2020 C8 - Mid Engine Corvette - best guess renderings
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St. Jude Donor '15
"In honor of jpee"
A) I agree w. all of this post esp. the underlined part! Thanks to C7 and FVS
B) Just remember re the Camaro pillbox-slit, it's a function of two things, not just the roof height: it's also a function of the door height which creates that narrow gun-slit feeling. If the roof is a half-inch higher and the upper door ledge an inch lower it will make a very big difference.
C) I think that's a great idea to have started a NEW thread for the latest in renderings rather than a continuation of the prior threads! Thank you for the effort and thoughts. As said below, it keeps our interest going.
Excellent work FVS. Thanks to you and C7pimp for all your hard work. This render belongs on the cover of a magazine. I like how you worked the headlights into the body lines on the front end (like the C7). The coke bottle shape of the body makes the side scoop much better.
I had the same question/complaint. Based on this shot of the beta, I'd guess the render's greenhouse is definitely a bit too Camaro pillbox-slit low. A minor adjustment would get the greenhouse a bit airier, which I believe will be correct...and much nicer looking...
Again amazing artwork FVS, congrats..... and still totally befuddled how the heck you get all those reflections/lighting so correct working in 2D. Yeah I'm impressed with the car, but as someone who works in 3D, I'm mystified by your artistry (reflecting my lack of knowledge of your methods). Really looking forward to the side view. Glad you started a fresh thread. Now I'm hitting the site every few hours... trying to be patient. Thanks for the entertainment.
#62
Race Director
If you look at the A pillars of the spy photos they are not radiused....they are straight..
If you do another rendering of which your efforts are amazing...you might want to include straight A pillars...maybe it's just the lighting you posted on the drivers side that creates the appearance of a radiused curve ...
The passenger side does appear to be a straight piece...
I do think the angle of the windshield of the spy photos is more upright...
You might try one where the A pillar is not body colored..GM might continue its tradition of a black A pillar...although you might be right and GM finally creates a body colored A pillar.
I'm not being negative...I'm just trying to be constructive.
If you do another rendering of which your efforts are amazing...you might want to include straight A pillars...maybe it's just the lighting you posted on the drivers side that creates the appearance of a radiused curve ...
The passenger side does appear to be a straight piece...
I do think the angle of the windshield of the spy photos is more upright...
You might try one where the A pillar is not body colored..GM might continue its tradition of a black A pillar...although you might be right and GM finally creates a body colored A pillar.
I'm not being negative...I'm just trying to be constructive.
Last edited by JerriVette; 04-19-2018 at 08:44 AM.
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firstvettesoon (04-19-2018)
#63
Safety Car
You are a good artist but you can't draw cars. You don't understand perspective and automotive dynamics which include aerodynamics.
1. Not centered and too high. Nose has a point.
2. Not a flat surface here.
3. These two lines are parallel to each.
4. You still can't come to terms with this section.
5.This surface is critical. Understand it.
6 and 7. Guessing location of intake. Both areas require a low pressure destination. Back of the glass would be more suitable for combustion intake. The large side scoop would perform the duty of the intake on top of the rear quarter along with others.
8.Wrong curve.
9. No such aero device.
10. Way too high.
I'll trace this dwg and fix things.
1. Not centered and too high. Nose has a point.
2. Not a flat surface here.
3. These two lines are parallel to each.
4. You still can't come to terms with this section.
5.This surface is critical. Understand it.
6 and 7. Guessing location of intake. Both areas require a low pressure destination. Back of the glass would be more suitable for combustion intake. The large side scoop would perform the duty of the intake on top of the rear quarter along with others.
8.Wrong curve.
9. No such aero device.
10. Way too high.
I'll trace this dwg and fix things.
Last edited by Shaka; 04-19-2018 at 09:57 AM.
#64
Team Owner
Of the cars you have shown...how many have a front trunk, and if so equipped, how large of a front trunk?
#66
Pro
I would not refer to any of those vehicles "plain, flat and straight."
#68
Race Director
I looked again and i do NOT think is merely a matter of perspective...
#69
The only thing accurate with these pics is the wheels because that's what we clearly can see (which are hideous btw). Look at the side windows, that's looking nothing like the camo car.
There is clearly a panel separating the side windows when you look at the camo car. Look at it, right behind the drivers and pass window there is a large panel separating the windows.
There is clearly a panel separating the side windows when you look at the camo car. Look at it, right behind the drivers and pass window there is a large panel separating the windows.
#70
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
The only thing accurate with these pics is the wheels because that's what we clearly can see (which are hideous btw). Look at the side windows, that's looking nothing like the camo car.
There is clearly a panel separating the side windows when you look at the camo car. Look at it, right behind the drivers and pass window there is a large panel separating the windows.
There is clearly a panel separating the side windows when you look at the camo car. Look at it, right behind the drivers and pass window there is a large panel separating the windows.
Also according to sources, the rear spoiler and nose are reminiscent of the current ZR1 which is why they are depicted as shown. Their final configuration may vary.
Last edited by firstvettesoon; 04-19-2018 at 03:34 PM.
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PCK1221 (04-30-2018)
#74
Racer
Cool!
