C8 price will be around $100,000
#121
Thank you,
I found it very funny as well...it took me 5 minutes just to send my reply because I was cracked up ,with my head on the breakfast table.
Anybody have any suggestions on a good candidate to replace the chief engineer ????
If team corvette were to take such a change in direction it would require a new type of individual...
David Hogg..
#123
Melting Slicks
I agree to a certain extent, however, retail value wise, its still a GM. Lamborghini, and Ferrari, etc, dont sell rental cars to fleet. The 2009 ZR1 can be had, now, for sub $60K. The 2004 Gallardos, are still over $70K. Porsche is seeing a huge uptick in value, in their cars. If I have a chance to get something that may go up in value, Ill be giving that an equal eye.
Just because GM sells to fleets doesn't mean they cannot put out a car in that class and price range. See Ford for a prime example. The question is, will they? As many have said, as nice as the C7's interior upgrade is over the previous gen cars, it still needs some more work to reach the level of the competition. But, I think that same statement applies to the Ford GT which I don't think is having a problem with sales (although I may be wrong).
As much as I would love the ME to be $65k starting, something tells me that will be far below it's actual starting price. Now, if they put out something that is truly capable of competing at the price point, I will definitely give the car a chance.
#124
Melting Slicks
I think Bill is on the mark with his observation, and that a better comparison as far as what can be done for the money would be a Porsche Cayman, if high profit Porsche can offer a base Cayman for 56k and a CaymanS for 69k there is no reason to believe that a mid engine Corvette could not fall in that range for the base car with a lt1 before you start checking boxes of course.
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#129
Race Director
Base msrp to be in the sixties...add options at your own peril...and desires.
with a multitude of options and various models msrp will reach 100 plus and then after the new model excitement recedes some light discounting will begin...
as it does with every new car in the marketplace..
with a multitude of options and various models msrp will reach 100 plus and then after the new model excitement recedes some light discounting will begin...
as it does with every new car in the marketplace..
#130
Team Owner
You could have repeated that argument each year for the past 65 years....but it never happened.
The Corvette has been sold around the globe, but that only accounts for around 10% of it's sales. Subtract Canada, from that 10% and it's "around the globe" sales is dismal.
The Corvette has been sold around the globe, but that only accounts for around 10% of it's sales. Subtract Canada, from that 10% and it's "around the globe" sales is dismal.
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#132
Base msrp to be in the sixties...add options at your own peril...and desires.
with a multitude of options and various models msrp will reach 100 plus and then after the new model excitement recedes some light discounting will begin...
as it does with every new car in the marketplace..
with a multitude of options and various models msrp will reach 100 plus and then after the new model excitement recedes some light discounting will begin...
as it does with every new car in the marketplace..
If this ME is actually the C8, it can't take a quantum leap in price others are predicting.
#133
Melting Slicks
The base price of the 2013 C6 Corvette was $49,600 + $975.00 DFC = $50,575.00. The current base price for the 2019 Stingray is $55,495.00 + $1,095.00 DFC = $56,590.00. We still have two or three years left on the C7 FE generation so theoretically the base price of the barebones Stingray could end up at 58k - 60k. It's more accurate to estimate the base price of the incoming C8 FE from the last year base of the C7. I've always thought that the 2022 C8 FE base Stingray would start around 65K if you look at the prior generation price increases. I am starting the ME base model Zora at around 80K - 90K and K.I.T.T.'s logical pricing analysis with the Base ME starting at 80K and optioning up to 130K looks to be matching my estimates as well. The Mid- level ME model Zora would then base at 100k-110k and option up to 150K. The top ME model Zora would therefore base at 120K-130K and option up to 170K-180K. I and others have spent an inordinate amount of time studying Zerv's leaked CAD views and have gleaned the info from these into the list thread. Some of these new component parts are sourced from the German Company ZF. They are not inexpensive and will certainly elevate the line item budget of the parts and systems list. Some on this forum are in a state of denial and think that this new beautiful and state of the art halo model Zora will match the price of the bare bones c7 base model. That is a clueless and fantasized wish. This car has already been identified as a Supercar during the Las Vegas Dealers convention reveal photos. Logic will always prevail and some of you will be disappointed in not being able to afford this car but GM is doing this car to expand the Corvette demographic not exchange it. Read the list thread and prepare yourselves for reality !
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-corvette.html
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-corvette.html
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#134
Pro
Skank, this is a very good estimation (based on current facts) of what is to come. Anyone that believes this is excessive in suggestion might want to ponder exactly the opposite: is it too conservative? Those that are fond of front engine vehicles will inevitably have an opportunity to buy one when the modified C8 FE likely debuts in a few years and I would guess it will also have a manual transmission option in that car as well. This is a great analysis and a credible one!
#135
$170k is not Corvette (or GM) territory...an entirely DIFFERENT demographic would be needed.
IOW, poaching Porsche's high-end customers (good luck with that).
At that price, you're getting close to the price of some exotics.
I'm sorry, but I can't swallow it...no way, no how.
IOW, poaching Porsche's high-end customers (good luck with that).
At that price, you're getting close to the price of some exotics.
I'm sorry, but I can't swallow it...no way, no how.
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Shank, the latest for a Base C7 1LT with Auto. And what they are sold for today by a big box store. My guess that for a like Base ME Coupe offered by GM will be kept, initially, under ~$70K. But with allocation high optioned orders will be gobbled up by Dealers, so good luck getting one as you have to go through them.
#137
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$170k is not Corvette (or GM) territory...an entirely DIFFERENT demographic would be needed.
IOW, poaching Porsche's high-end customers (good luck with that).
At that price, you're getting close to the price of some exotics.
I'm sorry, but I can't swallow it...no way, no how.
IOW, poaching Porsche's high-end customers (good luck with that).
At that price, you're getting close to the price of some exotics.
I'm sorry, but I can't swallow it...no way, no how.
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#138
You appear to be stuck in a 1960's time warp thinking that Corvette is a working man's sports car. It was and, theoretically, still is. However, you also appear to be incapable of considering the natural progression of corporate Chevrolet and it's Corvette Division. That of feeling secure in their demographic position at present and ambitious for an expansion of it to what appears to be a much higher level of not only execution but patronage. Why is it so hard to grasp that the Mid Engine auto is not a substitute but an addition to the offerings? Why can't you (and other people) see that Corvette has an aim to create the next level of vehicle in the scope of Corvettes? They certainly will take some of the 33,000 buyers from present statistics but they will add more as well. I continue to think that they are not remotely hoping to build more then a few thousand of the ME model. This is way possible!
really good points from both of you... its a curious situation... taking away the "looks" of a ZL1 camaro...(which many, though not all dislike).... GM may be wanting that to be the 40k cars a year version... and let new tech drive the ME up in price.... looking at the new NSX...(about 140k)... it is awd (albeit electric motor fronts)...and its not selling well at all... beautiful car...then at 200k there are options that rock and are accepted as world beaters... it may have to be just RWD to keep price under 100k...and they just do their best with that...and co developing motors w caddy...
#139
Melting Slicks
$170k is not Corvette (or GM) territory...an entirely DIFFERENT demographic would be needed.
IOW, poaching Porsche's high-end customers (good luck with that).
At that price, you're getting close to the price of some exotics.
I'm sorry, but I can't swallow it...no way, no how.
IOW, poaching Porsche's high-end customers (good luck with that).
At that price, you're getting close to the price of some exotics.
I'm sorry, but I can't swallow it...no way, no how.
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