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Old 02-12-2018, 01:37 PM
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Last week we saw the ME’s rear view camera. Here’s how it works, what it does, and for those who are thinking a streaming rear view mirror camera is not approved by NHTSA, it is already on 2018 Cadillac CT6’s. Lastly, some of its capabilities/science are explained.

First, a look back at ME’s rear camera that we recently saw:



From and thanks to Motor Authority, we have a camera pic close-up and then showing its increased field of vision compared to traditional rear view mirrors.





https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...earview-mirror

From GM current 2018 Cadillac CT6 site:



Lastly, thanks to KBB, we have their 2014 article with some details of how it functions:

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Cadillac has announced its new range-topping CT6 sedan will have an innovative rearview mirror that adds a new streaming video system giving the driver a completely unobstructed look at what's behind the car. Like Nissan's Smart rearview mirror, the Cadillac unit uses a video feed from a rear-mounted HD camera to fill the inside mirror with a real-time image, which is presented on a 1,280 x 240 TFT-LCD screen. However, Cadillac's mirror differs in providing a wide-angle perspective that's roughly four times as inclusive as the conventional optical alternative.

"The streaming video is a significant enhancement for the luxury customer interested in purposeful technology," said Travis Hester, Cadillac CT6 executive chief engineer. "In addition to the increased field of view, the technology eliminates any rear seat, rear pillar or passenger obstructions, allowing the driver an unimpeded view of the lanes behind and traditional blind-spots."

Cadillac's new rearview mirror camera system is covered by no fewer than 10 patents, one for the actual streaming video and nine others for everything from the wide-angle image calibration, glare reduction and de-warping capability to the high dynamic range camera itself, which features a water-shedding hydrophobic coating to ensure it can function regardless of outside ambient weather or lighting conditions. The system can be disabled, should a driver choose, by simply flipping a switch on the bottom of the mirror. While the automaker has not yet indicated any additional future fitments for this new system, it seems likely to be rolled out in other models at some point after the 2016 Cadillac CT6 hits the showrooms next year.
https://www.kbb.com/car-news/all-the...ra/2000011540/
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Old 02-12-2018, 02:02 PM
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It is one supremely ugly-assed wart on the roof of that ME mule. Hopefully that is not its final integration.




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Old 02-12-2018, 09:40 PM
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Well done, John!
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I think this idea is coming almost directly from Corvette Racing which has been using a camera for years. I think it's a great idea since rearward visibility is a problem especially for ME cars, although I have been lectured by some on here that it is simply a matter of knowing how to adjust the mirrors.
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That's why you point your side mirrors out to see the side lanes beside you. Everyone I see has these mirrors pointed right behind them, when the rearview is doing the same thing.
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Originally Posted by OnPoint
It is one supremely ugly-assed wart on the roof of that ME mule. Hopefully that is not its final integration.



I'm sure this is only because the tarp is covering the actual camera....the actual camera will be seamlessly integrated
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Originally Posted by sweedjeff
That's why you point your side mirrors out to see the side lanes beside you. Everyone I see has these mirrors pointed right behind them, when the rearview is doing the same thing.
See, I'm getting lectured again! You should call Corvette Racing and explain to them how to use their mirrors so that they can ditch this unnecessary camera system.
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Originally Posted by stevebz06
I think this idea is coming almost directly from Corvette Racing which has been using a camera for years. I think it's a great idea since rearward visibility is a problem especially for ME cars, although I have been lectured by some on here that it is simply a matter of knowing how to adjust the mirrors.
i agree, plus other benefits.

https://www.wired.com/2014/04/tesla-...iance-mirrors/

removing side view mirrors cuts drag by "2 to 7 percent", an advantage a race team won't surrender. a camera is cheaper than repacing one of the side mirrors, but probably not by the time the auto companies get done with it, and a fish eye lens at the rear of the roof would give a panoramic rear view on the highway, probably eliminating the blind spots.

the fuel savings would more than pay for the camera setup, especially at high cruise speed, but if you eliminated the side mirrors, you'd need a small one on each side too to avoid curb contact and hidden small kids and objects on each side when maneuvering at slow speeds.
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Originally Posted by sweedjeff
That's why you point your side mirrors out to see the side lanes beside you. Everyone I see has these mirrors pointed right behind them, when the rearview is doing the same thing.
Precisely!
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What is the difference between this rear view camera/mirror and the one that is in my aunt's 2012 Ford Expedition? Hers uses a rear mounted camera and displays a streaming view in the inside windshield mounted mirror when the SUV is placed in reverse.

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Originally Posted by JoesC5
What is the difference between this rear view camera/mirror and the one that is in my aunt's 2012 Ford Expedition? Hers uses a rear mounted camera and displays a streaming view in the inside windshield mounted mirror when the SUV is placed in reverse.
Since I'm not an insider I can't answer about what is going into the C8, but the camera in the C7R does a lot more than just supplement the rear view mirror. It highlights cars approaching with a high rate of closure and gives a much wider field of view, both of which are pretty important in multi-class racing. Most teams are using this now in the ALMS (if that is still what it's called). There is probably more about this at Corvette Racing's web site.
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
What is the difference between this rear view camera/mirror and the one that is in my aunt's 2012 Ford Expedition? Hers uses a rear mounted camera and displays a streaming view in the inside windshield mounted mirror when the SUV is placed in reverse.
Big difference. What you are talking about is just a backup camera. My GF's Fusion has that little tiny backup camera in her mirror too. Almost all cars now have the backup camera on the in dash screen thats 8" or so.

What this camera does is replace the rear view mirror with a screen (if flipped on) to where the screen "replaces" the actual mirror, and shows 300% more rear view than just the mirror. So when you're driving you can look in your rear view and see all 3 lanes behind you, not just one. Its turned on/off by the "switch" on the bottom that you push/pull when a cars headlights are blinding you at night. Doing that will turn the camera/screen on and replace your standard mirror lens.

I'm wanting a new CTS, the 17s have it after playing with it at the Chicago Auto Show the other day in person finally, I really want to make sure I don't get a car without it.
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Look at the difference, pretty awesome.
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Originally Posted by jdhommert
Look at the difference, pretty awesome.
My friend has it in his Caddy and I hate it. Yours eye go naturally to the mirror but the camera mode in the mirror, your eyes have to refocus, then refocus for the road again.
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Now if we could just get this tech to replace side mirrors...
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One of my co-workers just picked up a new Caddy Escalade with the switchable video/mirror rear view.

I thought it looked amazing. She advised it took a little while to get used to it but now would never buy another vehicle without the video mirror.
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Still need side mirrors

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