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Old 06-14-2018, 03:00 PM
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First, I notice in every "spy" photo or video of the ME, it has steel brake rotors and not CC brakes? I guess I assumed two things. One would be they would need to test the car as it's going to be sold and the other is they would be standard on such a high end car.

The other question is about where they test these cars. Anyone know the specifics of why they pick certain places? I imagine they need a cross section of real driving conditions i.e. mountains, desert, hot/humid etc. Just wondering if there is specific areas, time frames, mileage etc.

Yes, I know on the second question Google is my friend, but the information you get is all over the place and I'm betting someone here has accurate information.
Old 06-14-2018, 03:17 PM
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Cars we're seeing are the base/entry models. I don't expect to see CC brakes until they release the higher HP variants.
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You only see steel rotors because currently the base model is being developed, if you look at it historically, the higher power models get developed after the base model is released.

they test at extremes, in the summer they test in desert (Arizona, Nevada, California) in the winter they test far north in Canada, altitude tests are obviously in the highest locations in Colorado, usually also cold. Basically since they test extremes it’s locations where u don’t want to be, at times where those locations are unpleasant.
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They also test in Florida, as they are right now, for high air density/humidity with moderately high heat. They go to Germany for top speed testing on a huge banked track, and for running the Nurburgring.
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you are seriously underestimating the capabilities of blanks and good pads.
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CC brakes are only needed when driving the car at 10/10ths or hotter.

Right now, they are just tootling around trying to put enough milage on the car for various "less than ideal" design parameters to make themselves known.
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Are CC brakes suitable for road use at all? Road isn't going to get them up to temperature with repeated heavy use like a track will. Until then they could be worse.

Even Shmee, who can obviously afford them, went with the stock brakes on his Porsche GT3 RS.
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Originally Posted by Bigjsn250
First, I notice in every "spy" photo or video of the ME, it has steel brake rotors and not CC brakes? I guess I assumed two things. One would be they would need to test the car as it's going to be sold and the other is they would be standard on such a high end car.
Some believe this will be a high end supercar, but most likely it is the next gen Corvette and will be affordable. If it is in fact the next gen Corvette the base will likely have the brakes seem and the zr1 upper model will get the CC rotors.

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Originally Posted by Bikerjulio
Are CC brakes suitable for road use at all? Road isn't going to get them up to temperature with repeated heavy use like a track will. Until then they could be worse.

Even Shmee, who can obviously afford them, went with the stock brakes on his Porsche GT3 RS.
CC brakes, or CCBs, are great on the street. Low dust, and pretty much indestructible (careful changing wheels, tho, as the rotors can be chipped). If you don't track the car they'll last the life of the vehicle. Folks who heavily track their cars will often replace the CCBs with iron rotors. They do that because rotors and pads are "consumables" on track, and iron rotors and pads are a hell of a lot less expensive to be changing out on a frequent basis than CCBs and their pads.

But for a street driver, or for somebody who doesn't mind the increased consumable cost for track work, they are fabulous.
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Originally Posted by OnPoint
CC brakes, or CCBs, are great on the street. Low dust, and pretty much indestructible (careful changing wheels, tho, as the rotors can be chipped). If you don't track the car they'll last the life of the vehicle. Folks who heavily track their cars will often replace the CCBs with iron rotors. They do that because rotors and pads are "consumables" on track, and iron rotors and pads are a hell of a lot less expensive to be changing out on a frequent basis than CCBs and their pads.

But for a street driver, or for somebody who doesn't mind the increased consumable cost for track work, they are fabulous.
Had carbon ceramic pads on my C6 and they squealed a bit, but tolerable. As I recall, there was even something in the owners' manual warning about that.
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Had carbon ceramic pads on my C6 and they squealed a bit, but tolerable. As I recall, there was even something in the owners' manual warning about that.
Running carbon ceramic pads on iron rotors is a different animal than the CCBs on C6 ZR1s, C7 Z07s and C7 ZR1s. Those are entirely different brake set-ups. I've got a C6 ZR1 with the CCBs. They've never made a peep. Most of them don't. You do hear about a few that do. Of those, a proper burnishing usually clears it up.

Then again, you'll hear a handful of iron brake owners speak of noise as well.

Noise on either type is of such a low occurrence, it's a non-issue for either one IMO.

To the OP's questions - I think we'll see CCBs on the ME, but probably the later, higher HP variants.
Old 06-17-2018, 05:40 PM
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Seeing the test mules driving around without CCBs, makes sense, anyway, because you're likely not even going to see a Grand Sport, or a Z06-ZR1, variant, the first model year, anyway.
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Thanks OnPoint, for being on point.

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