C8 Testbed postred to Sloppy Mechanics
#81
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electrical gremlins or trans/eng mechical problems ,,and the engineers didn't want to drag it up on a flatbed
has anybody found the GM garage in the fort myers/naples area?,
seems to be a lot of prototype cars in that area,4-5 zr1's before they came out
has anybody found the GM garage in the fort myers/naples area?,
seems to be a lot of prototype cars in that area,4-5 zr1's before they came out
#82
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GM contracted with Roush to fix some of the earliest C7’s with problems in September, 2013, and most recently this past year for its drivers to assist in public roads testing of the ZR1. Roush has at least one testing facility in Florida, located at 3538 Plover Ave, Naples. Per their web site:
We do not have confirmation that Roush is currently involved in ME testing, but it could well be.
Originally Posted by Roush’s
On Road Vehicle Testing: Rousch’s On-Road-Vehicle-Testing group is staffed by ASE certified technicians and strategically located in areas with extreme climate.
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#83
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I thought they were testing the ZR1 and the ME in Florida, as that is were most of them will be sold....to 84 year old gray haired gents and their blue haired wives.
#84
No mid-engine layout is more for my demographic. 30-50 year old tech geeks. I am a Senior QA in the Bay Area, CA. Teslas/Mclarens etc are all the rage. Corvette will fit in nicely
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We all hope the ME incredibly takes off with that target demographic group, for the future of Corvettes is attracting many more young people. It would be outstanding if in 2021, GM shares something like “2020 ME sales’ demographic showed an average ME buyer being 45 years of age.”
That would be extra outstanding to mathematically counteract that the 2020 mid engine also is appealing to a lot of traditional, retired, long term Corvette owners. As one tiny example, a group of four of us who periodically get together and take our C7’s on spirited country corner carving drives, all 70+, retired, living in the Pacific Northwest, are excited about our getting our ME’s next year.
That would be extra outstanding to mathematically counteract that the 2020 mid engine also is appealing to a lot of traditional, retired, long term Corvette owners. As one tiny example, a group of four of us who periodically get together and take our C7’s on spirited country corner carving drives, all 70+, retired, living in the Pacific Northwest, are excited about our getting our ME’s next year.
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#88
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That's true, I don't know for sure.
But I did find the Tesla roadside assistance documents, indicating that it should ONLY be towed on a flatbed, and I assume it's the same technology. http://assets.teslastatic.com/roadsi...ce_extract.pdf
But I did find the Tesla roadside assistance documents, indicating that it should ONLY be towed on a flatbed, and I assume it's the same technology. http://assets.teslastatic.com/roadsi...ce_extract.pdf
Source: https://agero.quickbase.com/up/bgm63...0Tipsheets.pdf
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You can clearly see where the frunk will be. At the very front just behind the bumper beam and between the front frame horns and in font of the crossmember.
There is also another CAD drawing that actually shows the carso bin and it's weather stripping, but I'll leave it up to you to find it. It's on this forum.
I saw this CAD drawing long before I saw the photo with the front hood raised.
Now, since this is the only real information we have on the C8 that shows the front of the car's space frame, etc, where does the CAD drawing indicate that the battery is indeed in front.
Oh, and my C6 Z06 has the battery in the rear, but it also has a jumper connection at the fuse box under the {front}hood, to connect jumper cables to start the car in case of a dead battery. Maybe the mid engine Corvette has the same ability to jump the car from under the front hood, even if the battery is in the rear of the car.
We can either have a poll to answer our questions about where the battery is located or we can wait until the car is released and know for sure.
Second, I doubt what we are seeing in that incomplete, undetailed CAD above is any proof leading to a speculation of a front opening hood. Thus credit goes to this thread for identifying it as I found no earlier CF posts of anyone suggesting a front opening hood. Again, links please.
1) There are three ‘frame Horns’ (Why 3?) in that picture with all attached to the lower Windshield assembly that would probably interfere with the windshield wiper assembly if it is the same or similar as with the C7. The center wiper mounting point is actually roughly drawn in that CAD too suggesting being similar to the C7.
