I have a funny feeling that the base C8 engine will be a V6
#21
Burning Brakes
I have to laugh sometimes:
This post we have gone from it sounded like a V6 on the tape...to:
A service director on the C8 team told Me.
Next..
This post we have gone from it sounded like a V6 on the tape...to:
A service director on the C8 team told Me.
Next..
#22
Safety Car
I think you have forgotten something: a ME car can *smoke* a more powerful one due to greatly improved traction. Therefore, a 450hp TT v6 will handily beat the cars you mention. See the 370hp 911 dominate the GrandSport (in a straight line) here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbtoXMOiqtQ
Also, the RE Porsche guy will spend a lot more on tires because he will have more pit stops, a little better in a ME car.. Matter of factly, the Vette can stop quicker than all these cars below. If it weren't for electronic grannies, all these cars couldn't be driven on the limit except for the Vette. Each car will have an advantage depending on the tracks or road.
The Vette has two huge mass centroids over each axle which are far apart. Yaw acceleration is slower. A ME car has one between the axles.
Old farts can drive the Vette fast on track days, but their reflexes aren't fast enough to react to the lightening quick angular acceleration about a mid or rear engined car's vertical axis, including the Viper.
Sure, when the ME car starts to yaw near the limit, smaller forces are needed to bring it back on line, so you are in less danger of losing control. The downside is if you do reach and exceed the limit and loose control, everything will be happening that much faster and old farts will have trouble and even some of the young uns.
However: On gravel roads or snow, the car with a higher PMI is easier to control when hanging the tail out on a corner. ME cars are for yoots and the demographics don't look good for ME Vette sales. They are just not an old fart car.
Last edited by Shaka; 04-07-2018 at 06:03 PM.
#23
Corvette has a habit of making the new base model to be almost as performance capable as the previous years Z06...so if it is a V6 it will be twin turbo and a hoot to drive and if it comes in at $65,000 it will be the bargain of a lifetime.
A mid engine with 600 hp ( just speculation ) or even 550 hp will be truly a supercar. And with the right exhaust system it will sound just fine.
And if the upgrade the interior just a bit over the C7 I'll be in heaven. Just have to figure out how to buy one...
A mid engine with 600 hp ( just speculation ) or even 550 hp will be truly a supercar. And with the right exhaust system it will sound just fine.
And if the upgrade the interior just a bit over the C7 I'll be in heaven. Just have to figure out how to buy one...
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#25
Le Mans Master
V6's sound like garbage, so it should be easy to tell. A mid-engine Corvette that sounds like a Chevy Colorado pickup truck. Yeah, that's going to sell.
Last edited by Michael A; 04-08-2018 at 02:32 PM.
#26
Safety Car
I just re-listened to the video, and that is not a V6. Want to hear a sad sounding V6, listen to the Ford GT.
Auto media site “Motor1” similarly listened to that admittedly poor quality video, and they are summarizing, based on their speculation and others, that it is “a biturbo V8.”
Auto media site “Motor1” similarly listened to that admittedly poor quality video, and they are summarizing, based on their speculation and others, that it is “a biturbo V8.”
#27
It would be very VERY surprising if a V6 turbo makes it into next year's base C8.
OTOH, the 4.2L "Cadillac" V6 turbo puts out nearly 100 more HP more than the LT1.
So there's that too...
EDIT: Oops, brainfart...the 4.2L is a V8.
OTOH, the 4.2L "Cadillac" V6 turbo puts out nearly 100 more HP more than the LT1.
So there's that too...
EDIT: Oops, brainfart...the 4.2L is a V8.
Last edited by sunsalem; 04-09-2018 at 03:10 AM.
#28
Team Owner
The Cadillac 4.2L is a V8 and it's available at 500 HP and 550HP, depending on which model CT6 it's going in.
#29
I don't give a **** if it sounds like a Vespa as long as it is fast. Won't the Ford GT smoke a Corvette . . . and its a six cylinder.
#30
I just re-listened to the video, and that is not a V6. Want to hear a sad sounding V6, listen to the Ford GT.
Auto media site “Motor1” similarly listened to that admittedly poor quality video, and they are summarizing, based on their speculation and others, that it is “a biturbo V8.”
Auto media site “Motor1” similarly listened to that admittedly poor quality video, and they are summarizing, based on their speculation and others, that it is “a biturbo V8.”
#31
Safety Car
The Ford GT was designed for high speed tracks, and specifically to win LeMans. It is pretty good in those circumstances.
However, are some folks forgetting who won the IMSA Championship the last two years? Are a couple of folks having memory loss, for it was the Corvette, was not the Ford GT.
However, are some folks forgetting who won the IMSA Championship the last two years? Are a couple of folks having memory loss, for it was the Corvette, was not the Ford GT.
#32
Melting Slicks
Because of Balance of Performance in IMSA, one car out performing the other in that series, whether it is BMW, Corvette, Ford, Mercedes or Porsche, is solely as a result of the minute advantages the rules give a particular car at a particular track. Those cars are the road racing equivalent (in terms of comparability of performance) to NASCAR.
#34
I just re-listened to the video, and that is not a V6. Want to hear a sad sounding V6, listen to the Ford GT.
Auto media site “Motor1” similarly listened to that admittedly poor quality video, and they are summarizing, based on their speculation and others, that it is “a biturbo V8.”
Auto media site “Motor1” similarly listened to that admittedly poor quality video, and they are summarizing, based on their speculation and others, that it is “a biturbo V8.”
Pity the guy is talking over the engine sound at it pulls away from the stop sign. I put on the headphones and cranked up the volume to 11. To my ears the sound was the slightly muffled sound of a turbo V8. Rather than the crisper sound of a NA engine. Therefore it must have been the new DOHC TT
#35
I'd never get a V6TT in a sportscar over 3300lbs, unless it looked like the Ford GT.
Last edited by conceptmachine; 04-09-2018 at 10:09 AM.
#36
Le Mans Master
Subject to interpretation! ;)
https://jalopnik.com/imsa-really-messed-up-their-balance-of-performance-at-d-1822494723
We wait to see GM's interpretation! Hopefully, it will be configured with some of that same kind of flood controlling tech.
We wait to see GM's interpretation! Hopefully, it will be configured with some of that same kind of flood controlling tech.
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If GM decides to make a ME and produce it along side a FE as a halo car then I could agree with the $100,000 sticker. But according to the latest information we are seeing I doubt that GM is going to do that, unless their is to be a Cadillac version introduced at a later time. That one could be a $100,000 car and no one would think that is a surprise.
I am sticking to the $65,000 base price, V6 or V8 doesn't really matter as long as it is well made, fast and looks good.
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#39
Drifting
The only reason you would go with a V6 or 4 cylinder is for CAFE fuel economy. But the current LT1 can get up to 40 MPG so that thinking is invalidated. And if someone thinks a Twin Turbo DOHC V6 is lighter than an NA LS/LT V8, think again.
Ain't nothin lighter or more "power dense" than a normally aspirated V8.
will they go back to titanium exhausts like the C5 Z06, that's what i want to know..
Ain't nothin lighter or more "power dense" than a normally aspirated V8.
will they go back to titanium exhausts like the C5 Z06, that's what i want to know..
#40
Drifting
Because of Balance of Performance in IMSA, one car out performing the other in that series, whether it is BMW, Corvette, Ford, Mercedes or Porsche, is solely as a result of the minute advantages the rules give a particular car at a particular track. Those cars are the road racing equivalent (in terms of comparability of performance) to NASCAR.