I was hating on the whole rear engine thing, but this is really cool, I hope it looks like this, I'll be a convert.
#75
Safety Car
Many of us have been asked with our C7’s, “is that a Ferrari?
Now we will additionally get, “is that a McLaren,” “what kind of European car is that,” and/or similar. Of course we get these questions from not car people, but they are coming many more times in the future.
Now we will additionally get, “is that a McLaren,” “what kind of European car is that,” and/or similar. Of course we get these questions from not car people, but they are coming many more times in the future.
Last edited by elegant; 04-19-2018 at 09:58 PM.
#77
Race Director
So based on your comparison above, doesn't it look to you that the one we've actually seen on the street (below) has a greenhouse that looks more like the C7 than the latest render? We've also seen side views that show the A-pillar is pretty straight (like the C7) and the side glass looks to be about the same height as the C7 as well.
I hate to sound like a broken record but there are dozens of clear shots of the C8 canopy to crib from!!!
I hate to sound like a broken record but there are dozens of clear shots of the C8 canopy to crib from!!!
Last edited by Rapid Fred; 04-19-2018 at 11:46 PM.
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JerriVette (04-20-2018)
#78
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The renderings are fabulous as I'm sure the final production vehicle will be.
I do happen to think a new rendering adjusting the windshield rake and slightly raising the roofline slightly would be more accurate as well.
There is not much but the windshield rake is slightly exaggerated in the sketches which always happens in sketches of all vehicles...it's just a few degrees and it's as atomic Fred mentions based off the spy shots we ve seen..
The windshield rake angle more closely follows the previous c7 gen corvette and from a drivers standpoint it's actually preferred...
Those super raked windshields like in the fourth gen f body was kind of awkward to drive for the first few miles...
Nothing a driver couldn't get used to but it was awkward....same for the first generation of GM minivans....the trans port etc...
Stylistically though those fast raked windshields look fabulous.....
I believe the same angle as the c7 would be a nice compromise
I do happen to think a new rendering adjusting the windshield rake and slightly raising the roofline slightly would be more accurate as well.
There is not much but the windshield rake is slightly exaggerated in the sketches which always happens in sketches of all vehicles...it's just a few degrees and it's as atomic Fred mentions based off the spy shots we ve seen..
The windshield rake angle more closely follows the previous c7 gen corvette and from a drivers standpoint it's actually preferred...
Those super raked windshields like in the fourth gen f body was kind of awkward to drive for the first few miles...
Nothing a driver couldn't get used to but it was awkward....same for the first generation of GM minivans....the trans port etc...
Stylistically though those fast raked windshields look fabulous.....
I believe the same angle as the c7 would be a nice compromise
#79
The renderings are fabulous as I'm sure the final production vehicle will be.
I do happen to think a new rendering adjusting the windshield rake and slightly raising the roofline slightly would be more accurate as well.
There is not much but the windshield rake is slightly exaggerated in the sketches which always happens in sketches of all vehicles...it's just a few degrees and it's as atomic Fred mentions based off the spy shots we ve seen..
The windshield rake angle more closely follows the previous c7 gen corvette and from a drivers standpoint it's actually preferred...
Those super raked windshields like in the fourth gen f body was kind of awkward to drive for the first few miles...
Nothing a driver couldn't get used to but it was awkward....same for the first generation of GM minivans....the trans port etc...
Stylistically though those fast raked windshields look fabulous.....
I believe the same angle as the c7 would be a nice compromise
I do happen to think a new rendering adjusting the windshield rake and slightly raising the roofline slightly would be more accurate as well.
There is not much but the windshield rake is slightly exaggerated in the sketches which always happens in sketches of all vehicles...it's just a few degrees and it's as atomic Fred mentions based off the spy shots we ve seen..
The windshield rake angle more closely follows the previous c7 gen corvette and from a drivers standpoint it's actually preferred...
Those super raked windshields like in the fourth gen f body was kind of awkward to drive for the first few miles...
Nothing a driver couldn't get used to but it was awkward....same for the first generation of GM minivans....the trans port etc...
Stylistically though those fast raked windshields look fabulous.....
I believe the same angle as the c7 would be a nice compromise
Last edited by Timz16; 04-20-2018 at 07:44 AM. Reason: correction
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JerriVette (04-20-2018)
#80
Race Director
I respectfully disagree. If you increase the rake/apparent size of the greenhouse/windshield, the front hood height will lower, which does seem more consistent with the camo photos at least to me. But I understand fvs has limitations on what he can do with the C&D derived basis for this render.
It's just kind when I look at the real spy shots the windshield looks more production c7 like in appearance...which isn't a bad thing either...
I wonder if for the first time in several decades if ever will GM make the A pillar body colored..as depicted in these amazing sketches..
Somehow GM tends to find small ways to cut costs with black plastic covered A pillars for that floating roof look that translates well when the targa roof is removed for open air motoring...
I'd like to know if anyone who has seen the actual vehicle can offer their insight to our fabulous forum sketch artists...
Give a black A pillar design a shot for us to preview...
And again there is no way I am saying anything but thank you to our forum artists because their work has been amazing