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Old 05-19-2018, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by vettedna

thanks, this is how i improve my language skills. i am a fast learner though. please (if it is not too much to ask) keep correcting my mistakes. already learned some stuff just by reading the forum..
what i still don't get there are some words - buttresses? what exactly do you mean by those? i figured that out that it has to do something with the back of the car, but still
The angled pieces that come back from the B pillars. Without them it would look like a pickup truck. Well, not exactly.
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Originally Posted by vettedna

thanks, this is how i improve my language skills. i am a fast learner though. please (if it is not too much to ask) keep correcting my mistakes. already learned some stuff just by reading the forum..
what i still don't get there are some words - buttresses? what exactly do you mean by those? i figured that out that it has to do something with the back of the car, but still


A structural component.
Old 05-19-2018, 08:45 AM
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We finally get some quality exhaust sounds!

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Old 05-19-2018, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Bikerjulio
The angled pieces that come back from the B pillars. Without them it would look like a pickup truck. Well, not exactly.
thank you very much for clarifying this.
Old 05-19-2018, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by ZL-1
Yes, it would look awkward if the B pillar was visible and the cut line didn't line up with it. But once the vinyl camo is removed the B pillar will likely be hidden by a tinted glass continuation of the door glass as on the C7. Then the "shorter" lift-off panel won't look so wrong - plus it will be small and light, easy to stow.
Not the first time GM has done exactly this to the top/B pillar joint.

Recall the 1970s-era Trans Am T-tops. Ugly then, still ugly now.






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Old 05-19-2018, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by DanSavage
Not the first time GM has done exactly this to the top/B pillar joint.

Recall the 1970s-era Trans Am T-tops. Ugly then, still ugly now.





Yes those Hurst Hatches were poorly styled. But they proved to be so popular that GM designed a Fisher version that fit flush and was a continuation of the B pillar. Both versions were available for a while.

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Originally Posted by ZL-1
Yes those Hurst Hatches were poorly styled. But they proved to be so popular that GM designed a Fisher version that fit flush and was a continuation of the B pillar. Both versions were available for a while.
I'd seen both, but never knew the basic story behind them. Thanks.

Yes, the Fisher is what I'd expect. I'm sure the GM execs were gritting their teeth over its ugliness, but had no choice.
Old 05-19-2018, 01:24 PM
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Did everyone notice the rapid transmission gear changes? This is without a doubt a 10 speed auto, so exciting!!!
Old 05-19-2018, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by badass1g
Did everyone notice the rapid transmission gear changes? This is without a doubt a 10 speed auto, so exciting!!!
Not sure we know the number of speeds, but likelihood of it being a DCT seems pretty high from the sound of those shists...
Old 05-19-2018, 01:56 PM
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Is there any way to "fake" a line such as for a roof separation?
Old 05-19-2018, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by badass1g
Did everyone notice the rapid transmission gear changes? This is without a doubt a 10 speed auto, so exciting!!!
It is without doubt a DCT transmission in auto mode.
Old 05-19-2018, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by AORoads
Is there any way to "fake" a line such as for a roof separation?
Yes. The Aria FXE showcar does it perfectly.

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Old 05-19-2018, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by skank
That is clearly a folding hardtop convertible. The horizontal gap line is a dead giveaway.
I think your are really on to something, I hope!
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Originally Posted by 570RadRacing
Looks fairly similar to the folding hard top on the F458/488 to me. I hope it is because I'd love a hardtop convertible.


So with that I had to take a closer look, and........

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Old 05-19-2018, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by vettedna

thanks, this is how i improve my language skills. i am a fast learner though. please (if it is not too much to ask) keep correcting my mistakes. already learned some stuff just by reading the forum..
what i still don't get there are some words - buttresses? what exactly do you mean by those? i figured that out that it has to do something with the back of the car, but still
The word is an architectural term, nominally used to describe reinforcing elements on walls of castles or buildings. In sports cars it describes the design feature that runs from the top rear deck forward up to the "b" pillar at the top of the roof.

Good luck with English. It's a crazy, inconsistent language.
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Good explanation IronV; excellent supporting picture!
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Good explanation IronV; excellent supporting picture!
My pleasure!

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Old 05-19-2018, 06:58 PM
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Following this thread - now I wonder if GM isn't playing everyone, and doesn't actually have a 458 under that camouflage that they are driving around to throw everyone off!
Old 05-20-2018, 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by IronV
The word is an architectural term, nominally used to describe reinforcing elements on walls of castles or buildings. In sports cars it describes the design feature that runs from the top rear deck forward up to the "b" pillar at the top of the roof.

Good luck with English. It's a crazy, inconsistent language.
Thanks, it takes a lot of luck, since there is absolutely no one around me who is American and I can talk to. But it is my favorite foreign language.

Regarding the thread now I understand what you meant by the buttresses and I totally agree. On these pictures we can clearly see the 458 Spider-like design behind the B-pillar. The more details we get to know, the more obvious it gets that this car is absolutely stunning, in its simplicity close to perfection. I keep wondering if this is a brand-new or the almost locked design from pre-2009.


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