Couple of questions
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Couple of questions
First, I notice in every "spy" photo or video of the ME, it has steel brake rotors and not CC brakes? I guess I assumed two things. One would be they would need to test the car as it's going to be sold and the other is they would be standard on such a high end car.
The other question is about where they test these cars. Anyone know the specifics of why they pick certain places? I imagine they need a cross section of real driving conditions i.e. mountains, desert, hot/humid etc. Just wondering if there is specific areas, time frames, mileage etc.
Yes, I know on the second question Google is my friend, but the information you get is all over the place and I'm betting someone here has accurate information.
The other question is about where they test these cars. Anyone know the specifics of why they pick certain places? I imagine they need a cross section of real driving conditions i.e. mountains, desert, hot/humid etc. Just wondering if there is specific areas, time frames, mileage etc.
Yes, I know on the second question Google is my friend, but the information you get is all over the place and I'm betting someone here has accurate information.
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Cars we're seeing are the base/entry models. I don't expect to see CC brakes until they release the higher HP variants.
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You only see steel rotors because currently the base model is being developed, if you look at it historically, the higher power models get developed after the base model is released.
they test at extremes, in the summer they test in desert (Arizona, Nevada, California) in the winter they test far north in Canada, altitude tests are obviously in the highest locations in Colorado, usually also cold. Basically since they test extremes it’s locations where u don’t want to be, at times where those locations are unpleasant.
they test at extremes, in the summer they test in desert (Arizona, Nevada, California) in the winter they test far north in Canada, altitude tests are obviously in the highest locations in Colorado, usually also cold. Basically since they test extremes it’s locations where u don’t want to be, at times where those locations are unpleasant.
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They also test in Florida, as they are right now, for high air density/humidity with moderately high heat. They go to Germany for top speed testing on a huge banked track, and for running the Nurburgring.
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CC brakes are only needed when driving the car at 10/10ths or hotter.
Right now, they are just tootling around trying to put enough milage on the car for various "less than ideal" design parameters to make themselves known.
Right now, they are just tootling around trying to put enough milage on the car for various "less than ideal" design parameters to make themselves known.
#7
Are CC brakes suitable for road use at all? Road isn't going to get them up to temperature with repeated heavy use like a track will. Until then they could be worse.
Even Shmee, who can obviously afford them, went with the stock brakes on his Porsche GT3 RS.
Even Shmee, who can obviously afford them, went with the stock brakes on his Porsche GT3 RS.
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Originally Posted by Bigjsn250
First, I notice in every "spy" photo or video of the ME, it has steel brake rotors and not CC brakes? I guess I assumed two things. One would be they would need to test the car as it's going to be sold and the other is they would be standard on such a high end car.
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But for a street driver, or for somebody who doesn't mind the increased consumable cost for track work, they are fabulous.
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CC brakes, or CCBs, are great on the street. Low dust, and pretty much indestructible (careful changing wheels, tho, as the rotors can be chipped). If you don't track the car they'll last the life of the vehicle. Folks who heavily track their cars will often replace the CCBs with iron rotors. They do that because rotors and pads are "consumables" on track, and iron rotors and pads are a hell of a lot less expensive to be changing out on a frequent basis than CCBs and their pads.
But for a street driver, or for somebody who doesn't mind the increased consumable cost for track work, they are fabulous.
But for a street driver, or for somebody who doesn't mind the increased consumable cost for track work, they are fabulous.
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Then again, you'll hear a handful of iron brake owners speak of noise as well.
Noise on either type is of such a low occurrence, it's a non-issue for either one IMO.
To the OP's questions - I think we'll see CCBs on the ME, but probably the later, higher HP variants.
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Thanks OnPoint, for being on point.
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