paid off and lucky enough to be able to treat myself to some fun owing cars I have always wanted.
I have had a love a fair with cars ever since. Bought my 1st Corvette at 16 years old. 73 roadster that was $3500.00 at the time.
I have been lucky enough to earn a good living in the automotive business.
So I don't drink don't do drugs or take expensive vacation.
What I do is treat myself to some of the finest cars in the world that are within my financial means.
I would like GM to show the world that they still can set the standard for the rest of the world as they did back in the Fifties and sixties.
I guarantee if you met me you have no idea that I had a small collection of sports card or owned expensive vehicle. Heck my daily is a Chevrolet Pickup.
So while we differ in what we want out of the future Corvette it sound like we both love Corvette and cars in general.
As far as the Ferrari forum I met a lot of guys just like me that bought a Ferrari because they love cars.
After all we can't take it with us. So maybe I am a little older and at the pint in life were I can finally treat myself. Kids grown and trough College. House finally paid off and lucky enough to be able to treat myself to some fun owing cars I have always wanted.
However I will admit that my father just bought a $450K car and I think it's insane to spend that much money on a car, even if it's pocket change for him (or you). I mean, he can't drive that Bentley anywhere except to a country club. You can't leave it out anywhere at all without worrying about it the entire time. And he isn't a billionaire either.
Here is the thing though, you already have about a dozen very expensive ME automobiles that you can personally choose from with fantastic capabilities and exclusivity. I, and I'm certain many others perusing this forum, are sort of middle class guys (and gals) that have 'made it' but we can't blow the kids college fund on a depreciating automobile. We too would like the opportunity to own, cruise, and track a, while not rare, very capable and affordable ME (the ideal!) sports car made by a mass production company. Which leads to affordability, parts, easy maintenance (try driving a Lambo cross country and needing maintenance in a pinch), and the comaraderie that we can share with other working stiffs like us.
The ultra exclusive car that you desire for GM to make, isn't in GMs best interest, isn't in the best interest of sports cars in general, and isn't in the best interest of most of the members on this very forum. Heck it isn't even in the best interest of the ultra-exclusive MEs that are out there.
So with all due respect, get off your "GM should make this car way too expensive for all except the uber wealthy" kick.
If for some reason you can't be content with an Italian exotic, then buy the top dog C8 and go drop $100K on it with our amazing vendors (a result of mass production and availability of the Corvette quite frankly) and build literally the highest performing street legal car on the planet.
I'll be tracking my ole '08 Z51, frankly passing up those ME exotics left and right, saving up for my C8.
Good luck!
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#420
We share the passion for cars, but not quite the finances! Not yet anyways.
However I will admit that my father just bought a $450K car and I think it's insane to spend that much money on a car, even if it's pocket change for him (or you). I mean, he can't drive that Bentley anywhere except to a country club. You can't leave it out anywhere at all without worrying about it the entire time. And he isn't a billionaire either.
Here is the thing though, you already have about a dozen very expensive ME automobiles that you can personally choose from with fantastic capabilities and exclusivity. I, and I'm certain many others perusing this forum, are sort of middle class guys (and gals) that have 'made it' but we can't blow the kids college fund on a depreciating automobile. We too would like the opportunity to own, cruise, and track a, while not rare, very capable and affordable ME (the ideal!) sports car made by a mass production company. Which leads to affordability, parts, easy maintenance (try driving a Lambo cross country and needing maintenance in a pinch), and the comaraderie that we can share with other working stiffs like us.
The ultra exclusive car that you desire for GM to make, isn't in GMs best interest, isn't in the best interest of sports cars in general, and isn't in the best interest of most of the members on this very forum. Heck it isn't even in the best interest of the ultra-exclusive MEs that are out there.
So with all due respect, get off your "GM should make this car way too expensive for all except the uber wealthy" kick.
If for some reason you can't be content with an Italian exotic, then buy the top dog C8 and go drop $100K on it with our amazing vendors (a result of mass production and availability of the Corvette quite frankly) and build literally the highest performing street legal car on the planet.
I'll be tracking my ole '08 Z51, frankly passing up those ME exotics left and right, saving up for my C8.
Good luck!
However I will admit that my father just bought a $450K car and I think it's insane to spend that much money on a car, even if it's pocket change for him (or you). I mean, he can't drive that Bentley anywhere except to a country club. You can't leave it out anywhere at all without worrying about it the entire time. And he isn't a billionaire either.
Here is the thing though, you already have about a dozen very expensive ME automobiles that you can personally choose from with fantastic capabilities and exclusivity. I, and I'm certain many others perusing this forum, are sort of middle class guys (and gals) that have 'made it' but we can't blow the kids college fund on a depreciating automobile. We too would like the opportunity to own, cruise, and track a, while not rare, very capable and affordable ME (the ideal!) sports car made by a mass production company. Which leads to affordability, parts, easy maintenance (try driving a Lambo cross country and needing maintenance in a pinch), and the comaraderie that we can share with other working stiffs like us.
The ultra exclusive car that you desire for GM to make, isn't in GMs best interest, isn't in the best interest of sports cars in general, and isn't in the best interest of most of the members on this very forum. Heck it isn't even in the best interest of the ultra-exclusive MEs that are out there.
So with all due respect, get off your "GM should make this car way too expensive for all except the uber wealthy" kick.
If for some reason you can't be content with an Italian exotic, then buy the top dog C8 and go drop $100K on it with our amazing vendors (a result of mass production and availability of the Corvette quite frankly) and build literally the highest performing street legal car on the planet.
I'll be tracking my ole '08 Z51, frankly passing up those ME exotics left and right, saving up for my C8.
Good luck!