2) Mounting the rear hood brackets to far ends of the hood would be better balanced, atypical of most FE and ME, and not needing additional support to a rather thin bar when substantial structure like the C7 is probably there.
3) There should be no need for an extensive firewall structure in the front without and motor and the gas tanks in the back. Could those 3 tabs have another purpose. Hard to speculate but one possibility is they are rear anchor points for a light weight, dry tub assembly for the frunk. Or, they are not really currently there in newer CADS.
4) Commonality of parts goes a long way keeping costs down and KISS is hopefully followed when possible.
Now for some pictures for interpretation
Finally, my next post is of another leaked C8 CAD that may conflict with the above CAD so that this threads pictures appear to be a better disclosure of the hood opening issue.
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A friend text me photos of it this morning in traffic. It was (is) in SW Florida. After I told him that it got towed he looked it up and saw that it was a local towing company and he knew the owner. Owner told him it was here for a few weeks for hot weather testing and then to Germany for Autobahn testing.
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This C8 leaked CAD has a white part that appears very similar to the C7’s rear opening hood security latch that upon a frontal accident is engaged when the hood is forced backwards toward the windshield. I think other corvette generations have a similar design. This to help keep the hood from contacting the windshield and as an anchor point to aid the hood to crumble?
My point is, this CAD is in contrast to the other CAD and could lead to contrary interpretations. Bottom line, this thread is a better possible indicator of a front opening hood.
My point is, this CAD is in contrast to the other CAD and could lead to contrary interpretations. Bottom line, this thread is a better possible indicator of a front opening hood.
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A friend text me photos of it this morning in traffic. It was (is) in SW Florida. After I told him that it got towed he looked it up and saw that it was a local towing company and he knew the owner. Owner told him it was here for a few weeks for hot weather testing and then to Germany for Autobahn testing.
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A friend text me photos of it this morning in traffic. It was (is) in SW Florida. After I told him that it got towed he looked it up and saw that it was a local towing company and he knew the owner. Owner told him it was here for a few weeks for hot weather testing and then to Germany for Autobahn testing.
There's another place in Germany that might be more likely.
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Octoberfest is still four months away.
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A friend text me photos of it this morning in traffic. It was (is) in SW Florida. After I told him that it got towed he looked it up and saw that it was a local towing company and he knew the owner. Owner told him it was here for a few weeks for hot weather testing and then to Germany for Autobahn testing.
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And now we have these screen shots I made from the new C8 video in the Florida Wild, thanks to a CF Thread started by Keith@VetteFinders and posted on CorvetteBlogger.:thumbs
Looks to me like the windshield and wiper assemblies were carried over from the C7, probably adjusted somewhat for the ME windshield rake angle. Others pointed out evidence the overall height of the ME is much the same as our C7s. I would be surprised the suspected front opening hood does not have strut operated hinges outbound on the hood sides.
Looks to me like the windshield and wiper assemblies were carried over from the C7, probably adjusted somewhat for the ME windshield rake angle. Others pointed out evidence the overall height of the ME is much the same as our C7s. I would be surprised the suspected front opening hood does not have strut operated hinges outbound on the hood sides.
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So is the Excursion a diesel? What year? I wonder how many people took pictures of the Vette versus actually got uploaded on the ne where they are seen.
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This C8 leaked CAD has a white part that appears very similar to the C7’s rear opening hood security latch that upon a frontal accident is engaged when the hood is forced backwards toward the windshield. I think other corvette generations have a similar design. This to help keep the hood from contacting the windshield and as an anchor point to aid the hood to crumble?
My point is, this CAD is in contrast to the other CAD and could lead to contrary interpretations. Bottom line, this thread is a better possible indicator of a front opening hood.
My point is, this CAD is in contrast to the other CAD and could lead to contrary interpretations. Bottom line, this thread is a better possible indicator of a front opening hood.
As far as the battery, that looks like a battery tray right behind the storage area in the CAD.
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